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Dennis Gunn <mightyjohn@...> wrote:

>Not buying this for an instant. Territorial and environmental are
>two different things.

Only when viewed in a political and economic sense. What is
territory if nothing more than a 'claim' to an environment?

>Giving the terrorists environmentalist motives  is pure attribution.

The following is taken from an article which is based on a letter
sent  to Al-Quds al-Arabi, an Arabic newspaper published in
London entitled "Declaration of the World Islamic Front for Jihad
against the Jews and the Crusaders" and can be viewed at:

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/Search/document_briefings.asp?i=19981101facomment1
428.xml

"Since God laid down the Arabian peninsula, created its desert,
and surrounded it with its seas, no calamity has ever befallen
it like these Crusader hosts that have spread in it like locusts,
crowding its soil, eating its fruits, and destroying its verdure;
 and this at a time when the nations contend against the Muslims
like diners jostling around a bowl of food."

These are motives. And they are describing  a territorial
invasion as an environmental catastrophe. And after selected
passages of the Q'ran which open the procalamation, they are the
first composed words of that letter.

>Unwise in the extreme.  I would never attribute
>one of my values to a terrorist.

Arrogant in the extreme.  In any case, whatever values you
do or do not attribute to a terrorist won't make any difference
to their truths.  And obviously vice versa. And if and while these
statements are both true, concilliation of any sort will never be a
possiblity and that I suspect is really bad news for all of us...

>It would not make me look good.

Is that the real problem? We're past that. Or should be.

>And further why would one want to assign them virtues they don't even
>claim for themselves.   Foolish and ghoulish.

See Above.

You seem to persist in targeting every perceived flaw in my
responses to your provocations. Rather selectively, as if in order
to confirm your obvious suspicions that I am a terrorist apologist
and/or strongly Anti-American or just 'ghoulish'. Well I am sorry
to disappoint you but I am none of those,  though I am seriously
wondering who the one with the agenda is.