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There's been repeated rumours of this recently - one
Apple spokesman even saying that it's as perennial
as Halley's Comet - but this really does look like it's
kosher...I don't know whether to laugh or cry. 

'Intel Inside' and the Apple logo on the same machine?
Just had to check it's not April 1st. I guess we'll all
know on Monday. 

Just so long as they don't use VIA chipsets...
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Ade
LAWP 5.5.1

At 09:01 PM 6/4/05 +0100, you wrote:
>There's been repeated rumours of this recently - one
>Apple spokesman even saying that it's as perennial
>as Halley's Comet - but this really does look like it's
>kosher...I don't know whether to laugh or cry. 

Yeah, but there seems to be new info of a different nature. Apple have
often denied rumours about things they were not ready to announce.

As you say we'll soon know.

Regards,
M

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Murray McDowall <murraymc@m...> wrote:
> At 09:01 PM 6/4/05 +0100, you wrote:
> >There's been repeated rumours of this recently - one
> >Apple spokesman even saying that it's as perennial
> >as Halley's Comet - but this really does look like it's
> >kosher...I don't know whether to laugh or cry. 
> 
> And I've been considering the move to Mac because they've stuck to 
their guns through the corporate monarchy era. I enjoyed playing with 
PC's, but having been given so much control in the computer world, 
Gates started to think it was all his. I hope Apple doesn't go that 
route also because I belive people are finally sick of Gates and 
Windows. He has managed to get his operating systems into computers for 
a long time now and each new upgrade has been so full of flaws that 
most users that I know are just plain sick to death of him. Hopefully, 
the Intel parts match the integrity Apple is expecting them to have.

Gswerner2002 quoted a bunch of stuff not written by me:

>--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Murray McDowall <murraymc@m...> wrote:
>> At 09:01 PM 6/4/05 +0100, you wrote:
>> >There's been repeated rumours of this recently - one
>> >Apple spokesman even saying that it's as perennial
>> >as Halley's Comet - but this really does look like it's
>> >kosher...I don't know whether to laugh or cry. 

And then added:

> And I've been considering the move to Mac because they've stuck to 
>their guns through the corporate monarchy era. I enjoyed playing with 
>PC's, but having been given so much control in the computer world, 
>Gates started to think it was all his. I hope Apple doesn't go that 
>route also because I belive people are finally sick of Gates and 
>Windows. He has managed to get his operating systems into computers for 
>a long time now and each new upgrade has been so full of flaws that 
>most users that I know are just plain sick to death of him. Hopefully, 
>the Intel parts match the integrity Apple is expecting them to have. 

M$ bashing, while enjoyable sport, is not very relevant to the current
developments. I find it odd that you are dubious about the "integrity" of
Intel's parts. While their marketing has led the architecture by the nose
for some years and some recent chips (eg Prescott) have run very hot (for
the same reasons the latest G5s are noisy) they run code as expected. Most
of the world's business and communications runs on x86 and has done for
quite a while. If you run binaries - Unix, Linux, Win32 or 64 - the
processor spits out the expected results.  As the presentation said - all
the versions of OSX for the last five years have been compiled to run on
Intel. This is not surprising given that the Unix base on which OSX is
built is native to Intel.

Regards,
Murray

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Murray McDowall <murraymc@m...> 
wrote:
> Gswerner2002 quoted a bunch of stuff not written by me:
> 
> >--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Murray McDowall <murraymc@m...> 
wrote:
> >> At 09:01 PM 6/4/05 +0100, you wrote:
> >> >There's been repeated rumours of this recently - one
> >> >Apple spokesman even saying that it's as perennial
> >> >as Halley's Comet - but this really does look like it's
> >> >kosher...I don't know whether to laugh or cry. 
> 
> And then added:
> 
> > And I've been considering the move to Mac because they've stuck 
to 
> >their guns through the corporate monarchy era. I enjoyed playing 
with 
> >PC's, but having been given so much control in the computer world, 
> >Gates started to think it was all his. I hope Apple doesn't go 
that 
> >route also because I belive people are finally sick of Gates and 
> >Windows. He has managed to get his operating systems into 
computers for 
> >a long time now and each new upgrade has been so full of flaws 
that 
> >most users that I know are just plain sick to death of him. 
Hopefully, 
> >the Intel parts match the integrity Apple is expecting them to 
have. 
> 
> M$ bashing, while enjoyable sport, is not very relevant to the 
current
> developments. I find it odd that you are dubious about 
the "integrity" of
> Intel's parts. While their marketing has led the architecture by 
the nose
> for some years and some recent chips (eg Prescott) have run very 
hot (for
> the same reasons the latest G5s are noisy) they run code as 
expected. Most
> of the world's business and communications runs on x86 and has done 
for
> quite a while. If you run binaries - Unix, Linux, Win32 or 64 - the
> processor spits out the expected results.  As the presentation 
said - all
> the versions of OSX for the last five years have been compiled to 
run on
> Intel. This is not surprising given that the Unix base on which OSX 
is
> built is native to Intel.
> 
> Regards,
> Murray

Probably don't need to worry about fbi or cia coming to get ya or 
anything like that, just an observation of things.

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Hendrik Jan Veenstra wrote:
> I would hate to see an Intel-inside sticker on my new G7

But why, Hendrik?! This might be the first glimmer of something
that even die-hard Apple enthusiasts gave up fantasizing about
years ago - entertaining stuff on the implications over at the
Inquirer, especially:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23769 

Read it after watching the alternatively jaw-dropping and hilarious
WWDC keynote:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/wwdc05/
 - Intel's CEO couldn't have been in more of an orgiastic state if Steve
Jobs' real first name was Blow.
Compare and contrast with the almost begrudging attitude of Apple's
former chip partners. 

Wasn't D-Day also on the 6th of June?
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Ade