Who cares? I don't give a rat's ass for any "civilization" who uses religion and ethnicity as a source for violence and fuck anyone else who does. Reading your message you used the words : Jewish, Christians, Arab, Zionist, Islam. Seems to me like you are bringing religious views into a geopolitical event and you offer no solutions [big pet peeve of mine]. If you can't get along with you black or Jewish or yellow neighbors than that is YOUR problem you need to grow up from. We have laws against hate crimes in the US that force Americans to embrace each others differences. I guess I have little respect or any civilization that can't get their shit together enough to not be racist or elitist in their religious views. These guys say holy war so much they sound like a bunch of whiney bitches. There is nothing holy about war, unless of course you belong to a religion that preaches hate and killing. And fighting about god in this day and age makes you look really ignorant and stupid don't you think? I personally don't give a shit about palestein or Israel or anything any of those motherfucks refer to as politics. Religion and government don't mix. That's a fucking fact! This is the result of what happens when motherfucks try to mix them. If any of you assholes out there think it does, war will NEVER cease. Leave people alone and let them have more moderate views if they want to. People in jail for teaching Catholicism in Afghanistan??? Barbaric. Israel getting referred to as "the Jews". Fuck you. Israel is full of Israelis, asshole. If these sons of bitches [and I mean every person who's cause revolves around their version of god] could remove religion from the picture entirely, they would look just as stupid and ignorant to each other as they do to every tolerant person on the planet. Here's an example of tolerance. I don't care if my black gay neighbors worship Satan. As long as they respect my property and don't cause any disturbances in the middle of the night whilst I sleep they won't hear any complaints from me. If they do either, I shall report it to the police and file a complaint. I know this type of tolerance is hard to grasp for a lot of you out there in the world but I'm sure you are up to the challenge. Why don't ya'll try to work out the problems yourselves. Is it really America's fault for what is happening between Israel and palestein?? Why were a bunch of different people from different backgrounds and religions and countries able to come to a new continent and form a civilization based on these principles over the course of 200 years? It isn't perfect by any means but it is pretty close. Those fuckers have been there since before Jesus and they are still fighting. Bottom line: Point the finger at yourselves! ******* >billy< _______ -----Original Message----- From: LogicBaby [mailto:basharar@...] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 3:08 AM To: logic ot yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [L-OT] The Real Cause Dear Dennis; Unfortunately, the "Average" American knows so little about the situation in the middle east, and if he does its a very distorted picture, a picture all made in Hollywood, CNN and the Jewish lobby "which I even doubt that the later know the truth, except blindly supporting Israel". Dennis, After the peace conference in Madrid since the 90s all the Arab countries have recognized Israel right's for existence in return for occupied lands "lands for peace", the Palestinians have given up what they consider 80% of historical Palestine just to have a state and peace. Israeli propaganda made it seem that its always at war and in danger so they earn bigger checks from the US and gain more sympathy from the Jewish community there. I DOUBT that the average American knows what crimes against humanity Israel commits, Bulldozing houses while leaving there owners in the street "because they don\ufffdt have a permit in there occupied lands, or represent a security risk", building settlements on Illegal stolen lands and planting them with Russian and Ethiopians settlers "most of whom are Christians with fake documents" all with US money, Bulldozing Olive trees that have been there for 1000s of years "they have killed over 30,000 trees so far" as a form of punishment for the poor farmers, we call those olive trees "Romanians" because they have been there since the days of the great Rome.... Any kid at any age can go to jail and be trailed as an adult because of old British military laws in effect, Assassinating political leaders with apaches helicopters "what the media calls polity targeted killings", Bombing civilian areas with F-16 "which is against US export Laws BTW< but Israel can do anything above the LAW", and last but not least Occupying others lands and making there life hell for 50 years or so,Dennis I am not asking you to feel sympathy for the Palestinians, but your tax money is going towards supporting a secular and raciest state based upon the Zionist ideology, that has nothing to do with the Jewish religion , same that Bin Laden has nothing to do with Islam, shooting at children is a form of terrorism, military occupation is terrorism, The Palestinian people have all the right to resist there occupier just like all the free nations in the world today, so even if you where brought up to believe "or know" what the "average" man knows, I ask you to look deep and seek the truth so you knowledge of the world is not so " average" anymore. 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The Real Cause is religion mixed with politics
2001-10-14 by Billy Hayes
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