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> At 10:08 AM 12/8/2003, you wrote:
>> The 414 is not a "skinny" mic. It has many applications. It's great on nasal
>> or loud vocals, guitar amps, piano, drumset, etc. Me and my buddies think of
>> it as a higher quality SM57/58.
> 
> It also depends on which one. There are about 5 or 6 different 414's and
> they have different sounds. Just avoid the p48 or B-ULS ones whh have that
> harsh midrange which maybe what the poster means by 'skinny'.
> 
> Colin Miller 

true.

Teddy

>  > At 10:08 AM 12/8/2003, you wrote:
>>>  The 414 is not a "skinny" mic. It has many applications. It's 
>>>great on nasal
>>>  or loud vocals, guitar amps, piano, drumset, etc. Me and my 
>>>buddies think of
>>>  it as a higher quality SM57/58.
>>
>>  It also depends on which one. There are about 5 or 6 different 414's and
>>  they have different sounds. Just avoid the p48 or B-ULS ones whh have that
>>  harsh midrange which maybe what the poster means by 'skinny'.
>>
>>  Colin Miller
>
>true.

I am not familiar with the model break down but I have been in a few 
studio situations where somebody put a 414 of some variety on my 
voice and we went back to a Nueman every time.  OTOH I like the 
cheeper C3000 (I think that is the right model number) on my voice.

At 05:56 PM 12/9/2003, you wrote:

>I am not familiar with the model break down but I have been in a few
>studio situations where somebody put a 414 of some variety on my
>voice and we went back to a Nueman every time.  OTOH I like the
>cheeper C3000 (I think that is the right model number) on my voice.

That's easily believable since there really aren't many rules on vocals. 
Everyone's voice is different so there's no telling what Mic will be best. 
I remember one singer trying every fancy neuman, etc mic we could find, but 
couldn't get them to sound nearly as good as an RE20 on him. The different 
model 414's sound different so theoretically the cheaper ones could even 
sound better on someone's voice than the good ones (but less likely). The 
original (C414) has a C12 capsule, so you can bet its pretty nice. but the 
later models started using cheaper parts and different capsules. I 
personally cannot stand the C300, but as you mentioned, for you it works 
better than some neumans on your voice. My personal all around favs which i 
go to when there isn't a chance to find the best mic is usually the U67 or 
M149.

I guess the best bet for the original poster is to see how many mics you 
can borrow or get ahold of to try out on yourself until you find the one 
that works best (it could end up being a 57...)

Colin Miller