Mailist to discuss all issues regarding the Digitech GSP-2101 Guitar FX Processor

It should still have sound at the main outputs and headphone jack if an instrument is plugged into the front.

On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 9:31 AM Ken Rowe bardkin@gmail.com [gsp-2101] <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I know this is obvious but I have to ask-

#1 the 2101 is only a preamp. it doesn't provide output power. you have to use either a power amp or a pa system that provides power. Do you have one of these setups to go with it?

#2 there are input and output on the right front. you've messed with these?

#3 do you get any sound at all? if you change the program do you here a change in sound at the speaker?

I would need these answered before I could continue.

On 3/30/2019 10:22 AM, Scott Webb webbsguitars@yahoo.com [gsp-2101] wrote:

Hi my first post. I have purchased a gsp 2101 and it has sound at the effects send but none at the outputs or headphone jack. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott

-- 
Ken Rowe
Longmont

Thanks Nick i will try it

On Mar 30, 2019 2:40 PM, "Nick Williams nickwilliams@me.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I may be wrong but if you have a jack in the fx send and nothing going back into the returns, that might give you the symptoms you have. Try changing the external fx loop setting in the algorithm, 5 right arrow presses should get you there.

On 30 Mar 2019, at 16:22, "Scott Webb webbsguitars@yahoo.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi my first post. I have purchased a gsp 2101 and it has sound at the effects send but none at the outputs or headphone jack. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott

Pots do get dirty, but not enough to completely block out the signal in any position- that would be more than dirt. those pots can rub a gap between the wiper and the seat causing noise and signal loss, but a dirty pot is a bit different.. And, any half way decent tech could replace them for pretty cheap.

As far as no "sound" on the outputs-

That is strange. the 2101 doesn't have a power section like a regular amplifier does. After signal goes through the tube(s) it goes right into digital processing and signal mixing. it's all line out voltage . That is why you need a powe4r amp or powered PA to plug it into and get sound.

So there are only a few possibilities if everything is hooked up correctly. in almost all cases, if there were something physically wrong with the unit then you would get an error on the display screen. bad tubes wont necessarily generate an error nor will pots or jacks.

#1 Do you have the foot controller? the expression pedal could be set as a volume control or the previous owner could have had it set to work with another expression pedal. Mine is set this way, where I have a cry baby pedal, then use my foot control pedal for volume. Try resetting the unit to factory settings.

#2 one or both tubes are shot.

Have you checked the tubes? You should pull them and put them on a tube tester or replace them- they are only $12.00 a piece at thetubestore.com.

#3 bad jacks or cables

This is the number one time consumer for troubleshooting. Again a new cable or a half way decent tech can resolve this.

#4 one or more of the DSP effects are bad.

Its going to cost a lot. more than the unit is worth. It would be better to buy another one or buy a similar and newer type unit. In looking at the schematics, the signal enters through an op-amp controlled channel switching circuit, then to the compressor/limiter circuitry and then to the tubes. Once a signal comes out of the tubes it is all digital effects from there on out. the signal loss could be happening ANYWHERE from the input jack on. it could take as much as 3 or 3 hours to test just to know what exactly is wrong, and then however much time to fix it plus the parts.

really there is nothing more to it than that. There are settings in the limiter and the distortion settings that could make it go quiet, but not 100% loss of signal.

I think, one thing you could do is to put a voltage meter to each of the output jacks. Just get a guitar cable and cut it in half. plug it in and hook the mutimeter leads to the cable and try to get a reading. at least then you would know if there is signal.

On 3/30/2019 4:07 PM, mk_nodelocked@yahoo.com [gsp-2101] wrote:

I have a similar issue with a backup 2101 unit. I don't get sound out of head phones or rear jacks unless I turn off the pre amp section. The outputs work with pre amp for a few seconds right after turning on the unit cold. Followed by crackling noise and no audio output at all after that. The unit works fine as a multi-efx box without distortion. See if you get sound after turning off the pre amp section in your patches. The pre amp section could be the culprit here.

/mk

---In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, <webbsguitars@...> wrote :

Twas not the loop?i heard a crackling and cutting out right before it stopped.could it be the output section.im flying blind here

On Mar 30, 2019 2:46 PM, Scott Webb <webbsguitars@...> wrote:

Thanks Nick i will try it

On Mar 30, 2019 2:40 PM, "Nick Williams nickwilliams@me.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I may be wrong but if you have a jack in the fx send and nothing going back into the returns, that might give you the symptoms you have. Try changing the external fx loop setting in the algorithm, 5 right arrow presses should get you there.

On 30 Mar 2019, at 16:22, "Scott Webb webbsguitars@yahoo.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi my first post. I have purchased a gsp 2101 and it has sound at the effects send but none at the outputs or headphone jack. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott

-- 
Ken Rowe
Longmont

Pots do get dirty, but not enough to completely block out the signal in any position- that would be more than dirt. those pots can rub a gap between the wiper and the seat causing noise and signal loss, but a dirty pot is a bit different.. And, any half way decent tech could replace them for pretty cheap.

As far as no "sound" on the outputs-

That is strange. the 2101 doesn't have a power section like a regular amplifier does. After signal goes through the tube(s) it goes right into digital processing and signal mixing. it's all line out voltage . That is why you need a powe4r amp or powered PA to plug it into and get sound.

So there are only a few possibilities if everything is hooked up correctly. in almost all cases, if there were something physically wrong with the unit then you would get an error on the display screen. bad tubes wont necessarily generate an error nor will pots or jacks.

#1 Do you have the foot controller? the expression pedal could be set as a volume control or the previous owner could have had it set to work with another expression pedal. Mine is set this way, where I have a cry baby pedal, then use my foot control pedal for volume. Try resetting the unit to factory settings.

#2 one or both tubes are shot.

Have you checked the tubes? You should pull them and put them on a tube tester or replace them- they are only $12.00 a piece at thetubestore.com.

#3 bad jacks or cables

This is the number one time consumer for troubleshooting. Again a new cable or a half way decent tech can resolve this.

#4 one or more of the DSP effects are bad.

Its going to cost a lot. more than the unit is worth. It would be better to buy another one or buy a similar and newer type unit. In looking at the schematics, the signal enters through an op-amp controlled channel switching circuit, then to the compressor/limiter circuitry and then to the tubes. Once a signal comes out of the tubes it is all digital effects from there on out. the signal loss could be happening ANYWHERE from the input jack on. it could take as much as 3 or 3 hours to test just to know what exactly is wrong, and then however much time to fix it plus the parts.

really there is nothing more to it than that. There are settings in the limiter and the distortion settings that could make it go quiet, but not 100% loss of signal.

I think, one thing you could do is to put a voltage meter to each of the output jacks. Just get a guitar cable and cut it in half. plug it in and hook the mutimeter leads to the cable and try to get a reading. at least then you would know if there is signal.

On 3/30/2019 4:07 PM, mk_nodelocked@yahoo.com [gsp-2101] wrote:

I have a similar issue with a backup 2101 unit. I don't get sound out of head phones or rear jacks unless I turn off the pre amp section. The outputs work with pre amp for a few seconds right after turning on the unit cold. Followed by crackling noise and no audio output at all after that. The unit works fine as a multi-efx box without distortion. See if you get sound after turning off the pre amp section in your patches. The pre amp section could be the culprit here.

/mk

---In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, <webbsguitars@...> wrote :

Twas not the loop?i heard a crackling and cutting out right before it stopped.could it be the output section.im flying blind here

On Mar 30, 2019 2:46 PM, Scott Webb <webbsguitars@...> wrote:

Thanks Nick i will try it

On Mar 30, 2019 2:40 PM, "Nick Williams nickwilliams@me.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I may be wrong but if you have a jack in the fx send and nothing going back into the returns, that might give you the symptoms you have. Try changing the external fx loop setting in the algorithm, 5 right arrow presses should get you there.

On 30 Mar 2019, at 16:22, "Scott Webb webbsguitars@yahoo.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi my first post. I have purchased a gsp 2101 and it has sound at the effects send but none at the outputs or headphone jack. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott

-- 
Ken Rowe
Longmont

Pots do get dirty, but not enough to completely block out the signal in any position- that would be more than dirt. those pots can rub a gap between the wiper and the seat causing noise and signal loss, but a dirty pot is a bit different.. And, any half way decent tech could replace them for pretty cheap.

As far as no "sound" on the outputs-

That is strange. the 2101 doesn't have a power section like a regular amplifier does. After signal goes through the tube(s) it goes right into digital processing and signal mixing. it's all line out voltage . That is why you need a powe4r amp or powered PA to plug it into and get sound.

So there are only a few possibilities if everything is hooked up correctly. in almost all cases, if there were something physically wrong with the unit then you would get an error on the display screen. bad tubes wont necessarily generate an error nor will pots or jacks.

#1 Do you have the foot controller? the expression pedal could be set as a volume control or the previous owner could have had it set to work with another expression pedal. Mine is set this way, where I have a cry baby pedal, then use my foot control pedal for volume. Try resetting the unit to factory settings.

#2 one or both tubes are shot.

Have you checked the tubes? You should pull them and put them on a tube tester or replace them- they are only $12.00 a piece at thetubestore.com.

#3 bad jacks or cables

This is the number one time consumer for troubleshooting. Again a new cable or a half way decent tech can resolve this.

#4 one or more of the DSP effects are bad.

Its going to cost a lot. more than the unit is worth. It would be better to buy another one or buy a similar and newer type unit. In looking at the schematics, the signal enters through an op-amp controlled channel switching circuit, then to the compressor/limiter circuitry and then to the tubes. Once a signal comes out of the tubes it is all digital effects from there on out. the signal loss could be happening ANYWHERE from the input jack on. it could take as much as 3 or 3 hours to test just to know what exactly is wrong, and then however much time to fix it plus the parts.

really there is nothing more to it than that. There are settings in the limiter and the distortion settings that could make it go quiet, but not 100% loss of signal.

I think, one thing you could do is to put a voltage meter to each of the output jacks. Just get a guitar cable and cut it in half. plug it in and hook the mutimeter leads to the cable and try to get a reading. at least then you would know if there is signal.

On 3/30/2019 4:07 PM, mk_nodelocked@yahoo.com [gsp-2101] wrote:

I have a similar issue with a backup 2101 unit. I don't get sound out of head phones or rear jacks unless I turn off the pre amp section. The outputs work with pre amp for a few seconds right after turning on the unit cold. Followed by crackling noise and no audio output at all after that. The unit works fine as a multi-efx box without distortion. See if you get sound after turning off the pre amp section in your patches. The pre amp section could be the culprit here.

/mk

---In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, <webbsguitars@...> wrote :

Twas not the loop?i heard a crackling and cutting out right before it stopped.could it be the output section.im flying blind here

On Mar 30, 2019 2:46 PM, Scott Webb <webbsguitars@...> wrote:

Thanks Nick i will try it

On Mar 30, 2019 2:40 PM, "Nick Williams nickwilliams@me.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I may be wrong but if you have a jack in the fx send and nothing going back into the returns, that might give you the symptoms you have. Try changing the external fx loop setting in the algorithm, 5 right arrow presses should get you there.

On 30 Mar 2019, at 16:22, "Scott Webb webbsguitars@yahoo.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi my first post. I have purchased a gsp 2101 and it has sound at the effects send but none at the outputs or headphone jack. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott

-- 
Ken Rowe
Longmont

Ok.probably not the jacks.there are two inputs one in front and back.3 outs left/right and headphone.i doubt all 3 went out at same time.remember i stated it was working and then started cutting out as i played thru it so settings etc out of suspect also

On Mar 30, 2019 6:52 PM, "Ken Rowe bardkin@gmail.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Pots do get dirty, but not enough to completely block out the signal in any position- that would be more than dirt. those pots can rub a gap between the wiper and the seat causing noise and signal loss, but a dirty pot is a bit different.. And, any half way decent tech could replace them for pretty cheap.

As far as no "sound" on the outputs-

That is strange. the 2101 doesn't have a power section like a regular amplifier does. After signal goes through the tube(s) it goes right into digital processing and signal mixing. it's all line out voltage . That is why you need a powe4r amp or powered PA to plug it into and get sound.

So there are only a few possibilities if everything is hooked up correctly. in almost all cases, if there were something physically wrong with the unit then you would get an error on the display screen. bad tubes wont necessarily generate an error nor will pots or jacks.

#1 Do you have the foot controller? the expression pedal could be set as a volume control or the previous owner could have had it set to work with another expression pedal. Mine is set this way, where I have a cry baby pedal, then use my foot control pedal for volume. Try resetting the unit to factory settings.

#2 one or both tubes are shot.

Have you checked the tubes? You should pull them and put them on a tube tester or replace them- they are only $12.00 a piece at thetubestore.com.

#3 bad jacks or cables

This is the number one time consumer for troubleshooting. Again a new cable or a half way decent tech can resolve this.

#4 one or more of the DSP effects are bad.

Its going to cost a lot. more than the unit is worth. It would be better to buy another one or buy a similar and newer type unit. In looking at the schematics, the signal enters through an op-amp controlled channel switching circuit, then to the compressor/limiter circuitry and then to the tubes. Once a signal comes out of the tubes it is all digital effects from there on out. the signal loss could be happening ANYWHERE from the input jack on. it could take as much as 3 or 3 hours to test just to know what exactly is wrong, and then however much time to fix it plus the parts.

really there is nothing more to it than that. There are settings in the limiter and the distortion settings that could make it go quiet, but not 100% loss of signal.

I think, one thing you could do is to put a voltage meter to each of the output jacks. Just get a guitar cable and cut it in half. plug it in and hook the mutimeter leads to the cable and try to get a reading. at least then you would know if there is signal.

On 3/30/2019 4:07 PM, mk_nodelocked@yahoo.com [gsp-2101] wrote:

I have a similar issue with a backup 2101 unit. I don't get sound out of head phones or rear jacks unless I turn off the pre amp section. The outputs work with pre amp for a few seconds right after turning on the unit cold. Followed by crackling noise and no audio output at all after that. The unit works fine as a multi-efx box without distortion. See if you get sound after turning off the pre amp section in your patches. The pre amp section could be the culprit here.

/mk

---In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, <webbsguitars@...> wrote :

Twas not the loop?i heard a crackling and cutting out right before it stopped.could it be the output section.im flying blind here

On Mar 30, 2019 2:46 PM, Scott Webb <webbsguitars@...> wrote:

Thanks Nick i will try it

On Mar 30, 2019 2:40 PM, "Nick Williams nickwilliams@me.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I may be wrong but if you have a jack in the fx send and nothing going back into the returns, that might give you the symptoms you have. Try changing the external fx loop setting in the algorithm, 5 right arrow presses should get you there.

On 30 Mar 2019, at 16:22, "Scott Webb webbsguitars@yahoo.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi my first post. I have purchased a gsp 2101 and it has sound at the effects send but none at the outputs or headphone jack. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott

-- 
Ken Rowe
Longmont

Ok.probably not the jacks.there are two inputs one in front and back.3 outs left/right and headphone.i doubt all 3 went out at same time.remember i stated it was working and then started cutting out as i played thru it so settings etc out of suspect also

On Mar 30, 2019 6:52 PM, "Ken Rowe bardkin@gmail.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Pots do get dirty, but not enough to completely block out the signal in any position- that would be more than dirt. those pots can rub a gap between the wiper and the seat causing noise and signal loss, but a dirty pot is a bit different.. And, any half way decent tech could replace them for pretty cheap.

As far as no "sound" on the outputs-

That is strange. the 2101 doesn't have a power section like a regular amplifier does. After signal goes through the tube(s) it goes right into digital processing and signal mixing. it's all line out voltage . That is why you need a powe4r amp or powered PA to plug it into and get sound.

So there are only a few possibilities if everything is hooked up correctly. in almost all cases, if there were something physically wrong with the unit then you would get an error on the display screen. bad tubes wont necessarily generate an error nor will pots or jacks.

#1 Do you have the foot controller? the expression pedal could be set as a volume control or the previous owner could have had it set to work with another expression pedal. Mine is set this way, where I have a cry baby pedal, then use my foot control pedal for volume. Try resetting the unit to factory settings.

#2 one or both tubes are shot.

Have you checked the tubes? You should pull them and put them on a tube tester or replace them- they are only $12.00 a piece at thetubestore.com.

#3 bad jacks or cables

This is the number one time consumer for troubleshooting. Again a new cable or a half way decent tech can resolve this.

#4 one or more of the DSP effects are bad.

Its going to cost a lot. more than the unit is worth. It would be better to buy another one or buy a similar and newer type unit. In looking at the schematics, the signal enters through an op-amp controlled channel switching circuit, then to the compressor/limiter circuitry and then to the tubes. Once a signal comes out of the tubes it is all digital effects from there on out. the signal loss could be happening ANYWHERE from the input jack on. it could take as much as 3 or 3 hours to test just to know what exactly is wrong, and then however much time to fix it plus the parts.

really there is nothing more to it than that. There are settings in the limiter and the distortion settings that could make it go quiet, but not 100% loss of signal.

I think, one thing you could do is to put a voltage meter to each of the output jacks. Just get a guitar cable and cut it in half. plug it in and hook the mutimeter leads to the cable and try to get a reading. at least then you would know if there is signal.

On 3/30/2019 4:07 PM, mk_nodelocked@yahoo.com [gsp-2101] wrote:

I have a similar issue with a backup 2101 unit. I don't get sound out of head phones or rear jacks unless I turn off the pre amp section. The outputs work with pre amp for a few seconds right after turning on the unit cold. Followed by crackling noise and no audio output at all after that. The unit works fine as a multi-efx box without distortion. See if you get sound after turning off the pre amp section in your patches. The pre amp section could be the culprit here.

/mk

---In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, <webbsguitars@...> wrote :

Twas not the loop?i heard a crackling and cutting out right before it stopped.could it be the output section.im flying blind here

On Mar 30, 2019 2:46 PM, Scott Webb <webbsguitars@...> wrote:

Thanks Nick i will try it

On Mar 30, 2019 2:40 PM, "Nick Williams nickwilliams@me.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I may be wrong but if you have a jack in the fx send and nothing going back into the returns, that might give you the symptoms you have. Try changing the external fx loop setting in the algorithm, 5 right arrow presses should get you there.

On 30 Mar 2019, at 16:22, "Scott Webb webbsguitars@yahoo.com [gsp-2101]" <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi my first post. I have purchased a gsp 2101 and it has sound at the effects send but none at the outputs or headphone jack. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott

-- 
Ken Rowe
Longmont