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Control sound generator from K5?

2007-02-18 by ritchieclegg

I have a K5 and a Yamaha MU-10. 

I can connect them so I can play the K5's keyboard and the default
grand piano sounds on the MU-10's audio output.

Is it possible to store a MU-10 instrument change instruction on the
K5 as eg instrument patch A12 and then transmit that to the MU-10?

(This is so I wouldn't need a laptop or separate controller on stage.)

TIA,
John C.

Re: Control sound generator from K5?

2007-02-18 by nelsonj_sce

What happens when you change patches on your K5 (does the MU-10 also
change patches?

There should be a setting on the MU-10 that lets it responds to MIDI
patch change info.   You then just need to experiment a bit and figure
out how your MU-10 translates K5 patch changes.

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "ritchieclegg" <john.clegg@...> wrote:
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> I have a K5 and a Yamaha MU-10. 
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> I can connect them so I can play the K5's keyboard and the default
> grand piano sounds on the MU-10's audio output.
> 
> Is it possible to store a MU-10 instrument change instruction on the
> K5 as eg instrument patch A12 and then transmit that to the MU-10?
> 
> (This is so I wouldn't need a laptop or separate controller on stage.)
> 
> TIA,
> John C.
>

Re: [k5synth] Re: Control sound generator from K5?

2007-02-18 by John Clegg

Hi,

I just want to use the K5 as a keyboard and for it to instruct the MU-10
to change from piano to string synth (or other instrument).

So I would not change patches on the K5 - the hope is to be able to 
instruct the MU-10
by doing a dummy send dump of a K5 patch with those instructions in it.

John C.

nelsonj_sce wrote:
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> What happens when you change patches on your K5 (does the MU-10 also
> change patches?
>
> There should be a setting on the MU-10 that lets it responds to MIDI
> patch change info.   You then just need to experiment a bit and figure
> out how your MU-10 translates K5 patch changes.
>
> --- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "ritchieclegg" <john.clegg@...> wrote:
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>> I have a K5 and a Yamaha MU-10. 
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>> I can connect them so I can play the K5's keyboard and the default
>> grand piano sounds on the MU-10's audio output.
>>
>> Is it possible to store a MU-10 instrument change instruction on the
>> K5 as eg instrument patch A12 and then transmit that to the MU-10?
>>
>> (This is so I wouldn't need a laptop or separate controller on stage.)
>>
>> TIA,
>> John C.
>>
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RE : Re: [k5synth] Re: Control sound generator from K5?

2007-02-18 by Antoine DeschĂȘnes

Well, the K5 can output patch change instructions, if
you press twice on SYSTEM button you can control what
the K5 sends. 

K5 can only control the first 96 patches :
INT Single A 1 to A 12 -> GM patch 1 to 12
INT Single B 1 to B 12 -> GM patch 13 to 24
INT Single C 1 to C 12 -> GM patch 25 to 36
INT Single D 1 to D 12 -> GM patch 37 to 48

EXT Single A 1 to A 12 -> GM patch 49 to 60
EXT Single B 1 to B 12 -> GM patch 61 to 72
EXT Single C 1 to C 12 -> GM patch 73 to 84
EXT Single D 1 to D 12 -> GM patch 85 to 96

MULTI does nothing.

--- John Clegg <john.clegg@...> a \ufffdcrit :

> Hi,
> 
> I just want to use the K5 as a keyboard and for it
> to instruct the MU-10
> to change from piano to string synth (or other
> instrument).
> 
> So I would not change patches on the K5 - the hope
> is to be able to 
> instruct the MU-10
> by doing a dummy send dump of a K5 patch with those
> instructions in it.
> 
> John C.
> 
> nelsonj_sce wrote:
> > What happens when you change patches on your K5
> (does the MU-10 also
> > change patches?
> >
> > There should be a setting on the MU-10 that lets
> it responds to MIDI
> > patch change info.   You then just need to
> experiment a bit and figure
> > out how your MU-10 translates K5 patch changes.
> >
> > --- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "ritchieclegg"
> <john.clegg@...> wrote:
> >   
> >> I have a K5 and a Yamaha MU-10. 
> >>
> >> I can connect them so I can play the K5's
> keyboard and the default
> >> grand piano sounds on the MU-10's audio output.
> >>
> >> Is it possible to store a MU-10 instrument change
> instruction on the
> >> K5 as eg instrument patch A12 and then transmit
> that to the MU-10?
> >>
> >> (This is so I wouldn't need a laptop or separate
> controller on stage.)
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >> John C.
> >>
> >>     
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Re: Control sound generator from K5?

2007-02-18 by JJB

On the K5, press the MIDI button twice. On the left-ish side of the  
screen set PGM to ON. Press MIDI again, set the MIDI TRS channel to  
whatever MIDI channel the MU10 is on. So if the MU10 is on channel 5,  
set the Transmit (TRS) channel to that one.

Joel

Re: [k5synth] Re: Control sound generator from K5?

2007-02-19 by John Clegg

Antoine and JJB,

Thanks guys! I will experiment with those suggestions.

John C.


JJB wrote:
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> On the K5, press the MIDI button twice. On the left-ish side of the  
> screen set PGM to ON. Press MIDI again, set the MIDI TRS channel to  
> whatever MIDI channel the MU10 is on. So if the MU10 is on channel 5,  
> set the Transmit (TRS) channel to that one.
>
> Joel
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [k5synth] Re: Control sound generator from K5?

2007-02-19 by John Clegg

Antoine and JJB,

Thanks guys! I will experiment with those suggestions.

John C.


JJB wrote:
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> On the K5, press the MIDI button twice. On the left-ish side of the  
> screen set PGM to ON. Press MIDI again, set the MIDI TRS channel to  
> whatever MIDI channel the MU10 is on. So if the MU10 is on channel 5,  
> set the Transmit (TRS) channel to that one.
>
> Joel
>

Re: Control sound generator from K5?

2007-02-19 by JJB

One more thing: if you are controlling a synth with an arpeggiator or  
sequencer from he K5, you may have a problem as the K5 sends more  
than just a note-off when you release a note - it sends an All Notes  
Off message when you release the last note. If you have a midi data  
filter program or hardware, you might try to filter that message out.

Joel

Re: [k5synth] Re: Control sound generator from K5?

2007-02-20 by John Clegg

I'm OK on that, thanks Joel - no sequencing involved.

John C.


JJB wrote:
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> One more thing: if you are controlling a synth with an arpeggiator or  
> sequencer from he K5, you may have a problem as the K5 sends more  
> than just a note-off when you release a note - it sends an All Notes  
> Off message when you release the last note. If you have a midi data  
> filter program or hardware, you might try to filter that message out.
>
> Joel
>
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