The Logic Off Topic list

Not even that the US has the highest energy consumption per person, it also
has the (way!) highest meat consumption per person and we all know that this
is an ecological tragedy (7 plant calories for 1 meat calory without even
thinking about the results of that) which also causes an economical tragedy
for some parts of the world (producing the required plant calories).

And yes, such things (and their follow-ups) are the reason for the US to be
one of the major targets for terrorism.

Also, now we all have to agree with the US (at least allmost all the
european governments do), but what about let's say Kyoto? "Oh, sorry, we are
the US, our economical wealth is more important than some stupid environment
protection".
But with the WTC attacks everybody expects us to be and agree with you, eh?
Not me, sorry (don't get me wrong, I'm with all the poor innocent people
being killed in the WTC).

What about the Taliban? They have existed before, they have been as bad
before. Did anybody EVER care about that? The answer simply is no. First
time people were interested was when the "Shelter Now" employees were
arrested.
What about bin Laden? Since when has he been announcing his fight against
the US? Certainly not only since 09|11|2001. Has the mighty CIA done
anything against that? Again the answer is no because none of their famous
agents wants to live surrounded by fatalist muslims, only wants to breath
hot and dusty air without any women and alcohol around (this is not like a
OO7/Timothy Dalton movie). So the El-Quaida hasn't been infiltered at all
(neither has ANY islamic fundamentalistic organisation been infiltered).
Also, as long as it was good for their position, the US government has
supported radical fundamentalists in Afghanistan (the Mudjahiddin fighting
the former USSR). Now, all of a sudden they are bad, huh?
Don't tell me you care about peace in the world, ALL the western countries
(usually) only care about things when their OWN interests/people are
attacked. I can't stand those pseudo "we are the saviour of peace in the
world" approaches any longer.

OK, I won't comment on this any further, most likely I also won't reply to
anything again because of 2 reasons:
1) I have seen WAY too much of these weird discussions during the last weeks
and none of them made me change my mind at all (that might just be me but
that's what it is like), and (maybe as important)
2) My english simply isn't as good to stand a political and/or rethoric
discussion about such things.

Peace,
Sascha