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Re: Slow OCD Remote/Insight debugging

2005-10-01 by John Heenan

The Signum JTAGjet claims download speed in excess of 1 MByte/sec, 
not 1Mbit/sec. From the Signum web site 
http://www.signum.com/Signum.htm 
"Actual speed 1.062 Mbyte/sec tested with ARM Evaluator 7T board and 
600 MHz Pentium III PC with USB 2.0 port. Faster PCs may yield faster 
downloads."

Since the JTAGjet uses USB 2.0 this is reasonable, provivded the 
target device and connections can hold up.

Leaving aside the issue of delays introduced by programming Flash, 
which many developers do not need to bother with during development 
if all their code fits into RAM, the claimed speed supports what many 
developers welcome and which was mentioned by Chris: rapid reading of 
data blocks at breakpoints.

The Signum JTAGjet also claims compatibility with all major ARM 
debuggers and another version of the JTAGjet supports ETM.

I am simply pointing out factual issues. This is what I welcome from 
a newsgroup, along with a balance of relevance and fair 
represenstation. 

John Heenan


--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Curtis" <plc@r...> wrote:
> Chris, 
> 
> > When I said 5 or 6 seconds, I was not trying to be that 
> > precise.  These were not measurements taken with any stop 
> > watch or by any elaborate timing method.  That was just my 
> > feeling.  It could be anywhere from 3-7 seconds as far as I 
> > now.  I don't pay that close attention to it.  I'm always 
> > erasing different amounts of memory.  Sometimes it is all 
> > 256K, and other times it is just 32K.  It depends.  So I get 
> > different times.
> > 
> > But programming is not what my point was about, as far as 
> > being JTAG speed.  Reading back the data for large blocks 
> > during debugging is where the speed comes in.  Stopping and 
> > starting breakpoints is when the data has to be pulled back 
> > through the JTAG.  That is a lot faster at 1M than at 14K.  
> > All of my half dozen windows fill quick.
> 
> You just don't seem to understand.  14K is the flashing rate in 
bytes
> per second and has nothing to do with your "1M rate" which is bits 
per
> second on TDI/TDO and clocking the JTAG state machine  If I told you
> that the CrossConnect actually runs a 4MHz clock on TCK that's 
faster
> than your 1M rate isn't it?
> 
> You're comparing apples with oranges.  Until you can understand 
that we
> can write data into RAM at 200Kbytes/second (that equates to
> 1.6Mbit/second), you're just not going to grasp that these pieces of
> hardware are comparible and, as far as I can tell form what you've 
said,
> the CrossConnect is faster.
> 
> -- Paul.

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