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To those jiggy with the software,

Is there any way on earth that I can play a Logic 7 GPO instrument 
track and when I stop it from playing the mod wheel will not go to 
zero?
I have been struggling with this issue since buying GPO months ago.
This issue was supposed to be resolved in Logic 7 but I can't figure 
out how to do it.
According to  the " Logic-GPO page. 
http://www.garritan.com/GPO-LogicPage.html " it states in reference to 
Logic 7   " The user has the Option  in preferences to configure logic 
to retain current controller settings or to reset them. "
I've looked all thru the logic preferences and cannot find this 
specific option.
The closest preference feature I can find in this area is: logic 
7/preferences/audio/reset/control 1 (Modulation) to zero.
Whether I check this option or not I get the same result. ( Mod wheel 
goes to zero when Logic is stopped )
At present I assign a GPO track with a CC#1 value of 127 at the 
beginning of the track and the track plays as it should but when I stop 
the sequencer the CC#1 goes to zero.
When I restart the sequencer the CC#1 goes back to 127.
This is good,  however my problem is that when I have the sequencer 
stopped I cannot monitor anything I play on my keyboard controller 
assigned to that track because CC#1 (a.k.a.) volume is at zero.
Yes I am aware that I can move my keyboard mod wheel to 127 and monitor 
this track.
Call me a grouch but is this the only solution?
Anyone able to slow my agonizing descent into dementia over this issue?

Thanks,
Jim

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On 16.06.2005, at 07:10, Jim Seaman wrote:

> At present I assign a GPO track with a CC#1 value of 127 at the
> beginning of the track and the track plays as it should but when I  
> stop
> the sequencer the CC#1 goes to zero.
> When I restart the sequencer the CC#1 goes back to 127.
> This is good,  however my problem is that when I have the sequencer
> stopped I cannot monitor anything I play on my keyboard controller
> assigned to that track because CC#1 (a.k.a.) volume is at zero.

Does the GPO use the ModWheel for volume? CC1 is usually the ModWheel  
but you say the volume is down. Volume is usually CC7 (or CC11 if one  
means Expression instead). I am a bit confused, there is no reset- 
preset for volume and that would be a problem in many cases anyway.

___
Peter Ostry

The ModWheel reset has been a true PITA since virtual instruments were implemented in Logic.
For plain MIDI instruments there's the "no reset" parameter in the instrument parameter box, but it's non existing for virtual
instruments.
Now, you can actually cable a standard MIDI instrument to a virtual instrument, but a) the "no reset" parameter never worked in that
scenario (maybe it does in Logic 7? I'm only familiar with 6 - so maybe you should give it a try) and b) you'll lose the virtual
instruments channel strip and/or automatic mixer selection.

I completely fail to see how Logic is still treating virtual instruments like some "second class" of instruments. This is
responsible for a lot of troubles (such as using multitimbral instruments) and all other hosts I know don't force you having to deal
with any such limitations.
But as said, I'd try the standard MIDI instrument > AUi cabling, maybe it's finally working in Logic 7 - even if I doubt it because
there's quite a few old bugs and major annoyances that seem to never get fixed. Maybe Emapple is thinking that people are just used
to them so they'll miss them in case anything was fixed.

Oh and btw, the various reset preferences don't affect the ModWheel behaviour at all. The only thing doing so is the "no reset"
parameter.

- Sascha

Here is a work around - just hit record, move your mod wheel around, stop 
record, open the event editor, delete all but one of the mod wheel control 
events. Change its value to 127. Move it to the start of the bar. Change the length 
of the bar to 1note (1/4 of a bar) and loop it infinitely. On the GPO track, 
make two tracks for the same midi channel, and put that infinite loop on one of 
them. (Assuming you are using a single midi channel). 

A number of people on the LUG were talking about wiring schemes to use the 8 
midi channels of the GPO and other Kontact players. Its a hassle each time and 
I didn't get it to work right, so screw it. I believe in KISS (Keep it simple 
stupid). I just do a new instance and one midi channel at a time. 

I agree with Sasha that Logic needs some work. He always seem to gripe about 
things bitterly, but he seems to be right, and no only that, one of the few 
people who, like me, expect a $1000 program to be a superior piece of software, 
not a "work-around, work in progress".


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