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>Unfortunately, Dennis, people like Mr. Bush is all some of us ever see as 
>representative of the USA. With all due respect to you, he is coming over 
>as a perfectly ordinary and typical American, expressing perfectly ordinary 
>and typical American views in a perfectly ordinary and typical American 

The majority of Americans would disagree - at least the majority that 
voted for Gore. It is a fact that more Americans voted for Gore than for 
the grumpy C student. I would take Clinton to be more typical of an 
enlightened American and Bush as remmant of the past. But thats just me. 
I find it insulting to attribute that idiot as an icon of our country.


>It is a mystery -- and it would seem to be so to you -- why so many 
>ordinary and typical Americans felt it appropriate to choose him for their 
>president. It is surely not unreasonable to conclude that it is because 
>ordinary and typical Americans regard him as the ideal representative of 
>their ordinary and typical lives

He actually lost the election by a fair reckoning. Those who did support 
him were the anti-abortion-is-the-only-issue crowd, and the greedy rich 
who want tax cuts .... oh and supreme court justices appointed by his 
father. The common people and intellectuals voted for Gore.

Hi Mr. Moore,

>The majority of Americans would disagree - at least the majority that
>voted for Gore. It is a fact that more Americans voted for Gore than for
>the grumpy C student.
I know these things. Unfortunately, many other people in the world do not. 
Because ... Bush ended up as president anyway.

>I would take Clinton to be more typical of an
>enlightened American and Bush as remmant of the past. But thats just me.
I don't think it's just you, actually. I have met very many Americans who 
feel exactly the same way.

>I find it insulting to attribute that idiot as an icon of our country.
I can understand why you would find it insulting. But ... is it not 
understandable that foreigners should take the president as the icon and 
symbol of the country?


>He actually lost the election by a fair reckoning.
>Those who did support
>him were the anti-abortion-is-the-only-issue crowd, and the greedy rich
>who want tax cuts .... oh and supreme court justices appointed by his
>father. The common people and intellectuals voted for Gore.

As above, I know that this is a commonly held opinion within the USA. But 
... he became the president anyway!!

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> He actually lost the election by a fair reckoning. Those who did support

No, he didn't lose it by a "fair reckoning", it was a virtual national tie.
The interests of this nation were quite divided on which was the lesser of
two evils.

> him were the anti-abortion-is-the-only-issue crowd, and the greedy rich
> who want tax cuts .... oh and supreme court justices appointed by his
> father. The common people and intellectuals voted for Gore.

That's pretty insulting to the "common people".  From all appearances the
common people were pretty divided, unless the definition of "common" is much
different from what I would imagine it to be.  If the only people who
supported Bush were the 2 demos you indicated and the supreme court
justices, then he would have lost period.  Aside from any quantitative
analysis (which you could look at on a per state basis) I know a lot of
people personally who certainly are are neither rich nor anti-abortion who
backed Bush over Gore.  Also, if you look at the results posted early this
year about the Florida election, it was a virtual tie by any accounting;
ironically the last report I saw showed that if votes were counted the way
Gore wanted, liberally interpreting loose chads and scuh, Bush won, whereas
if the votes were counted the way Bush wanted, ignoring anything but a clear
clean hole, Gore won.  Regardless, Florida was a tie, and the victory ended
up depending on that.