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David Floyd wrote:
>    I'm not alone in these feelings here in America. Most of us here
> are just regular human beings, and if we are wasting your planet, we
> didn't know that. We all live in the means that we can afford, and
> what we grew up with. I, personally, can't afford to be wasteful. If
> running my air conditioner when it's hot, or running the heat when
> it's cold, then I am wasteful, I have to pay for it. When I run out of
> gas in my car, I have to go get gas for it, if that wasteful, I'm
> guilty to that too.

fair comment, but there is always some way that we can all help cut back on
western societies conspicuous consumption. The bottom line is to ask
yourself at the most basic level - do I need this to exist?
It is a hard line to take but I think we all need to start asking ourselves
those questions and realising we are all part of the problem, and by that I
mean all Western society - and in that I would include Japan, parts of Asia
even portions of China - ie. Western is not geographically but societal in
its description....

> You guys aren't very friendly at all, IMO. I've been very hurt
> by what I read here by who I thought were merely fellow human beings.
> I had no idea how you really felt toward us.

on behalf of my own sometimes seemingly militant comments and on those
others who may have unwittingly insulted you  David, I apologise - you are
right, we are all people. But everybody knows that people just dont know how
to get along!! :)

>   My feelings about all this is that, now I know what you really feel,
> you've made it clear, knowing the disgust that you have for us. That
> you think that WE are, and always have been the true problem of this
> world, and you are not. And that we never cared until now when it has
> come to our own soil, about the terrorisms that affects or will affect
> this whole planet, including where you live, sooner or later. That
> just isn't true at all, for me, and for anyone that I know.
>
>    I know that many of you almighty "wise" folks will say that I just
> can't stomach the truth. It's your truth, not mine. You don't know me,
> but still you don't like me, because I'm American. Well sooner or
> later, that's gonna cause me not to like you back. And for that I'm
> truly sorry.

The one victory that Osama Bin Laden will have gained from all this is if he
forces good people to close their minds. Keep listening and commenting, and
discussing David ; we will all of us be better  off for it at the other
side - wherever and whenever that may be.

regards
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----- Original Message -----
From: <david@...>
To: <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 2:07 PM
Subject: [L-OT] European "Friends"?


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