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Poly-800 II Manual

Poly-800 II Manual

2007-04-03 by narfman96

Hi,

  Does anyone know if there is a Poly-800 II manual? If so does 
anyone have a PDF copy? 

  I just picked up one that needs some work but I was able to get a 
really good bank of sounds from it using a combination of Midiquest 
9.1 and Midi-Ox so I have the sysex. I can load the factory presets 
and 2 or 3 other banks I found using Midi-Ox. The synth sends 
everything at once but my Midiman USB was up to the task. The other 
question I have is it sends random breath controller and modulation 
messages every 5 to 15 seconds. Is this normal? The values are 0 but 
it constantly sends them unless doing a sysex transfer. Also 
Midiquest will not let me edit the banks because the parameters are 
the same for every patch. Even though if I load the bank back in all 
the sounds are right. Weird!!! I e-mailed the MQ support guru on 
this. Does this mean there isn't an editor for this great synth?????

Stay tuned I have to go to the hospital to see my new grandson!

Thanks for any insight, Narfman

Re: Poly-800 II Manual

2007-04-03 by mr_shtootzky

I've got one in PDF. It's about 25 MB in size. I could try to send it 
to you tomorrow via e-mail, if it gets through, or maybe upload it to 
some sharing host. Any recommendations, by the way?
Best regards.
Marcin

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
>   Does anyone know if there is a Poly-800 II manual? If so does 
> anyone have a PDF copy? 
> 
>   I just picked up one that needs some work but I was able to get a 
> really good bank of sounds from it using a combination of Midiquest 
> 9.1 and Midi-Ox so I have the sysex. I can load the factory presets 
> and 2 or 3 other banks I found using Midi-Ox. The synth sends 
> everything at once but my Midiman USB was up to the task. The other 
> question I have is it sends random breath controller and modulation 
> messages every 5 to 15 seconds. Is this normal? The values are 0 
but 
> it constantly sends them unless doing a sysex transfer. Also 
> Midiquest will not let me edit the banks because the parameters are 
> the same for every patch. Even though if I load the bank back in 
all 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> the sounds are right. Weird!!! I e-mailed the MQ support guru on 
> this. Does this mean there isn't an editor for this great synth?????
> 
> Stay tuned I have to go to the hospital to see my new grandson!
> 
> Thanks for any insight, Narfman
>

Re: Poly-800 II Manual

2007-04-03 by narfman96

Hi Marcin,

  Thanks for the quick reply and the offer! YouSendIt.com is the one 
S-H I see most often. They've never hassled me after registering. I 
don't think my Yahoo account allows more the 10 MB at a time. The 
file area here is 100mb now if you wanted to post it in the files 
section for a while and then take it down that would probably be cool 
too. Is there a lot more to the manual than the first edition?

  Right now I've cleaned all the buttons and pots after disassembling 
 the whole synth. I cleaned and lubed the joystick thinking maybe 
that is the source of the midi CC chatter. I replaced the corroded 
(but not the board, whew!) battery with a nice gold contact holder 
and fresh CR2032. Next all the keys need cleaning.  2 "F" keys are 
not working and the "G4" key is snapped off but still works. Dust 
Bunnies have been multiplying in the puppy for years for sure. 

Thanks again, Narfman  

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "mr_shtootzky" <sztucki@...> wrote:
>
> I've got one in PDF. It's about 25 MB in size. I could try to send 
it 
> to you tomorrow via e-mail, if it gets through, or maybe upload it 
to 
> some sharing host. Any recommendations, by the way?
> Best regards.
> Marcin
> 
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > 
> >   Does anyone know if there is a Poly-800 II manual? If so does 
> > anyone have a PDF copy? 
> > 
> >   I just picked up one that needs some work but I was able to get 
a 
> > really good bank of sounds from it using a combination of 
Midiquest 
> > 9.1 and Midi-Ox so I have the sysex. I can load the factory 
presets 
> > and 2 or 3 other banks I found using Midi-Ox. The synth sends 
> > everything at once but my Midiman USB was up to the task. The 
other 
> > question I have is it sends random breath controller and 
modulation 
> > messages every 5 to 15 seconds. Is this normal? The values are 0 
> but 
> > it constantly sends them unless doing a sysex transfer. Also 
> > Midiquest will not let me edit the banks because the parameters 
are 
> > the same for every patch. Even though if I load the bank back in 
> all 
> > the sounds are right. Weird!!! I e-mailed the MQ support guru on 
> > this. Does this mean there isn't an editor for this great 
synth?????
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > 
> > Stay tuned I have to go to the hospital to see my new grandson!
> > 
> > Thanks for any insight, Narfman
> >
>

Re: Poly-800 II Manual

2007-04-04 by Triphammer

Poly 800 owner's manual can be downloaded here:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/index2.html

Wonderful thing Google...LOL!!

Cheers......Cristofe
http://www.myspace.com/cristofe


--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "mr_shtootzky" <sztucki@...> 
wrote:
>
> I've got one in PDF. It's about 25 MB in size. I could try to send 
it 
> to you tomorrow via e-mail, if it gets through, or maybe upload it 
to 
> some sharing host. Any recommendations, by the way?
> Best regards.
> Marcin
> 
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > 
> >   Does anyone know if there is a Poly-800 II manual? If so does 
> > anyone have a PDF copy? 
> > 
> >   I just picked up one that needs some work but I was able to 
get a 
> > really good bank of sounds from it using a combination of 
Midiquest 
> > 9.1 and Midi-Ox so I have the sysex. I can load the factory 
presets 
> > and 2 or 3 other banks I found using Midi-Ox. The synth sends 
> > everything at once but my Midiman USB was up to the task. The 
other 
> > question I have is it sends random breath controller and 
modulation 
> > messages every 5 to 15 seconds. Is this normal? The values are 0 
> but 
> > it constantly sends them unless doing a sysex transfer. Also 
> > Midiquest will not let me edit the banks because the parameters 
are 
> > the same for every patch. Even though if I load the bank back in 
> all 
> > the sounds are right. Weird!!! I e-mailed the MQ support guru on 
> > this. Does this mean there isn't an editor for this great 
synth?????
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > 
> > Stay tuned I have to go to the hospital to see my new grandson!
> > 
> > Thanks for any insight, Narfman
> >
>

Re: Poly-800 II Manual

2007-04-04 by mr_shtootzky

Hi Narfman,
So, here you are!
I uploaded it to Rapidshare (thank you Marco Andreetta!). Perhaps not 
the most convenient, but free and without registration, so I could do 
it quickly.
Here's the download link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/24258106/Poly800II_manual.pdf.html

I personally own Poly 800 MkI and got the instruction for MkII at 
some time only for comparison. Therefore I am not that familiar with 
it. But there's definitely more on MIDI implementation inside it. I 
hope it will help you though. And I wish you good luck with the 
restoration of your Poly MkII.
Best regards
Marcin




--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Marcin,
> 
>   Thanks for the quick reply and the offer! YouSendIt.com is the 
one 
> S-H I see most often. They've never hassled me after registering. I 
> don't think my Yahoo account allows more the 10 MB at a time. The 
> file area here is 100mb now if you wanted to post it in the files 
> section for a while and then take it down that would probably be 
cool 
> too. Is there a lot more to the manual than the first edition?
> 
>   Right now I've cleaned all the buttons and pots after 
disassembling 
>  the whole synth. I cleaned and lubed the joystick thinking maybe 
> that is the source of the midi CC chatter. I replaced the corroded 
> (but not the board, whew!) battery with a nice gold contact holder 
> and fresh CR2032. Next all the keys need cleaning.  2 "F" keys are 
> not working and the "G4" key is snapped off but still works. Dust 
> Bunnies have been multiplying in the puppy for years for sure. 
> 
> Thanks again, Narfman  
> 
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "mr_shtootzky" <sztucki@> wrote:
> >
> > I've got one in PDF. It's about 25 MB in size. I could try to 
send 
> it 
> > to you tomorrow via e-mail, if it gets through, or maybe upload 
it 
> to 
> > some sharing host. Any recommendations, by the way?
> > Best regards.
> > Marcin
> > 
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > >   Does anyone know if there is a Poly-800 II manual? If so does 
> > > anyone have a PDF copy? 
> > > 
> > >   I just picked up one that needs some work but I was able to 
get 
> a 
> > > really good bank of sounds from it using a combination of 
> Midiquest 
> > > 9.1 and Midi-Ox so I have the sysex. I can load the factory 
> presets 
> > > and 2 or 3 other banks I found using Midi-Ox. The synth sends 
> > > everything at once but my Midiman USB was up to the task. The 
> other 
> > > question I have is it sends random breath controller and 
> modulation 
> > > messages every 5 to 15 seconds. Is this normal? The values are 
0 
> > but 
> > > it constantly sends them unless doing a sysex transfer. Also 
> > > Midiquest will not let me edit the banks because the parameters 
> are 
> > > the same for every patch. Even though if I load the bank back 
in 
> > all 
> > > the sounds are right. Weird!!! I e-mailed the MQ support guru 
on 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > > this. Does this mean there isn't an editor for this great 
> synth?????
> > > 
> > > Stay tuned I have to go to the hospital to see my new grandson!
> > > 
> > > Thanks for any insight, Narfman
> > >
> >
>

Re: Poly-800 II Manual

2007-04-04 by narfman96

Hey Marcin, 

That was just what the doctor ordered! Thank you for going through 
the extra effort to upload this manual. This shows me a whole lot 
more than the first edition manual. The midi spec is much more 
complete. I'll try when I get time to crunch this file down to a more 
manageable size and post it here.

I've got everything back together and working as it should. The dead 
keys had dried out moth larvae under the rubber pads. So I would 
guess this was stored for a while in someone's closet. I still have 
one busted key but I sould be able to get that from synthparts.com. 
The key action is clean and precise now that everything is cleaned up 
and lubed properly. 

I figured out the midi CC chatter. Cleaning the joystick didn't make 
any difference but when I turn on the Program Write Enable switch all 
the chatter goes away. Maybe Korg was using this chatter for a midi 
heartbeat. Any ideas???

So now I've begun writing patches from front panel of this Poly since 
Midiquest told me they only wrote a Librarian not an Editor for this 
synth. I can't even store the individual patches in a Library or swap 
them around in a bank in Midiquest. So every bit of work must be 
saved in a bank. Even if I only worked on one patch. Geeeeez Guuuuys! 
Some librarian! The Poly-800 Mark II manual shows in detail the 
structure of the patch dumps so maybe I can figure out how to move 
the patches around manually in hex. More fun! 

Thanks for all the help, Narfman 


--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "mr_shtootzky" <sztucki@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Narfman,
> So, here you are!
> I uploaded it to Rapidshare (thank you Marco Andreetta!). Perhaps 
not 
> the most convenient, but free and without registration, so I could 
do 
> it quickly.
> Here's the download link:
> 
> http://rapidshare.com/files/24258106/Poly800II_manual.pdf.html
> 
> I personally own Poly 800 MkI and got the instruction for MkII at 
> some time only for comparison. Therefore I am not that familiar 
with 
> it. But there's definitely more on MIDI implementation inside it. I 
> hope it will help you though. And I wish you good luck with the 
> restoration of your Poly MkII.
> Best regards
> Marcin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Marcin,
> > 
> >   Thanks for the quick reply and the offer! YouSendIt.com is the 
> one 
> > S-H I see most often. They've never hassled me after registering. 
I 
> > don't think my Yahoo account allows more the 10 MB at a time. The 
> > file area here is 100mb now if you wanted to post it in the files 
> > section for a while and then take it down that would probably be 
> cool 
> > too. Is there a lot more to the manual than the first edition?
> > 
> >   Right now I've cleaned all the buttons and pots after 
> disassembling 
> >  the whole synth. I cleaned and lubed the joystick thinking maybe 
> > that is the source of the midi CC chatter. I replaced the 
corroded 
> > (but not the board, whew!) battery with a nice gold contact 
holder 
> > and fresh CR2032. Next all the keys need cleaning.  2 "F" keys 
are 
> > not working and the "G4" key is snapped off but still works. Dust 
> > Bunnies have been multiplying in the puppy for years for sure. 
> > 
> > Thanks again, Narfman  
> > 
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "mr_shtootzky" <sztucki@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > I've got one in PDF. It's about 25 MB in size. I could try to 
> send 
> > it 
> > > to you tomorrow via e-mail, if it gets through, or maybe upload 
> it 
> > to 
> > > some sharing host. Any recommendations, by the way?
> > > Best regards.
> > > Marcin
> > > 
> > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > >   Does anyone know if there is a Poly-800 II manual? If so 
does 
> > > > anyone have a PDF copy? 
> > > > 
> > > >   I just picked up one that needs some work but I was able to 
> get 
> > a 
> > > > really good bank of sounds from it using a combination of 
> > Midiquest 
> > > > 9.1 and Midi-Ox so I have the sysex. I can load the factory 
> > presets 
> > > > and 2 or 3 other banks I found using Midi-Ox. The synth sends 
> > > > everything at once but my Midiman USB was up to the task. The 
> > other 
> > > > question I have is it sends random breath controller and 
> > modulation 
> > > > messages every 5 to 15 seconds. Is this normal? The values 
are 
> 0 
> > > but 
> > > > it constantly sends them unless doing a sysex transfer. Also 
> > > > Midiquest will not let me edit the banks because the 
parameters 
> > are 
> > > > the same for every patch. Even though if I load the bank back 
> in 
> > > all 
> > > > the sounds are right. Weird!!! I e-mailed the MQ support guru 
> on 
> > > > this. Does this mean there isn't an editor for this great 
> > synth?????
> > > > 
> > > > Stay tuned I have to go to the hospital to see my new 
grandson!
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for any insight, Narfman
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Poly-800 II Manual

2007-04-06 by korgpolyex800

Hi Marcin,

Since Yahoo has expanded the storage on our group to 100M bytes, you
could upload the file to the files section of our group.

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "mr_shtootzky" <sztucki@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Hi Narfman,
> So, here you are!
> I uploaded it to Rapidshare (thank you Marco Andreetta!). Perhaps not 
> the most convenient, but free and without registration, so I could do 
> it quickly.
> Here's the download link:
> 
> http://rapidshare.com/files/24258106/Poly800II_manual.pdf.html
> 
> I personally own Poly 800 MkI and got the instruction for MkII at 
> some time only for comparison. Therefore I am not that familiar with 
> it. But there's definitely more on MIDI implementation inside it. I 
> hope it will help you though. And I wish you good luck with the 
> restoration of your Poly MkII.
> Best regards
> Marcin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Marcin,
> > 
> >   Thanks for the quick reply and the offer! YouSendIt.com is the 
> one 
> > S-H I see most often. They've never hassled me after registering. I 
> > don't think my Yahoo account allows more the 10 MB at a time. The 
> > file area here is 100mb now if you wanted to post it in the files 
> > section for a while and then take it down that would probably be 
> cool 
> > too. Is there a lot more to the manual than the first edition?
> > 
> >   Right now I've cleaned all the buttons and pots after 
> disassembling 
> >  the whole synth. I cleaned and lubed the joystick thinking maybe 
> > that is the source of the midi CC chatter. I replaced the corroded 
> > (but not the board, whew!) battery with a nice gold contact holder 
> > and fresh CR2032. Next all the keys need cleaning.  2 "F" keys are 
> > not working and the "G4" key is snapped off but still works. Dust 
> > Bunnies have been multiplying in the puppy for years for sure. 
> > 
> > Thanks again, Narfman  
> > 
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "mr_shtootzky" <sztucki@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've got one in PDF. It's about 25 MB in size. I could try to 
> send 
> > it 
> > > to you tomorrow via e-mail, if it gets through, or maybe upload 
> it 
> > to 
> > > some sharing host. Any recommendations, by the way?
> > > Best regards.
> > > Marcin
> > > 
> > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > >   Does anyone know if there is a Poly-800 II manual? If so does 
> > > > anyone have a PDF copy? 
> > > > 
> > > >   I just picked up one that needs some work but I was able to 
> get 
> > a 
> > > > really good bank of sounds from it using a combination of 
> > Midiquest 
> > > > 9.1 and Midi-Ox so I have the sysex. I can load the factory 
> > presets 
> > > > and 2 or 3 other banks I found using Midi-Ox. The synth sends 
> > > > everything at once but my Midiman USB was up to the task. The 
> > other 
> > > > question I have is it sends random breath controller and 
> > modulation 
> > > > messages every 5 to 15 seconds. Is this normal? The values are 
> 0 
> > > but 
> > > > it constantly sends them unless doing a sysex transfer. Also 
> > > > Midiquest will not let me edit the banks because the parameters 
> > are 
> > > > the same for every patch. Even though if I load the bank back 
> in 
> > > all 
> > > > the sounds are right. Weird!!! I e-mailed the MQ support guru 
> on 
> > > > this. Does this mean there isn't an editor for this great 
> > synth?????
> > > > 
> > > > Stay tuned I have to go to the hospital to see my new grandson!
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for any insight, Narfman
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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