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At 4:07 PM +0800 10/14/01, LogicBaby wrote:
>Dear Dennis;
>
>Unfortunately, the "Average" American knows so little about the situation in
>the middle east, and if he does its a very distorted picture, a picture all
>made in Hollywood, CNN and the Jewish lobby "which I even doubt that the
>later know the truth, except blindly supporting Israel". Dennis, After the
>peace conference in Madrid since the 90s all the Arab countries have
>recognized Israel right's for existence in return for occupied lands "lands
>for peace", the Palestinians have given up what they consider 80% of
>historical Palestine just to have a state and peace.

I really do wish you would read what I wrote.   Because you don't 
seem to be getting it all.  I did not say that *all* of Israel's 
neighbors do not want to recognize them.   What I said was "a non 
negligible faction does not want peace with Israel to be even 
remotely possible because they don't want Israel to be possible." 
Regardless of what the leaders want there are those people who don't 
want any Israel just as there are crazy Israelis that want to occupy 
the settlements *no matter what*.  Right?  Or are you going to deny 
that that faction exists as well.  The way it looks from here is that 
as soon as things start moving in a positive direction someone one 
one side or the other starts shooting because there are nuts on both 
sides who are totally unwilling to compromise and will do anything to 
stop it.    What I said quite clearly is that Americans are getting 
tired of Israel's brutality. That is what I said.  If you want  argue 
any of that stuff go ahead but do please take a look at what you are 
responding to.

Ironically if there is any one thing the fanatics on the Jewish side 
benefit from the most it is the actions of the fanatics on the 
Palestinian side.  All I say is until the nuts on both sides are 
reigned in I don't see how there is anything the US can do about it, 
because the closer anyone gets to an agreement the more violent the 
crazies always seem to get be they Palestinian or Jew.

I am not buying the theory that that is Hollywood's fault.  And you 
are clearly not buying the concept that Palestinians do actually have 
some sympathy from the average American.  That is an unfortunate 
thing for you.

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