The Logic Off Topic list

From: "Jeremy Martin" <sadus@...>
>Someone could always create a new "Logic-Politics" for all the LUGers 
>to post about such things there, but that's up to you all.
>I'm not trying to be mean or anything, politics (that have nothing to 
>do with music) have no place on our music-related lists. I was going 
>to compare such political threads to OS wars (as in the end they are 
>equally useless), but at least OS wars have a little to do with music 
>in a round about way, while politics are definitely 110% off topic. 


I do NOT agree, 110%.   I've been following a lot of what's being said 
here, and I find it very ON TOPIC as it relates to our business and how 
other's using the same tools as I am and in a related business to mine 
feel about current events and politics, in general.  These things play 
themselves out when there's nothing left to say worthy of note. 
 However, pulling the trigger just because you can't relate to it or 
someone else complains that their "15 minutes of fame" is being 
overshadowed by something others feel is more important is not helpful, 
comes off as self indulgent and Draconian.  This IS an off topic list, 
and should be a place where those who use the same or similar tools and 
are in the same or a similar business may freely discuss issues 
important to them, and general things that affect their lives and 
businesses.  It was fascinating to watch the Peter Gabriel thread grow, 
and a lot of good points have been presented from different perspectives 
from around the world.  While you may cite there are "other political 
forums," there aren't many, in fact only one other I know of 
(daw-mac-ot) where musicians/artists, recordists, producers, and those 
with a fringe interest in the music industry can get together and 
express their views of the world and what affects them, as well as learn 
the same things about others.  

IMO, your desire to shut off the political discussion is somewhat 
understandable, but not very well thought out.  There have been MANY 
other "issues" brought up in this forum that had nothing to do with 
anything remotely related to Logic Audio OR the music industry in 
general and no one complained.  I merely skipped over those that didn't 
interest me.  Instead of censoring the political discussion (which I've 
not participated in, but have read with interest), I suggest you simply 
skip over it if you don't find it of use to you.

Finally, I suggest this may be "youthful exuberance" or a lack of it on 
your part Jeremy, but many of us are greatly affected by world events 
these days and if you aren't writing music about them, you should be 
thinking about them, and if you aren't acting on any of them, you're 
letting someone else control your life.  I say this as someone who's 
been on this list about 4 years and seen the list founder Jeori, express 
his own "political views" on this list numerous times.  So, I humbly 
suggest you rethink your decision and let people discuss whatever they 
choose as long as they're not being overly abusive to each other.  :)

Best regards,
...z


"Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created 
them."
-Albert Einstein

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