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How is the best IDE?

2005-12-29 by André "Away" Rairan.

Hi,

I'm from Brazil and i starting to study de ARM processor.

How is the best IDE to ARM development?
How is the best (more apropriated) chip to start my study?

Thaks

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André "Away" Rairan.


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Re: How is the best IDE?

2005-12-29 by rtstofer

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, André "Away" Rairan. <a.rairan@g...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I'm from Brazil and i starting to study de ARM processor.
> 
> How is the best IDE to ARM development?

Maybe not 'best' but 'free' is good so check out the tutorial here
http://www.olimex.com/dev/pdf/ARM%20Cross%20Development%20with%
20Eclipse%20version%203.pdf  There are problems with the JTAG 
debugging but it does work, sort of.  I didn't have enough pins left 
to support JTAG so I really don't care if the free OCD Remote works, 
or not.

> How is the best (more apropriated) chip to start my study?

If you don't have specific project goals and you don't need A/D then 
the LPC2106 is pretty nice.  I like the Olimex boards so check out 
www.sparkfun.com and consider any of these Development Boards -> LPC 
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php?
cPath=2_25&osCsid=b9ddaec7d2d3f39653583caf3ef98a8a

Specifically, I am using the LPC2106 Prototyping Board and it works 
pretty well http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?
products_id=269&osCsid=b9ddaec7d2d3f39653583caf3ef98a8a

You do not need to buy the JTAG interface if you don't plan to use 
it for debugging.  The built in serial ISP works very well and uses 
the RS232 port.

So, for the LPC2106, $60 plus shipping.  Pretty reasonable for a 32 
bit chip with 128k flash and 64k ram.

Richard

Re: [lpc2000] Re: How is the best IDE?

2005-12-29 by André "Away" Rairan.

Thanks for reply!

Have you used the KEIL or IAR compiler?
How is the best?



2005/12/29, rtstofer <rstofer@...>:
>
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, André "Away" Rairan. <a.rairan@g...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm from Brazil and i starting to study de ARM processor.
> >
> > How is the best IDE to ARM development?
>
> Maybe not 'best' but 'free' is good so check out the tutorial here
> http://www.olimex.com/dev/pdf/ARM%20Cross%20Development%20with%<http://www.olimex.com/dev/pdf/ARM%20Cross%20Development%20with%25>
> 20Eclipse%20version%203.pdf  There are problems with the JTAG
> debugging but it does work, sort of.  I didn't have enough pins left
> to support JTAG so I really don't care if the free OCD Remote works,
> or not.
>
> > How is the best (more apropriated) chip to start my study?
>
> If you don't have specific project goals and you don't need A/D then
> the LPC2106 is pretty nice.  I like the Olimex boards so check out
> www.sparkfun.com and consider any of these Development Boards -> LPC
> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php?
> cPath=2_25&osCsid=b9ddaec7d2d3f39653583caf3ef98a8a
>
> Specifically, I am using the LPC2106 Prototyping Board and it works
> pretty well http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?
> products_id=269&osCsid=b9ddaec7d2d3f39653583caf3ef98a8a
>
> You do not need to buy the JTAG interface if you don't plan to use
> it for debugging.  The built in serial ISP works very well and uses
> the RS232 port.
>
> So, for the LPC2106, $60 plus shipping.  Pretty reasonable for a 32
> bit chip with 128k flash and 64k ram.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Atenciosamente,
André "Away" Rairan.


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Re: How is the best IDE?

2005-12-30 by rtstofer

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, André "Away" Rairan. <a.rairan@g...> 
wrote:
>
> Thanks for reply!
> 
> Have you used the KEIL or IAR compiler?

Nope, as indicated in the tutorial, GNU C and the rest of the tool 
chain is free.  This would be the same GNU C I use on Linux, the 
gumstix (Linux on XScale), Atmel AVRs and the LPC2106.

Opinions vary but I really like the Eclipse IDE.  I like their concept 
of projects and I like the way they are organized.  I also like the 
fact that the required tools are completely integrated.  And it's free!

I really can't spend money on development tools for what is just a 
hobby.

Richard

Re: How is the best IDE?

2005-12-30 by lpc2100_fan

Hi,

tested Keil, IAR and Rowleys.  Keil, is easiest to use, followed by
Rowleys, then IAR. Keil has the best simulator. IAR seems a little
more stable and once you are familiar with the linker files, handling
is OK. Rowley is easy to use but for the programs we tested (mostly in
Thumb mode) both IAR and Keil generated quite a bit smaller code. When
compiling for speed in ARM mode, IAR was the best of these 3, Keil and
Rowleys similar with Keil having a little smaller code. 

All 3 compilers can be recommended as professional tools with good
debugging support. 

In regards to which device you should start with, I would recommend
the LPC2148 unless you need more than 512k code.

Cheers, Bob
-- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, André "Away" Rairan. <a.rairan@g...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for reply!
> 
> Have you used the KEIL or IAR compiler?
> How is the best?
> 
> 
> 
> 2005/12/29, rtstofer <rstofer@p...>:
> >
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, André "Away" Rairan. <a.rairan@g...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm from Brazil and i starting to study de ARM processor.
> > >
> > > How is the best IDE to ARM development?
> >
> > Maybe not 'best' but 'free' is good so check out the tutorial here
> >
http://www.olimex.com/dev/pdf/ARM%20Cross%20Development%20with%<http://www.olimex.com/dev/pdf/ARM%20Cross%20Development%20with%25>
> > 20Eclipse%20version%203.pdf  There are problems with the JTAG
> > debugging but it does work, sort of.  I didn't have enough pins left
> > to support JTAG so I really don't care if the free OCD Remote works,
> > or not.
> >
> > > How is the best (more apropriated) chip to start my study?
> >
> > If you don't have specific project goals and you don't need A/D then
> > the LPC2106 is pretty nice.  I like the Olimex boards so check out
> > www.sparkfun.com and consider any of these Development Boards -> LPC
> > http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php?
> > cPath=2_25&osCsid=b9ddaec7d2d3f39653583caf3ef98a8a
> >
> > Specifically, I am using the LPC2106 Prototyping Board and it works
> > pretty well http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?
> > products_id=269&osCsid=b9ddaec7d2d3f39653583caf3ef98a8a
> >
> > You do not need to buy the JTAG interface if you don't plan to use
> > it for debugging.  The built in serial ISP works very well and uses
> > the RS232 port.
> >
> > So, for the LPC2106, $60 plus shipping.  Pretty reasonable for a 32
> > bit chip with 128k flash and 64k ram.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > SPONSORED LINKS
> >  
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> >
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> Atenciosamente,
> André "Away" Rairan.
> 
> 
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Re: [lpc2000] Re: How is the best IDE?

2005-12-30 by Xtian Xultz

If you want starter kits in Brazil, take a look at Elasys, I am working right 
now with a development kit with LPC2106. In my opinion, they have very good 
prices. 
Anacom have other kits with LPC2106, but a little more expensive. Elasys and 
Anacom are in São Paulo. 
Here in Curitiba, eSysTech works with starter kits for ARM, but only Atmel 
chips. But is another good choice too.

Em Qui 29 Dez 2005 21:24, André "Away" Rairan. escreveu:
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> Thanks for reply!
>
> Have you used the KEIL or IAR compiler?
> How is the best?
>
> 2005/12/29, rtstofer <rstofer@...>:
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, André "Away" Rairan. <a.rairan@g...>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm from Brazil and i starting to study de ARM processor.
> > >
> > > How is the best IDE to ARM development?

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