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--- In logic-ot@y..., GAmoore@a... wrote:
I commented: 
> >Yoonchi.
> >Ps I'm sorry that the American president made a stupid move by attacking
> >a country just for political reasons, not for the purpose to fight terrorism.

And GA Moore reacted with:
> What kind of stupid comment is that? Are the leaders of Europe and Russia all 
> fools? They have all seen the evidence and support us fully - not to mention 
> many other nations.

Ok, I want to show you how 'stupid' my comment was.
First of all you tell a country, Afghanistan, to hand over a person, bin Laden, unconditionally. Then, you threaten them to attack them, if they don't hand over that person. You, the government of the USA, go around some countries, first stating that if you are not the ally you'll be the enemy of the USA. You show some leaders of the western world something, noone knows but those people in higher places, telling the world you can't show all because of security reasons. I can buy this.
Then you start a build up of the person bin Laden, as being the evil of all evil in the public eye. All of a suden the goal shifts from trying to combat terrorism to trying to overthrow the Taliban. What happened here?
Have you seen the evidence? Since when do you believe what these leaders tell you? The only glimpse I've seen of the declaration was of an article on the french Le Monde site, stating that bin Laden is a terrorist in the bombing of embassies in Kenya and Tanzania; the article can be found at http://www.lemonde.fr/article/0,5987,3230--229567-,00.html. It's in french. And it's not proof, just a declaration.
So all these nations, out of fear, decide to go the way America wants it. Remember the discussion you had with Hendrik Jan? How we don't want to go down like lemmings? That is exactly what is happening. And the focus has gone from combatting terrorism to attacking the Taliban regime. Not that I'm in favor of that ruthless Taliban regime, but the focus has shifted. What's next? Attacking Syria, because they shelter terrorists? Hey, that Syria regime is no fav of the US either so why not use a pretext to attack it too.
What next then, Saudi Arabia? I bet you'll have a big war on your hands there if you attack them.
So, I don't see why Bush couldn't get some diplomacy going there to get that terrorist network annihalated. Or maybe it's purposely done to shift the focus. So the real financers of terrorism are not revealed.
Result of the attacks: millions of refugees, a country devasted more than it already was, animocity towards Islamic countries with ground to breed extremists. And maybe the nationalist feelings of a nation satisfied, because 'we had to do something against these attrocities commited on September 11'
How 'stupid' was that?
Yoonchi.