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Does anyone of you use the Focusrie Liquidmix?

I spent about $1.500 during the last months for several compressor  
and EQ plugins. Now I found out that the Liquidmix is way cheaper.  
Does that device really deliver different sounds or can it be seen as  
one plugin suite with a Liquidmix sound?

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Peter Ostry

Message posted by fuzoid <fuzoid@...>:

i saw screenshots and a review in Computer Music, it looks ecxellent! its mainly for EQ and compressors, though. it has heaps of analog-modelled compressors and some of their own too. id say its worth investigating....

On Sep 20, 2006, at 8:56 PM, fuzoid wrote:

> Message posted by fuzoid <fuzoid@...>:
>
> i saw screenshots and a review in Computer Music, it looks  
> ecxellent! its mainly for EQ and compressors, though. it has heaps  
> of analog-modelled compressors and some of their own too. id say  
> its worth investigating....
>
>

I have one - it isn't as wonderful as my Liquid channel preamps and I  
can convince myself that the models there sound a tiny bit better but  
it is a good product and they do a great job supporting users. Keep  
in mind that at 88.1khz, you are limited to 8 channels of liqud mix  
and that the expansion cards won't be out until late this year.

Brian

On 21.09.2006, at 13:23, Brian Mikiten wrote:

> I have one - it isn't as wonderful as my Liquid channel preamps and I
> can convince myself that the models there sound a tiny bit better but
> it is a good product and they do a great job supporting users. Keep
> in mind that at 88.1khz, you are limited to 8 channels of liqud mix
> and that the expansion cards won't be out until late this year.


Thanks, Brian,

out of curiousity:

Did Focusrite emulate the devices and adapt the parameters for each  
model or did they emulate the sound and made it compatible to their  
parameter concept? In other words, can you setup one compressor or EQ  
and switch to other models to look what sounds best or do you have to  
concentrate on favorite models which you know and handle them as if  
they where individual boxes?

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Peter Ostry

>
> out of curiousity:
>
> Did Focusrite emulate the devices and adapt the parameters for each
> model or did they emulate the sound and made it compatible to their
> parameter concept? In other words, can you setup one compressor or EQ
> and switch to other models to look what sounds best or do you have to
> concentrate on favorite models which you know and handle them as if
> they where individual boxes?

They use an emulation package that I won't attempt to explain here  
but it is well documented on line. In very basic terms, they do an  
impulse response test on amps, compressors, etc and model that  
response. Pretty cool stuff and amazingly accurate. You could (and I  
did) take 3 Neve preamps and not be able to tell the difference  
between their emulation and the preamps. In fact, the emulation  
sounded better than one of the preamps! I've not done the same with  
the EQs but I suspect it is similar. I REALLY like the EQ modeling  
and the fact that you can design your own EQ. The hardware connection  
is much simpler to use than screen interfaces although in most cases,  
both are provided.

Loading and switching in between models is easy but not as simple as  
a rack of compressors or EQs only due to switching times. I don't  
find it to be a problem.

Brian

On 21.09.2006, at 15:28, Brian Mikiten wrote:
> ...
> ...
> Loading and switching in between models is easy but not as simple as
> a rack of compressors or EQs only due to switching times. I don't
> find it to be a problem.

Yes, that is certainly no problem. I guess even if you want to change  
the model right in the track you can have a second instance, probably  
create a second track for that part.

Thanks for your informative description. Although I am no longer sure  
if the investment in a handful of plugins was the best idea I've had  
this year ;-)


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Peter Ostry