The Logic Off Topic list

I really wish you would stick to sequential quoting so that I know 
which of the comments you are making refer to which quoted material.




>  > It is a fact that the Taliban use regular old cars for their
>>  operations and throughout the modern history of warfare as long as
>>  there have been cars they have been targets for that exact reason.
>>  Look it up.

>I am talking about a specific incident that was only presented on al-jazeera
>television, they have destroyed an entire village because there where some
>cars on the screen....... Too bad the rest of the media is ignoring it

Too bad there is a war.  Too bad that white skinned English speaking 
journalists are going to be seeing different things than the ones 
who's shirts and cameras and caps say "Al Jazeera".  Too bad that Al 
Jazeera can say whatever it wants and 1 billion Muslims around the 
world will not question it.  It's all too bad. But thats the way it 
is.

BTW BBC was just showing a bombed out village.  The people living 
there said the area had nothing to do with Taliban.  But there was 
one big bombed out building in the middle of everything that the 
reporter claimed was a Taliban building.  What is true?  I have no 
way of knowing.  Is the guy being interviewed really just a regular 
guy who sells pistachios at the market, or is he a Taliban official 
who worked in that big building?  Or is he both?  Where does one get 
the truth?  Are people living under a regime as notoriously brutal as 
the Taliban going to talk to a cameraman of the media from a country 
that regime is at war with and criticize them while members of that 
regime are standing around with guns?  Would the reporters from the 
BBC who were being ferried around by the Taliban be allowed to see 
anything that the Taliban does not want them to see or to talk to 
people who might say things the Taliban does not like?  What do you 
think

>  > If his own words have not made his intentions clear enough what would
>  > convince you?
>
>Bin Laden said he hates American government he did not say HE did it,

Bin laden funds camps where people are trained as terrorists and no 
one has ever denied that.  Bin laden has also said that Muslims 
should kill Americans where ever and whenever they have the 
opportunity. As white skinned man with an American accent living in 
an Asian city I don't know how else to see that but as a personal 
threat.

All my life I have been raised to respect people of other races and 
religions but when I see Muslims around the world saying that man is 
a hero it really put those principles to the test.

>Saddam
>says the same thing, same goes for the KKK and the white militias in the
>south.....There is no concrete evidence, unlike what the media is trying to
>brain wash everybody with,




>I am not defending bin laden for God's sake

hmmm.


>  but I
>just doubt his capabilities and intelligence,

Why?  He has proven very astute in many areas and the September 11 
incident was not a technological miracle.  The plan worked because of 
its simplicity.  Why do you doubt that he could have pulled it off?


>  I think there are other
>parties, secret services/ governments involved in this, I think Bin Laden is
>overblown for political reasons no more, after all if I was the president or
>the CIA chief I would resign......

Nobody has ever ruled out the involvement of other entities, that 
does not make bin laden innocent.

>
>>  I would not want my children raised under the Taliban.  Would you?

>I don't want children to be killed because "civilians casualties" are price
>for the war,

Nobody wants that.  But that is what always happens when war comes.


>I don't think Taliban should have been the target,

Why not?  The Taliban were given an opportunity even long after it 
was clear that they were involved with bin Laden and they chose a 
side.  Besides it seems that the Taliban were getting money and 
training from Bin Laden and his camps.  They are pretty tightly 
interlinked and I don't see how one could in practical terms divide 
al Qaida from the Taliban.

>or the
>innocent Afghanis suffering as a result of that, there are so many injustice
>in the world and dictatorships supported by the free world when it suits
>there needs "Musharf Good Guy Now in Pakistan is just an example", I would
>not want my kids raised  there either.......



>  > And your solution is?

>!!! war is not the answer, do you copy!

Tell it to the people hijacking our airplanes and putting anthrax in 
mail.  Do you copy.