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RE: Re: [L-OT] ]Goodbye/Arafat

2001-10-01 by Tiran Edri

when you say about sharon  that "He has the blood of thousands.." ,you're
not aware of FACTS:
1. The people who murdered  those people in Lebanon were Lebanons, motivated
by inter-lebanon fights and hates.
The thing Sharon was accused of  was he could know that this would happen.
If he was Russian British  or American this question wouldn't had arouse .  
Justice has the tendency to be with the strong. Look at what the Russian did
to chechnia, the british to folkland or what the American will do to
afganishtan. Be sure that if the same thing had happen in Israel the
American and all the world would not allow the israelies to response as they
allow the Americans.
Let me ask you - If you were in a war and had the information that two
groups ,which are your enemies might fight each other to death, would you
care ? 
I think that this thing proves that a lie ,if said enough times ,can be
mistaken to be truth. And that's the way it is.
2. You also ignore the fact that Arafat IS controlling the shooting and
killing ,at least at the Macro level.- for example:
 see the Austrian football team , they got a promise from Arafat that no
harm will be made to them. Not Sharon, not the Israeli government ,Arafat
promised them that.
Which also means that if he wants  some harm will be made to them ,otherwise
he wouldn't be asked to promise there safety.


3. As for the last "intifada" going on for the last year - 
So far there was a discussion going on whether Sharon's visit in Jerusalem
was the ignition to the "intifada" or not.
This discussion is over: 
one of arafat's man published a book , in arab language , which said that
they organized for war long before this and they grab the opportunity to
blame "Sharon" .
4. Arafat is placing his people as victims , and provoke things that will
cause lose of life.

5. And I truly believe the palestiniens deserve a country .problem is they
have to realize they don't have to destroy us if they have.
6. CNN - How can you believe a network whose reporters are palestenians ?
how can you believe a network who suppress news when the palestenians don't
approve them ? there have been numerous examples how this network is biased
. were you aware of the fact that the kid that was shut to death near his
father was actually shut to death by the Palestinians ? well I've got a job
,so I have to return working... 
7. the israelies speakers sucks ( mostly because they think , mistakenly, "
we're right and that's why we don't have to explain or speak",and the
palestenians are doing a great job. And it's shows.

 Bye
Tiran.



-----Original Message-----
From: GAmoore@... [mailto:GAmoore@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:43 PM
To: logic-ot@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [L-OT] ]Goodbye/Arafat

>This discussion is going nowhere.  I can't get a straight answer, so I'm
>dropping it.  I'm glad there are diplomats out there with more patience
than
>I.

I think the bottom line is that yes Arafat supported terrorism - 
certainly in the past, but its not clear at all now. I know of no 
evidence that Arafat ever killed anyone himself. Even Shimon Perez was on 
CNN last night as conceded that Arafat can't control every Palestinian 
with a rock in his hand or a gun.

The counter point is that Sharon is just as much a terrorist. And I don't 
just mean the political assasinations of late that take out 5 other 
innocent people for one suspected leader. He has the blood of thousands 
innocent women and children on his hands. Even now, he doesn't want 
peace, he keeps cancelling peace talks, despite pleas from Perez and from 
Bush. He is unfit to lead a country. 

So both leaders are terrorists. Thats your answer. Arafat looks more like 
a terrorist, but Sharon actually has a higher body count. 


 

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