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LPC214x crystal frequencies

2005-11-17 by Karl Olsen

Hello all,

To get the 48 MHz necessary for the LPC214x USB, you must use a crystal 
of 12.0 MHz, 16.0 MHz, or 24.0 MHz.  None of these frequencies are 
mentioned in the manual table 291 that lists the possible ISP baud 
rates with various crystal frequencies.  Can you use serial ISP with 
12/16/24 MHz, and with which baud rates?

Karl Olsen

RE: [lpc2000] LPC214x crystal frequencies

2005-11-17 by Joel Winarske

> To get the 48 MHz necessary for the LPC214x USB, you must use a crystal
> of 12.0 MHz, 16.0 MHz, or 24.0 MHz.  None of these frequencies are
> mentioned in the manual table 291 that lists the possible ISP baud
> rates with various crystal frequencies.  Can you use serial ISP with
> 12/16/24 MHz, and with which baud rates?

At 12MHz the highest the Phillips Flash utility will connect is 38.4k baud.
I cannot connect running a higher baud. 

Joel

RE: LPC214x crystal frequencies

2005-11-17 by Steve Franks

> Message: 25        
>    Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:37:47 -0800
>    From: "Joel Winarske" <joelw@...>
> Subject: RE: LPC214x crystal frequencies
> 
> > To get the 48 MHz necessary for the LPC214x USB, you must 
> use a crystal
> > of 12.0 MHz, 16.0 MHz, or 24.0 MHz.  None of these frequencies are
> > mentioned in the manual table 291 that lists the possible ISP baud
> > rates with various crystal frequencies.  Can you use serial ISP with
> > 12/16/24 MHz, and with which baud rates?
> 
> At 12MHz the highest the Phillips Flash utility will connect 
> is 38.4k baud.
> I cannot connect running a higher baud. 
> 
> Joel

I've been doing serial stuff from some time and this matches my experience.
With an integer-MHz rate, the divisors are such that most all uart chipsets
will work fine up to 38.4k, after that the round-off error is too much for
the chipset to synch up with, which is why you see alot of 7.3828MHz,
14.xxx, and 3.8xx crystals on demo boards.  I do alot of analog->digital
stuff and off-freq's tend to make that nasty (more divisor round-off), so I
just put up with running my uarts a bit slower.  I've noticed alot of
off-shelf devices with serial ports running at 38.4k lately, and I suspect
the same argument applies.  If you grab any of the Atmel AVR datasheets
(i.e. AtMega128) they've done the math for you in the "UART" section to give
exact numbers for %error given a crystal freq and a baudrate/divisor combo.
They state that %err's above 10% are not healthy, but in practice, I've seen
cheap serial ports on Wintel boxes give me garbage with errors as low as 3%.

If you are into that sort of thing, Silicon Lab's CP2102 UART<->USB bridge
will do integer baud rates (i.e. 128.0k instead of 115.2k, up to 1.0M, I
recall) and that can get you up to higher rates if you need to, and give you
usb in a 7mm sq. package.  I think I'm going to go direct to implementing
the usb driver thread that's been going the last few days for new designs
myself...

Steve

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Re: [lpc2000] LPC214x crystal frequencies

2005-11-17 by Ake Hedman, eurosource

Same here.

/Ake

Joel Winarske wrote:

> > To get the 48 MHz necessary for the LPC214x USB, you must use a crystal
> > of 12.0 MHz, 16.0 MHz, or 24.0 MHz.  None of these frequencies are
> > mentioned in the manual table 291 that lists the possible ISP baud
> > rates with various crystal frequencies.  Can you use serial ISP with
> > 12/16/24 MHz, and with which baud rates?
>
> At 12MHz the highest the Phillips Flash utility will connect is 38.4k 
> baud.
> I cannot connect running a higher baud.
>
> Joel
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Re: LPC214x crystal frequencies // ISP max baudrate 38.4 kBaud using 12 MHz

2005-11-17 by philips_apps

All,

based on the algorithm the bootloader uses to determine the 
baudrate, as Joel already found out, it is correct that the max 
baudrate for 12 MHz is 38400 Baud. 

Will do some additional tests to determine the baudrates for 16 MHz 
and 24 MHz but we assume that 12 MHz will be the most used crystal 
as it provides functionality for USB and enables the 60 MHz max. CPU 
speed as well. 

Sorry for not providing the appropriate values in the table for the 
ISP, will update with the next reloease of the Users Manual but that 
might still take a little while. 

Robert

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Joel Winarske" <joelw@i...> wrote:
>
> > To get the 48 MHz necessary for the LPC214x USB, you must use a 
crystal
> > of 12.0 MHz, 16.0 MHz, or 24.0 MHz.  None of these frequencies 
are
> > mentioned in the manual table 291 that lists the possible ISP 
baud
> > rates with various crystal frequencies.  Can you use serial ISP 
with
> > 12/16/24 MHz, and with which baud rates?
> 
> At 12MHz the highest the Phillips Flash utility will connect is 
38.4k baud.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I cannot connect running a higher baud. 
> 
> Joel
>

Re: [lpc2000] Re: LPC214x crystal frequencies // ISP max baudrate 38.4 kBaud using 12 MHz

2005-11-17 by Ake Hedman, eurosource

Robert,

I must say I like the responsiveness of Philips (through you) *a lot*  
on this list. This is exactly what many of us embedded consultants 
really need. Philips has been very low on my "design in" list before. 
Mostly because of the low interest for us who design solutions for 
others but never buy a lot of components ourselves.But I think this is 
about to change.  I hope Philips will be as good as Microchip and others 
on samples and app. notes in he future. You are definitely on the way...

Keep up the good work!!!
/Ake

philips_apps wrote:

> All,
>
> based on the algorithm the bootloader uses to determine the
> baudrate, as Joel already found out, it is correct that the max
> baudrate for 12 MHz is 38400 Baud.
>
> Will do some additional tests to determine the baudrates for 16 MHz
> and 24 MHz but we assume that 12 MHz will be the most used crystal
> as it provides functionality for USB and enables the 60 MHz max. CPU
> speed as well.
>
> Sorry for not providing the appropriate values in the table for the
> ISP, will update with the next reloease of the Users Manual but that
> might still take a little while.
>
> Robert
>
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Joel Winarske" <joelw@i...> wrote:
> >
> > > To get the 48 MHz necessary for the LPC214x USB, you must use a
> crystal
> > > of 12.0 MHz, 16.0 MHz, or 24.0 MHz.  None of these frequencies
> are
> > > mentioned in the manual table 291 that lists the possible ISP
> baud
> > > rates with various crystal frequencies.  Can you use serial ISP
> with
> > > 12/16/24 MHz, and with which baud rates?
> >
> > At 12MHz the highest the Phillips Flash utility will connect is
> 38.4k baud.
> > I cannot connect running a higher baud.
> >
> > Joel
> >
>
>
>
>
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Re: [lpc2000] Re: LPC214x crystal frequencies // ISP max baudrate 38.4 kBaud using 12 MHz

2005-11-17 by Robert Wood

>> I must say I like the responsiveness of Philips (through you) *a lot*
on this list. This is exactly what many of us embedded consultants
really need. Philips has been very low on my "design in" list before.
Mostly because of the low interest for us who design solutions for
others but never buy a lot of components ourselves.But I think this is
about to change.  I hope Philips will be as good as Microchip and others
on samples and app. notes in he future. You are definitely on the way... <<

Yep, things are very different these days. Nearly everything is built in 
the far east, but the designs are still often done in Europe. The 
manufacturers simply have to support small design houses or they 
wouldn't sell silicon!

Re: LPC214x crystal frequencies // ISP max baudrate 38.4 kBaud using 12 MHz

2005-11-17 by seangra

Based on my calculations, 16MHz can only get to 19,200 (7% error at 
38,400) and 24MHz can get 38,400.  If you went up to 48MHz crystal 
you could get 57,600.

-- Sean

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "philips_apps" <philips_apps@y...> 
wrote:
>
> All,
> 
> based on the algorithm the bootloader uses to determine the 
> baudrate, as Joel already found out, it is correct that the max 
> baudrate for 12 MHz is 38400 Baud. 
> 
> Will do some additional tests to determine the baudrates for 16 
MHz 
> and 24 MHz but we assume that 12 MHz will be the most used crystal 
> as it provides functionality for USB and enables the 60 MHz max. 
CPU 
> speed as well. 
> 
> Sorry for not providing the appropriate values in the table for 
the 
> ISP, will update with the next reloease of the Users Manual but 
that 
> might still take a little while. 
> 
> Robert
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Joel Winarske" <joelw@i...> wrote:
> >
> > > To get the 48 MHz necessary for the LPC214x USB, you must use 
a 
> crystal
> > > of 12.0 MHz, 16.0 MHz, or 24.0 MHz.  None of these frequencies 
> are
> > > mentioned in the manual table 291 that lists the possible ISP 
> baud
> > > rates with various crystal frequencies.  Can you use serial 
ISP 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> with
> > > 12/16/24 MHz, and with which baud rates?
> > 
> > At 12MHz the highest the Phillips Flash utility will connect is 
> 38.4k baud.
> > I cannot connect running a higher baud. 
> > 
> > Joel
> >
>

Re: LPC214x crystal frequencies // ISP max baudrate 38.4 kBaud using 12 MHz

2005-11-17 by philips_apps

Confirmed

12 MHz  ->  max baudrate 38400
16 MHz  ->  max baudrate 19200
24 MHz  ->  max baudrate 38400

Robert

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "seangra" <sgraham@o...> wrote:
>
> Based on my calculations, 16MHz can only get to 19,200 (7% error 
at 
> 38,400) and 24MHz can get 38,400.  If you went up to 48MHz crystal 
> you could get 57,600.
> 
> -- Sean
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "philips_apps" <philips_apps@y...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> > 
> > based on the algorithm the bootloader uses to determine the 
> > baudrate, as Joel already found out, it is correct that the max 
> > baudrate for 12 MHz is 38400 Baud. 
> > 
> > Will do some additional tests to determine the baudrates for 16 
> MHz 
> > and 24 MHz but we assume that 12 MHz will be the most used 
crystal 
> > as it provides functionality for USB and enables the 60 MHz max. 
> CPU 
> > speed as well. 
> > 
> > Sorry for not providing the appropriate values in the table for 
> the 
> > ISP, will update with the next reloease of the Users Manual but 
> that 
> > might still take a little while. 
> > 
> > Robert
> > 
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Joel Winarske" <joelw@i...> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > > To get the 48 MHz necessary for the LPC214x USB, you must 
use 
> a 
> > crystal
> > > > of 12.0 MHz, 16.0 MHz, or 24.0 MHz.  None of these 
frequencies 
> > are
> > > > mentioned in the manual table 291 that lists the possible 
ISP 
> > baud
> > > > rates with various crystal frequencies.  Can you use serial 
> ISP 
> > with
> > > > 12/16/24 MHz, and with which baud rates?
> > > 
> > > At 12MHz the highest the Phillips Flash utility will connect 
is 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > 38.4k baud.
> > > I cannot connect running a higher baud. 
> > > 
> > > Joel
> > >
> >
>

Re: [lpc2000] Re: LPC214x crystal frequencies // ISP max baudrate 38.4 kBaud using 12 MHz

2005-11-18 by Martin Maurer

Hi Robert,

is there any plan to use the fractional baudrate generation in the booter,
so you can boot e.g. even at 921 kbit/s with a 12 MHz oscillator ?
Theoretically it should be possible, hardware is supporting it...

Regards,

         Martin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "philips_apps" <philips_apps@...>
To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:12 AM
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC214x crystal frequencies // ISP max baudrate 38.4 
kBaud using 12 MHz
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Confirmed
>
> 12 MHz  ->  max baudrate 38400
> 16 MHz  ->  max baudrate 19200
> 24 MHz  ->  max baudrate 38400
>
> Robert
>
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "seangra" <sgraham@o...> wrote:
>>
>> Based on my calculations, 16MHz can only get to 19,200 (7% error
> at
>> 38,400) and 24MHz can get 38,400.  If you went up to 48MHz crystal
>> you could get 57,600.
>>
>> -- Sean
>>
>> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "philips_apps" <philips_apps@y...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > All,
>> >
>> > based on the algorithm the bootloader uses to determine the
>> > baudrate, as Joel already found out, it is correct that the max
>> > baudrate for 12 MHz is 38400 Baud.
>> >
>> > Will do some additional tests to determine the baudrates for 16
>> MHz
>> > and 24 MHz but we assume that 12 MHz will be the most used
> crystal
>> > as it provides functionality for USB and enables the 60 MHz max.
>> CPU
>> > speed as well.
>> >
>> > Sorry for not providing the appropriate values in the table for
>> the
>> > ISP, will update with the next reloease of the Users Manual but
>> that
>> > might still take a little while.
>> >
>> > Robert
>> >
>> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Joel Winarske" <joelw@i...>
> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > To get the 48 MHz necessary for the LPC214x USB, you must
> use
>> a
>> > crystal
>> > > > of 12.0 MHz, 16.0 MHz, or 24.0 MHz.  None of these
> frequencies
>> > are
>> > > > mentioned in the manual table 291 that lists the possible
> ISP
>> > baud
>> > > > rates with various crystal frequencies.  Can you use serial
>> ISP
>> > with
>> > > > 12/16/24 MHz, and with which baud rates?
>> > >
>> > > At 12MHz the highest the Phillips Flash utility will connect
> is
>> > 38.4k baud.
>> > > I cannot connect running a higher baud.
>> > >
>> > > Joel
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: LPC214x crystal frequencies // ISP max baudrate 38.4 kBaud using 12 MHz

2005-11-18 by philips_apps

Hi Martin,

there are no immediate plans to use the fractional baudrate 
generator because we try to keep the number of different bootloaders 
limited. Also it is very difficult to use the fractional BR 
generator if the frequency of the oscillator is not known.
Last but not least it is not possible to go 921 kbaud with 12 MHz 
because the max serial frequency with or without fractional baudrate 
generator is CPU clock divided by 16 and the bootloader does not 
change the PLL settings.

Regards, Robert

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Maurer" <mailingliste@c...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi Robert,
> 
> is there any plan to use the fractional baudrate generation in the 
booter,
> so you can boot e.g. even at 921 kbit/s with a 12 MHz oscillator ?
> Theoretically it should be possible, hardware is supporting it...
> 
> Regards,
> 
>          Martin
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "philips_apps" <philips_apps@y...>
> To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:12 AM
> Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC214x crystal frequencies // ISP max 
baudrate 38.4 
> kBaud using 12 MHz
> 
> 
> > Confirmed
> >
> > 12 MHz  ->  max baudrate 38400
> > 16 MHz  ->  max baudrate 19200
> > 24 MHz  ->  max baudrate 38400
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "seangra" <sgraham@o...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Based on my calculations, 16MHz can only get to 19,200 (7% error
> > at
> >> 38,400) and 24MHz can get 38,400.  If you went up to 48MHz 
crystal
> >> you could get 57,600.
> >>
> >> -- Sean
> >>
> >> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "philips_apps" 
<philips_apps@y...>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > All,
> >> >
> >> > based on the algorithm the bootloader uses to determine the
> >> > baudrate, as Joel already found out, it is correct that the 
max
> >> > baudrate for 12 MHz is 38400 Baud.
> >> >
> >> > Will do some additional tests to determine the baudrates for 
16
> >> MHz
> >> > and 24 MHz but we assume that 12 MHz will be the most used
> > crystal
> >> > as it provides functionality for USB and enables the 60 MHz 
max.
> >> CPU
> >> > speed as well.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry for not providing the appropriate values in the table 
for
> >> the
> >> > ISP, will update with the next reloease of the Users Manual 
but
> >> that
> >> > might still take a little while.
> >> >
> >> > Robert
> >> >
> >> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Joel Winarske" <joelw@i...>
> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > To get the 48 MHz necessary for the LPC214x USB, you must
> > use
> >> a
> >> > crystal
> >> > > > of 12.0 MHz, 16.0 MHz, or 24.0 MHz.  None of these
> > frequencies
> >> > are
> >> > > > mentioned in the manual table 291 that lists the possible
> > ISP
> >> > baud
> >> > > > rates with various crystal frequencies.  Can you use 
serial
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> >> ISP
> >> > with
> >> > > > 12/16/24 MHz, and with which baud rates?
> >> > >
> >> > > At 12MHz the highest the Phillips Flash utility will connect
> > is
> >> > 38.4k baud.
> >> > > I cannot connect running a higher baud.
> >> > >
> >> > > Joel
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
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Re: LPC214x crystal frequencies // ISP max baudrate 38.4 kBaud using 12 MHz

2005-11-18 by seangra

Considering how we're dealing with flash sizes up to 512KB now, and 
loading that much data at 38.4kbps is significantly slower than 
230kbps, are there any plans to fix this problem?

Or better yet, consdering the speed, are there any plans to create a 
USB-based bootloader?  Doesn't the SAM7S have this already?

Additionally since there are some chips (FTDI comes to mind) that 
allow a WIDE range of baud rates, is it possible to use the current 
bootloader with a nonstandard baud rate?  I.e. 12MHz can generate 
187.5kbps with the same settings that 14.5796MHz uses to generate 
230kbps.  I know the FTDI chip can handle 187.5kbps.

-- Sean

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "philips_apps" <philips_apps@y...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
> 
> there are no immediate plans to use the fractional baudrate 
> generator because we try to keep the number of different 
bootloaders 
> limited. Also it is very difficult to use the fractional BR 
> generator if the frequency of the oscillator is not known.
> Last but not least it is not possible to go 921 kbaud with 12 MHz 
> because the max serial frequency with or without fractional 
baudrate 
> generator is CPU clock divided by 16 and the bootloader does not 
> change the PLL settings.
> 
> Regards, Robert
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Maurer" 
<mailingliste@c...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Robert,
> > 
> > is there any plan to use the fractional baudrate generation in 
the 
> booter,
> > so you can boot e.g. even at 921 kbit/s with a 12 MHz 
oscillator ?
> > Theoretically it should be possible, hardware is supporting it...
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >          Martin
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "philips_apps" <philips_apps@y...>
> > To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:12 AM
> > Subject: [lpc2000] Re: LPC214x crystal frequencies // ISP max 
> baudrate 38.4 
> > kBaud using 12 MHz
> > 
> > 
> > > Confirmed
> > >
> > > 12 MHz  ->  max baudrate 38400
> > > 16 MHz  ->  max baudrate 19200
> > > 24 MHz  ->  max baudrate 38400
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "seangra" <sgraham@o...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Based on my calculations, 16MHz can only get to 19,200 (7% 
error
> > > at
> > >> 38,400) and 24MHz can get 38,400.  If you went up to 48MHz 
> crystal
> > >> you could get 57,600.
> > >>
> > >> -- Sean
> > >>
> > >> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "philips_apps" 
> <philips_apps@y...>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > All,
> > >> >
> > >> > based on the algorithm the bootloader uses to determine the
> > >> > baudrate, as Joel already found out, it is correct that the 
> max
> > >> > baudrate for 12 MHz is 38400 Baud.
> > >> >
> > >> > Will do some additional tests to determine the baudrates 
for 
> 16
> > >> MHz
> > >> > and 24 MHz but we assume that 12 MHz will be the most used
> > > crystal
> > >> > as it provides functionality for USB and enables the 60 MHz 
> max.
> > >> CPU
> > >> > speed as well.
> > >> >
> > >> > Sorry for not providing the appropriate values in the table 
> for
> > >> the
> > >> > ISP, will update with the next reloease of the Users Manual 
> but
> > >> that
> > >> > might still take a little while.
> > >> >
> > >> > Robert
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> > >> > > At 12MHz the highest the Phillips Flash utility will 
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Power consumption LPC214x

2005-11-18 by Marko Pavlin (home)

Hello!

Datasheet 
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat_download/datasheets/LPC2141_42_44_46_48_1.pdf 
has <TBD> tag for active mode supply current. Has anyone measured this 
on LPC214x device?

Are there any very low power ARM7 microcontrollers available (other than 
philips), or are those two words a paradox (low-power and ARM7)?

Mare

Re: Power consumption LPC214x

2005-11-18 by slawcus

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Marko Pavlin (home)" <mp@h...> wrote:
>
> Hello!
> 
> Datasheet 
>
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat_download/datasheets/LPC2141_42_44_46_48_1.pdf

> has <TBD> tag for active mode supply current. Has anyone measured this 
> on LPC214x device?
> 
> Are there any very low power ARM7 microcontrollers available (other
than 
> philips), or are those two words a paradox (low-power and ARM7)?
> 
> Mare
>


Define very low power. 

I just measured RTC consumption.  It's same as LPC2138s.

I don't like just two power saving modes, no additional cclk division,
 sub MHz PLL, etc. These are things that can help to reduce
consumption in some applications.

Re: [lpc2000] Re: Power consumption LPC214x

2005-11-18 by Marko Pavlin (home)

>
>
> Define very low power.
>
"Ultralowpower" would be something in MSP430 range (not ARM core), or 
close to 1mA in active mode / sub-100uA in kinda active mode with fast 
wakeup (via some software /internal periphery interrupt).

"Verylowpower" is, let's say 10 times higher than above.

Mare

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