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help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-06 by Frantz Robinson

Everyone, 

I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in order. 

I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from all
your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for active
experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs in
the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and especially
Philips's incarnation of it.  

I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
responsibility to help market these parts for a large global distributor
(Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here to
help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come up
with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and we have
been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that this is
closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights to
help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are a lot
of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no sense
in re-inventing the wheel. 

So my question to you is:

 

To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be designed;
what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any, form
factor, etc, etc should it support? 

 

What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )

 

How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it allow
you to create?)

 

To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw 5
winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
Future Electronics and Philips. 

 

Thank you 

 

Best Regards

 

Frantz Robinson,

Technical Marketing Manager

Philips Technical Champion
FUTURE ELECTRONICS INC 
237 Hymus blvd., Pointe-Claire, Quebec, H9R 5C7 
 

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Re: [lpc2000] help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-06 by Marko Pavlin (home)

My 5c:

Just make BGA to DIL conversion board with mini USB connector, xtal, 
vreg and filter cap's.

M.


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> Everyone,
>
> I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in order.
>
> I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from all
> your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for active
> experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs in
> the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and especially
> Philips's incarnation of it. 
>
> I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
> responsibility to help market these parts for a large global distributor
> (Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here to
> help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come up
> with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and we have
> been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that this is
> closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights to
> help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are a lot
> of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
> worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no sense
> in re-inventing the wheel.
>
> So my question to you is:
>
>
>
> To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be designed;
> what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any, form
> factor, etc, etc should it support?
>
>
>
> What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
> proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )
>
>
>
> How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it allow
> you to create?)
>
>
>
> To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw 5
> winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
> Future Electronics and Philips.
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> Frantz Robinson,
>
> Technical Marketing Manager
>
> Philips Technical Champion
> FUTURE ELECTRONICS INC
> 237 Hymus blvd., Pointe-Claire, Quebec, H9R 5C7
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Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-06 by fordp2002

Check out www.olimex.com, I like those boards.

Also see http://www.rowley.co.uk/crossfire/crossfire_lm3s102.htm

That is a great board to me.

But use an FTDI chip for JTAG debugging and OpenOCD for debugging instead.

A board like above, WinARM, OpenOCD, Eclipse & CDT, a header file,
linker scipts and demos program and you will have a truly great demo
baord package.

I am designing something very simalar for the LPC2103.

Number 1 is to keep it simple and make it easy to tag on extra target
hardware.

I will let you know where to send my free board later ;)

Come to think of it, I am known to Future already so you should know
where to send it.

If you need more detailed help let me know.


All the best.

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
<frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
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>
> Everyone, 
> 
> I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in order. 
> 
> I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from all
> your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for active
> experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs in
> the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and especially
> Philips's incarnation of it.  
> 
> I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
> responsibility to help market these parts for a large global distributor
> (Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here to
> help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come up
> with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and we have
> been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that this is
> closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights to
> help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are a lot
> of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
> worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no sense
> in re-inventing the wheel. 
> 
> So my question to you is:
> 
>  
> 
> To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be designed;
> what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any, form
> factor, etc, etc should it support? 
> 
>  
> 
> What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
> proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )
> 
>  
> 
> How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it allow
> you to create?)
> 
>  
> 
> To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw 5
> winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
> Future Electronics and Philips. 
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you 
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards
> 
>  
> 
> Frantz Robinson,
> 
> Technical Marketing Manager
> 
> Philips Technical Champion
> FUTURE ELECTRONICS INC 
> 237 Hymus blvd., Pointe-Claire, Quebec, H9R 5C7 
>  
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Re: [lpc2000] help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-06 by K B Shah-lascaux

Be sure to have interface for USB, RS-232, JTAG, I2C and CAN...
Good to have Connector for all unused pins and / or GPIO  and/OR Ext. memory interface  on connecotr for easy connectivity...
A pa package : good to have cheapest debugging software --like GCC/Insight  Win/Linux version with Wiggler clone  which can work with  it. Functionility first and speed of debugger after...

k b
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----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frantz Robinson 
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  Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:31 AM
  Subject: [lpc2000] help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!


  Everyone, 

  I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in order. 

  I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from all
  your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for active
  experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs in
  the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and especially
  Philips's incarnation of it.  

  I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
  responsibility to help market these parts for a large global distributor
  (Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here to
  help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come up
  with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and we have
  been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that this is
  closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights to
  help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are a lot
  of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
  worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no sense
  in re-inventing the wheel. 

  So my question to you is:



  To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be designed;
  what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any, form
  factor, etc, etc should it support? 



  What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
  proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )



  How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it allow
  you to create?)



  To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw 5
  winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
  Future Electronics and Philips. 



  Thank you 



  Best Regards



  Frantz Robinson,

  Technical Marketing Manager

  Philips Technical Champion
  FUTURE ELECTRONICS INC 
  237 Hymus blvd., Pointe-Claire, Quebec, H9R 5C7 


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Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-06 by bigakisgr

I preffer identical in size "sub-boards"/modules in a larger board,
connected through jumper cables. A plus is the possibility to separate
(break) the modules and stack them, or leave them apart if not needed.
The initial setup could contain a 6 Modules:CPU Module,Power Supply
module, RS232+USB module,RAM/Flash module,LCD Module,Keys+LED module.
I like this design because it helps me focus to specific parts when
learning the architecture, and when i am familiar i can easily extend
the kit or use the CPU module to test a completely new design.


--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
<frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Everyone, 
> 
> I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in order. 
> 
> I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from all
> your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for active
> experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs in
> the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and especially
> Philips's incarnation of it.  
> 
> I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
> responsibility to help market these parts for a large global distributor
> (Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here to
> help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come up
> with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and we have
> been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that this is
> closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights to
> help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are a lot
> of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
> worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no sense
> in re-inventing the wheel. 
> 
> So my question to you is:
> 
>  
> 
> To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be designed;
> what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any, form
> factor, etc, etc should it support? 
> 
>  
> 
> What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
> proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )
> 
>  
> 
> How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it allow
> you to create?)
> 
>  
> 
> To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw 5
> winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
> Future Electronics and Philips. 
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you 
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards
> 
>  
> 
> Frantz Robinson,
> 
> Technical Marketing Manager
> 
> Philips Technical Champion
> FUTURE ELECTRONICS INC 
> 237 Hymus blvd., Pointe-Claire, Quebec, H9R 5C7 
>  
> 
> The information in this transmission contains information that is
> confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or
> entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the
> intended recipient please delete it and immediately notify the sender.
> If the purpose of this transmission is to provide a quotation or to
> confirm or acknowledge an order or to provide information in relation to
> the Products and Services offered, unless otherwise agreed in writing,
> the FUTURE ELECTRONICS TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SALE exclusively govern
> the sale of Products and the provision of services by Future Electronics
> Inc. and its divisions, subsidiaries and affiliates and take precedence
> over supplemental or conflicting terms and conditions to which notice of
> objection is hereby given. The FUTURE ELECTRONICS TERMS AND CONDITIONS
> OF SALE are available at  <http://www.futureelectronics.com/>
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> slips, order acknowledgements or other method. 
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RE: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-06 by Frantz Robinson

I like that idea. 
I was also considering another popular format with a larger (cheap)
2-layer board with all the I/O interfaces , regulators etc, and a small
(not so cheap) 4 or 6 layer removable daughtercard for the CPU, core
logic and memory, since you need that many layers for the BGA's anyways.
I've seen a few like that using SO-DIMM connectors for the "core" card,
but I'm not sure how many people feel comfortable prototyping their own
system card with the SO-DIMM interface on it. Any opinions on that ?

 
Thanks
 
Frantz R

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bigakisgr [mailto:bigakisgr@...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:03 PM
> To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can
get
> one free!
> 
> I preffer identical in size "sub-boards"/modules in a larger board,
> connected through jumper cables. A plus is the possibility to separate
> (break) the modules and stack them, or leave them apart if not needed.
> The initial setup could contain a 6 Modules:CPU Module,Power Supply
> module, RS232+USB module,RAM/Flash module,LCD Module,Keys+LED module.
> I like this design because it helps me focus to specific parts when
> learning the architecture, and when i am familiar i can easily extend
> the kit or use the CPU module to test a completely new design.
> 
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
> <frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
> >
> > Everyone,
> >
> > I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in order.
> >
> > I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from all
> > your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for
active
> > experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs
in
> > the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and
especially
> > Philips's incarnation of it.
> >
> > I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
> > responsibility to help market these parts for a large global
distributor
> > (Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here
to
> > help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come
up
> > with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and we
have
> > been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that this
is
> > closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights to
> > help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are a
lot
> > of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
> > worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no
sense
> > in re-inventing the wheel.
> >
> > So my question to you is:
> >
> >
> >
> > To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be
designed;
> > what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any, form
> > factor, etc, etc should it support?
> >
> >
> >
> > What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
> > proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )
> >
> >
> >
> > How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it
allow
> > you to create?)
> >
> >
> >
> > To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw 5
> > winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
> > Future Electronics and Philips.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Frantz Robinson,
> >
> > Technical Marketing Manager
> >
> > Philips Technical Champion
> > FUTURE ELECTRONICS INC
> > 237 Hymus blvd., Pointe-Claire, Quebec, H9R 5C7
> >
> >
> > The information in this transmission contains information that is
> > confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or
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sender.
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relation to
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writing,
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Electronics
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precedence
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notice of
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CONDITIONS
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Re: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-06 by K B Shah-lascaux

Look at Phytech boards .
They are exactly like  that i.e. a common Main board with all Jazz of connectors and power supply and dotter board  connector for different CPUs....
Two boards ... it will be an extra cost for developer in the sens that enduser will use one or two controller... for business ... good idea  to have two modules like that so only need to develop dotter board for each CPU...

KB
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frantz Robinson 
  To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:13 PM
  Subject: RE: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!


  I like that idea. 
  I was also considering another popular format with a larger (cheap)
  2-layer board with all the I/O interfaces , regulators etc, and a small
  (not so cheap) 4 or 6 layer removable daughtercard for the CPU, core
  logic and memory, since you need that many layers for the BGA's anyways.
  I've seen a few like that using SO-DIMM connectors for the "core" card,
  but I'm not sure how many people feel comfortable prototyping their own
  system card with the SO-DIMM interface on it. Any opinions on that ?


  Thanks

  Frantz R

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: bigakisgr [mailto:bigakisgr@...]
  > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:03 PM
  > To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can
  get
  > one free!
  > 
  > I preffer identical in size "sub-boards"/modules in a larger board,
  > connected through jumper cables. A plus is the possibility to separate
  > (break) the modules and stack them, or leave them apart if not needed.
  > The initial setup could contain a 6 Modules:CPU Module,Power Supply
  > module, RS232+USB module,RAM/Flash module,LCD Module,Keys+LED module.
  > I like this design because it helps me focus to specific parts when
  > learning the architecture, and when i am familiar i can easily extend
  > the kit or use the CPU module to test a completely new design.
  > 
  > 
  > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
  > <frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
  > >
  > > Everyone,
  > >
  > > I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in order.
  > >
  > > I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from all
  > > your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for
  active
  > > experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs
  in
  > > the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and
  especially
  > > Philips's incarnation of it.
  > >
  > > I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
  > > responsibility to help market these parts for a large global
  distributor
  > > (Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here
  to
  > > help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come
  up
  > > with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and we
  have
  > > been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that this
  is
  > > closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights to
  > > help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are a
  lot
  > > of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
  > > worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no
  sense
  > > in re-inventing the wheel.
  > >
  > > So my question to you is:
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be
  designed;
  > > what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any, form
  > > factor, etc, etc should it support?
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
  > > proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it
  allow
  > > you to create?)
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw 5
  > > winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
  > > Future Electronics and Philips.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Thank you
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Best Regards
  > >
  > >
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  > > Frantz Robinson,
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Re: [lpc2000] help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-06 by Ricardo Wiggers

Hi.

The LPC2888  is quite interesting for it, even more due to the hi-speed 
usb...
I like to have an FPGA next to the MCU. Since Future works with ALTERA 
also, it seems pretty interesting to place a memory mapped FPGA in the 
devel board, like a Cyclone or MAXII.
Regarding the board itsel, just bring IO to a pin header, and place in 
the devel board just the needed parts, like power, USB, ext memory and 
the FPGA. An optional main board with some extra toys, like LEDs, 
buttons, level converters, char LCD, pot for the AD,  maybe even a power 
H-bridge would be interesting.

Ricardo

Frantz Robinson escreveu:
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>Everyone, 
>
>I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in order. 
>
>I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from all
>your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for active
>experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs in
>the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and especially
>Philips's incarnation of it.  
>
>I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
>responsibility to help market these parts for a large global distributor
>(Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here to
>help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come up
>with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and we have
>been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that this is
>closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights to
>help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are a lot
>of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
>worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no sense
>in re-inventing the wheel. 
>
>So my question to you is:
>
> 
>
>To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be designed;
>what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any, form
>factor, etc, etc should it support? 
>
> 
>
>What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
>proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )
>
> 
>
>How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it allow
>you to create?)
>
> 
>
>To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw 5
>winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
>Future Electronics and Philips. 
>
> 
>
>Thank you 
>
> 
>
>Best Regards
>
> 
>
>Frantz Robinson,
>
>Technical Marketing Manager
>
>Philips Technical Champion
>FUTURE ELECTRONICS INC 
>237 Hymus blvd., Pointe-Claire, Quebec, H9R 5C7 
> 
>
>The information in this transmission contains information that is
>confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or
>entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the
>intended recipient please delete it and immediately notify the sender.
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>the Products and Services offered, unless otherwise agreed in writing,
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>Inc. and its divisions, subsidiaries and affiliates and take precedence
>over supplemental or conflicting terms and conditions to which notice of
>objection is hereby given. The FUTURE ELECTRONICS TERMS AND CONDITIONS
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Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-06 by frankdejonge99

I guess that's the way to go since the biggest problem for small
manufacturers is in the 0.5mm BGA. This is not an easy chip to start
building your own product with...having a doughterbord with all
peripherals accessible could help a lot.
It's a trend in embedded PC's too where formfactors like ETX en DIMM
connector-based dougther boards are more frequently used these days.
Even in commercial products. Minor problem in this case: there's no
standard like in ETX.
As for the IO/motherboard, besides all available peripherals on the
LPC2888 it should have an ethernetcontroller(pref. 10/100). A
starterkit/evalboard can not be taken seriously without it (but that's
my opinion...)
Besides this, an evaluation board is as good as the software that
comes with it. If you want something unique, include some unique
software! There's a lot of good open source stuff available, so the
trick should be in composing a good packedge and adding some useful
drivers and documentation.

Good luck,
Frank




--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
<frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
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>
> I like that idea. 
> I was also considering another popular format with a larger (cheap)
> 2-layer board with all the I/O interfaces , regulators etc, and a small
> (not so cheap) 4 or 6 layer removable daughtercard for the CPU, core
> logic and memory, since you need that many layers for the BGA's anyways.
> I've seen a few like that using SO-DIMM connectors for the "core" card,
> but I'm not sure how many people feel comfortable prototyping their own
> system card with the SO-DIMM interface on it. Any opinions on that ?
> 
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Frantz R
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bigakisgr [mailto:bigakisgr@...]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:03 PM
> > To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can
> get
> > one free!
> > 
> > I preffer identical in size "sub-boards"/modules in a larger board,
> > connected through jumper cables. A plus is the possibility to separate
> > (break) the modules and stack them, or leave them apart if not needed.
> > The initial setup could contain a 6 Modules:CPU Module,Power Supply
> > module, RS232+USB module,RAM/Flash module,LCD Module,Keys+LED module.
> > I like this design because it helps me focus to specific parts when
> > learning the architecture, and when i am familiar i can easily extend
> > the kit or use the CPU module to test a completely new design.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
> > <frantz.robinson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Everyone,
> > >
> > > I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in order.
> > >
> > > I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from all
> > > your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for
> active
> > > experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs
> in
> > > the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and
> especially
> > > Philips's incarnation of it.
> > >
> > > I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
> > > responsibility to help market these parts for a large global
> distributor
> > > (Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here
> to
> > > help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come
> up
> > > with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and we
> have
> > > been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that this
> is
> > > closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights to
> > > help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are a
> lot
> > > of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
> > > worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no
> sense
> > > in re-inventing the wheel.
> > >
> > > So my question to you is:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be
> designed;
> > > what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any, form
> > > factor, etc, etc should it support?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
> > > proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it
> allow
> > > you to create?)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw 5
> > > winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
> > > Future Electronics and Philips.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Frantz Robinson,
> > >
> > > Technical Marketing Manager
> > >
> > > Philips Technical Champion
> > > FUTURE ELECTRONICS INC
> > > 237 Hymus blvd., Pointe-Claire, Quebec, H9R 5C7
> > >
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> relation to
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> writing,
> > > the FUTURE ELECTRONICS TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SALE exclusively
> govern
> > > the sale of Products and the provision of services by Future
> Electronics
> > > Inc. and its divisions, subsidiaries and affiliates and take
> precedence
> > > over supplemental or conflicting terms and conditions to which
> notice of
> > > objection is hereby given. The FUTURE ELECTRONICS TERMS AND
> CONDITIONS
> > > OF SALE are available at  <http://www.futureelectronics.com/>
> > > www.futureelectronics.com and may be provided on invoices, packing
> > > slips, order acknowledgements or other method.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>

Re: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-06 by nic@weartronics.com

Hi fordp2002,

Board space is very cheap for the manufacturer compared to the component 
cost (and placing of components). It would be nice route all ports to 
DIL 0.1" pitch headers in GPIO pin sequential order, and ALSO route the 
special function pins to SIL 0.1" pitch headers grouped by function 
(like the Olimex boards). It would not be necessary to populate both 
sets of headers, but this gives the user great flexibility with little 
extra expense (I still don't see this on many boards). Also, if it's not 
economical to include FPGA etc... etc... on the same board, include 
unpopulated daughterboard(s) which snap off the end of the main board 
and stack on the DIL headers to offer this functionality. The user just 
needs to populate the snap-off, the cost of the board space for the 
manufacturer is very little. This is used by Microchip on some PIC eval 
boards and solves the problem of the user buying a massive eval system 
because they required one feature.

Kind regards,

Nic

fordp2002 wrote:
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>Check out www.olimex.com, I like those boards.
>
>Also see http://www.rowley.co.uk/crossfire/crossfire_lm3s102.htm
>
>That is a great board to me.
>
>But use an FTDI chip for JTAG debugging and OpenOCD for debugging instead.
>
>A board like above, WinARM, OpenOCD, Eclipse & CDT, a header file,
>linker scipts and demos program and you will have a truly great demo
>baord package.
>
>I am designing something very simalar for the LPC2103.
>
>Number 1 is to keep it simple and make it easy to tag on extra target
>hardware.
>
>I will let you know where to send my free board later ;)
>
>Come to think of it, I am known to Future already so you should know
>where to send it.
>
>If you need more detailed help let me know.
>
>
>All the best.
>
>--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
><frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
>  
>
>>Everyone, 
>>
>>I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in order. 
>>
>>I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from all
>>your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for active
>>experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs in
>>the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and especially
>>Philips's incarnation of it.  
>>
>>I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
>>responsibility to help market these parts for a large global distributor
>>(Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here to
>>help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come up
>>with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and we have
>>been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that this is
>>closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights to
>>help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are a lot
>>of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
>>worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no sense
>>in re-inventing the wheel. 
>>
>>So my question to you is:
>>
>> 
>>
>>To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be designed;
>>what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any, form
>>factor, etc, etc should it support? 
>>
>> 
>>
>>What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
>>proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )
>>
>> 
>>
>>How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it allow
>>you to create?)
>>
>> 
>>
>>To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw 5
>>winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
>>Future Electronics and Philips. 
>>
>> 
>>
>>Thank you 
>>
>> 
>>
>>Best Regards
>>
>> 
>>
>>Frantz Robinson,
>>
>>Technical Marketing Manager
>>
>>Philips Technical Champion
>>FUTURE ELECTRONICS INC 
>>237 Hymus blvd., Pointe-Claire, Quebec, H9R 5C7 
>> 
>>
>>The information in this transmission contains information that is
>>confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or
>>entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the
>>intended recipient please delete it and immediately notify the sender.
>>If the purpose of this transmission is to provide a quotation or to
>>confirm or acknowledge an order or to provide information in relation to
>>the Products and Services offered, unless otherwise agreed in writing,
>>the FUTURE ELECTRONICS TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SALE exclusively govern
>>the sale of Products and the provision of services by Future Electronics
>>Inc. and its divisions, subsidiaries and affiliates and take precedence
>>over supplemental or conflicting terms and conditions to which notice of
>>objection is hereby given. The FUTURE ELECTRONICS TERMS AND CONDITIONS
>>OF SALE are available at  <http://www.futureelectronics.com/>
>>www.futureelectronics.com and may be provided on invoices, packing
>>slips, order acknowledgements or other method. 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>

Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-06 by bhorst

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
<frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
>... come up with unique demo boards for key technologies like the
LPC2K ...

The biggest problem I have is that I need to design interface logic,
motor control, etc. that does not have to be redone every time Philips
comes out with a cool new part.  It makes sense for me to design a
simple interface PCB, but I want that to work with current and future
Philips demo boards.

So I want the Philips board to have a connector that will be standard
for the whole family and last for more than one generation, so that
when I finally get my proto fully working, I can just order the latest
new Philips board to try it out, then quickly put it all together for
the final product.

That means the Philips board should have things like the USB connector
and any other interfaces specific to the processor, but bring all of
the pins to the standard connector.

For an example, see the Silicon Labs F120 board.  It has a 96 pin
connector with all of the pins, but has its own regulator, serial
connector, etc.  If that connector and pinout was standard, the next
board or others in the family might have a display or USB or whatever,
but I would not need to change my interface board to try them.

This method also lets me build two interface boards and buy two proto
boards.  Then when there is a problem, I can very quickly isolate to
find out which is at fault.

The 96 pin connector may not be the best one to use, but picking some
standard that is not too hard to route to (probably through hole)
would work.

You could provide a few mating boards, say with extra memory, proto
areas or even FPGAs.  Others might find them useful although I would
probably keep designing my own.

-- Bob

Re: [lpc2000] help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-07 by Alex Butler

My 2p worth :-)

If you go for the LPC2888 or similar

---

* Consider multi-footprinting the PCB (or connectorize) for different MMC/SD card interfaces

* Consider sticking a USB-based battery recharging circuit on it to enable true demo of battery-based operation - always a nice touch.

* Since many people often use demo/eval boards for quick prototyping - consider if some "pretty" external case/box to enclose the eval board can be made available at a low cost - useful to cleanly "box" the eval board for end user demo's - e.g. customers may also cut holes to hang LCD screens, buttons, connectors, LED's or touch sensors etc etc.  One could create a family of eval boards with similar board profiles and have as extras - a set of pre-moulded cases to encase potential customer prototypes - this might make it attractive to customers wondering how they will eventually present concept demos to 3rd parties without expending effort on their own custom box or a lash-up standard catalog box.   Alternatively, make the eval/demo board actually fit some well-known brand of prototype case/box!  Also helps protect any hand-soldered wires/circuitry in prototype areas from damage when transporting or moving eval/demo boards.  Prototypes/experimental test boards will often have lots of loose wires :-)

* Allow any peripheral/memory add-ons which are supplied as "built onto" the board to be easily "removeable" - for example by clear and accessible places marked to cut tracks etc  - I have spent many a time with eval boards "removing" "unwanted" components (like eval boards with 5 different non-volatile memory options (FLASH, EEPROM etc etc).

* Provide an easy place to monitor board power consumption of different peripherals and (for example) the processor alone etc.  E.g. incorporate test links which can be removed so one can measure the approximate "power consumption" of the processor without including (for example) the RS232 drivers/transeiver chips.  Sometimes people like to check (approximate) processor consumption at different modes/frequencies of operation etc.  It's going to be approximate since the pins will be waggling other peripherals and/or be waggled by external peripherals etc.

* If expansion connectors are provided to get hold of lots of I/O pins etc - please don't make the connectors some ridiculously highly-priced ultra high density ones.  On certain DSP eval boards I've used these are extortionate - especially if you only want to hook to 2 or 3 lines.

* Have plenty of nice big ground (0V) test pins/loops/points all over the board - for oscilloscope ground clips to clip to.  People will often be wanting to look at signals on the boards with scope probes and need something big enough to clip those pesky ground clips to!

* If space permits - provide a white silkscreen "label" patch (area) near to I/O pin breakouts/connectors etc - so people can just write on these areas with a permanent pen - so I can label physical pins with my own "logical" signal names.   For example, I might want to write "Audio IN" on a pin connected to an A/D convertor or I might want to write "SYNC" on an output I/O pin I've configured as a sync output.  It just makes life easier for people to develop and debug boards with.

* Consider adding a footprint for or an actual capacitive or other touch sensor interface (e.g. Synaptics) - because it's "cool" :-)

---

Plenty more ideas... but it's a start towards my dream eval/demo board :-)

Cheers,

-- Alex Butler

alex (-at-) ewinkle (-dot-) com
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frantz Robinson 
  To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:31 PM
  Subject: [lpc2000] help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!


  Everyone, 

  I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in order. 

  I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from all
  your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for active
  experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs in
  the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and especially
  Philips's incarnation of it.  

  I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
  responsibility to help market these parts for a large global distributor
  (Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here to
  help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come up
  with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and we have
  been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that this is
  closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights to
  help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are a lot
  of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
  worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no sense
  in re-inventing the wheel. 

  So my question to you is:



  To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be designed;
  what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any, form
  factor, etc, etc should it support? 



  What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
  proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )



  How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it allow
  you to create?)



  To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw 5
  winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
  Future Electronics and Philips. 



  Thank you 



  Best Regards



  Frantz Robinson,

  Technical Marketing Manager

  Philips Technical Champion
  FUTURE ELECTRONICS INC 
  237 Hymus blvd., Pointe-Claire, Quebec, H9R 5C7 


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Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-07 by Eric Engler

1) lpc2888 is a SUPER choice!
2) must have an open, integrated USB JTAG device (published API)
3) at least one DB9 serial port
4) a pot hooked up to A-D pins
5) a 2-line LCD would be great
6) a temp sensor would be cool
7) ability to go into sleep mode, with a battery backup to keep RTC
running
8) I want to emphasize the importance of code samples. Some very find
dev boards don't comes with good code samples, and that's a problem.
9) Should have code samples for gcc, IAR, and Keil. Any others are
gravy, but these are required.

I'd be willing to help write PC-side demo apps (USB and serial), if
desired.

Eric

RE: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-07 by Frantz Robinson

A lot of great ideas here, thank you and thanks to everyone who
responded!
IT seems to me there are some recurring themes;
It makes me wonder if there isn't an opportunity here to define a very
minimalist open standard, miniature SBC format specifically tailored to
existing and foreseeable capabilities of the Philips LPC ARM MCU's( no
harm if others want to support it too) which allows any vendor to make
compatible but unique CPU boards and expansion modules which could be
mixed & matched to assemble any kind of ARM-based embedded product- or
is it just late and I've started to hallucinate? ;-)
I wonder if we could get some of the more active board vendors to help
and quickly agree on a format without drawing this out into the
never-ending ISO STD body committee ?
Maybe something like PC-104 but smaller and with provisions for all
conceivable built-in peripherals? 
Stacking or backplane?
STD 0.1" vs 2mm metric headers vs 
Finer pitch (but low cost) vendor specific board stacking connectors?
SO-DIMM or other card-edge style connector?

Or back to my favorite, the KISS principle? (Keep It Simple, S...)
 
Thanks
 
Frantz R

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bhorst [mailto:bob@tibion.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:54 PM
> To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can
get
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> one free!
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
> <frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
> >... come up with unique demo boards for key technologies like the
> LPC2K ...
> 
> The biggest problem I have is that I need to design interface logic,
> motor control, etc. that does not have to be redone every time Philips
> comes out with a cool new part.  It makes sense for me to design a
> simple interface PCB, but I want that to work with current and future
> Philips demo boards.
> 
> So I want the Philips board to have a connector that will be standard
> for the whole family and last for more than one generation, so that
> when I finally get my proto fully working, I can just order the latest
> new Philips board to try it out, then quickly put it all together for
> the final product.
> 
> That means the Philips board should have things like the USB connector
> and any other interfaces specific to the processor, but bring all of
> the pins to the standard connector.
> 
> For an example, see the Silicon Labs F120 board.  It has a 96 pin
> connector with all of the pins, but has its own regulator, serial
> connector, etc.  If that connector and pinout was standard, the next
> board or others in the family might have a display or USB or whatever,
> but I would not need to change my interface board to try them.
> 
> This method also lets me build two interface boards and buy two proto
> boards.  Then when there is a problem, I can very quickly isolate to
> find out which is at fault.
> 
> The 96 pin connector may not be the best one to use, but picking some
> standard that is not too hard to route to (probably through hole)
> would work.
> 
> You could provide a few mating boards, say with extra memory, proto
> areas or even FPGAs.  Others might find them useful although I would
> probably keep designing my own.
> 
> -- Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-07 by Md.Mahbubur Rasheed

Hi,
This is a very good idea to get developers opinion before you design
a development board.

I think LPC2888 BGA board will not be that low cost as Olimex
offers. So why not make a sophisticated but comparatively low cost
(within 250$ with a cheap debugger would be reasonable) system!

I would like to suggest you to design a board with FPGA. You know
very well it is being very useful in the system. LPC2888 with a
comparatively low cost but with high performance FPGA would be
great. It will make your board unique and something different from
others.

If you want to develop an ordinary development board then i would
prefer-

1. One think is very clear. That is - this MCU application is very
much related to the audio based system development. At least I2S,
high speed USB2.0, 16-bit sigma-delta ADC tell so. Philips most
probably wants to compete with "Analog Device" in this part. So,
audio input output ports are obvious.

2. I use Phytec phycore-LPC2294 where they implemented sub-module
SBC. I think that design is very suitable. It would be better if you
design a board with that type of sub module system.

3. One very important thing in LPC2888 is that- it has high speed
USB 2.0 transceiver on-chip. So, take care of this feature. Better
to use normal USB port instead of mini USB port.

4. More external on board flash memory and RAM is preferable. Also
slot for at least SD memory. More memory interface to get use of
USB2.0 high speed :-)

5. I didn't see any integrated sigma-delta ADC in MCU before. So
more I/O ports are obvious fora  good design with LPC2888.
6. I think network connection has a great role on a development board while
most of the cheap boards fail to implement. Why not add a 10/100 Mbit/s
Ethernet on board!

To be precise if you make use of high speed USB2.0, more memory
interface(at least SD memory) , on board RAM and memory , and audio
I/O then it would be a great and unique design.

I will look forward for reply regarding my concepts.

Thanks a lot.
Md.Mahbubur Rasheed


--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
<frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
>
> Everyone,
>
> I'll try to keep this brief but perhaps a little intro is in
order.
>
> I am one of the many 'lurkers' on the list quietly learning from
all
> your valuable contributions here, but alas I have little time for
active
> experimentation so I've been mostly quiet. Having done ARM designs
in
> the past, I am of course a huge fan of this architecture and
especially
> Philips's incarnation of it.
>
> I am an 'X' design engineer, but I find myself now with the
> responsibility to help market these parts for a large global
distributor
> (Future) on behalf of Philips. One of the things we try to do here
to
> help our customers and train our FAE's in supporting them, is come
up
> with unique demo boards for key technologies like the LPC2K, and
we have
> been tossing around board concepts for some time, but now that
this is
> closer to actual execution I'd like to get your valuable insights
to
> help us come up with something truly unique and useful.  There are
a lot
> of very good boards available from many sources, so for this to be
> worthwhile, it needs to be sufficiently different from those - no
sense
> in re-inventing the wheel.
>
> So my question to you is:
>
>
>
> To be most useful to you, how should the demo/eval board be
designed;
> what interfaces, peripheral components, external memory if any,
form
> factor, etc, etc should it support?
>
>
>
> What Philips ARM part would you most like to see supported? ( I'm
> proposing LPC2888- do you agree? )
>
>
>
> How would you use this board ? (what invention / design would it
allow
> you to create?)
>
>
>
> To make this worthwhile, I will take all your submissions and draw
5
> winners who will receive the resulting board for free, courtesy of
> Future Electronics and Philips.
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> Frantz Robinson,
>
> Technical Marketing Manager
>
> Philips Technical Champion
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Re: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-07 by Mukund Deshmukh

> I am designing something very simalar for the LPC2103.
>
> Number 1 is to keep it simple and make it easy to tag on extra target
> hardware.
>
> I will let you know where to send my free board later ;)
>

With the falling prices of ARM and competing with C51 CPU, I feel there
would be many people who would be interested in replacing (40 Pin DIP C51
CPU) with ARM, we being one of them.
We have already  designed a 40 Pin header compatible with 89V51RD2 using
LPC213X. It directly replaces 89V51RD2.
Although, it does not use full capability of ARM, but works great.

Best Regards,

Mukund Deshmukh.
Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd
10/1, IT Park, Parsodi,
Nagpur-440022
Cell - 9422113746

RE: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-07 by 3gpabko

Here are my two cents.
I would like to see three versions of an eval. board
with LPC2888:

- Lite;
- Standard;
- Sophisticated;

All with the same connector for a motherboard.

Lite:
- XTAL;
- Power supply regulator;
- Decoupling caps;
- USB connector;
- JTAG header;
- GPIO's on a standard 0.1" header;

Standard:
- All the above plus External memory and Serial
port(s);

Sophisticated:
- All the above plus FPGA and Ethernet controller;

The motherboard design can be left to the user.


Regards
Zdravko Dimitrov


 

--- Frantz Robinson
<frantz.robinson@...> wrote:

> A lot of great ideas here, thank you and thanks to
> everyone who
> responded!
> IT seems to me there are some recurring themes;
> It makes me wonder if there isn't an opportunity
> here to define a very
> minimalist open standard, miniature SBC format
> specifically tailored to
> existing and foreseeable capabilities of the Philips
> LPC ARM MCU's( no
> harm if others want to support it too) which allows
> any vendor to make
> compatible but unique CPU boards and expansion
> modules which could be
> mixed & matched to assemble any kind of ARM-based
> embedded product- or
> is it just late and I've started to hallucinate? ;-)
> I wonder if we could get some of the more active
> board vendors to help
> and quickly agree on a format without drawing this
> out into the
> never-ending ISO STD body committee ?
> Maybe something like PC-104 but smaller and with
> provisions for all
> conceivable built-in peripherals? 
> Stacking or backplane?
> STD 0.1" vs 2mm metric headers vs 
> Finer pitch (but low cost) vendor specific board
> stacking connectors?
> SO-DIMM or other card-edge style connector?
> 
> Or back to my favorite, the KISS principle? (Keep It
> Simple, S...)
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Frantz R
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bhorst [mailto:bob@...]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:54 PM
> > To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo
> board and you can
> get
> > one free!
> > 
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
> > <frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
> > >... come up with unique demo boards for key
> technologies like the
> > LPC2K ...
> > 
> > The biggest problem I have is that I need to
> design interface logic,
> > motor control, etc. that does not have to be
> redone every time Philips
> > comes out with a cool new part.  It makes sense
> for me to design a
> > simple interface PCB, but I want that to work with
> current and future
> > Philips demo boards.
> > 
> > So I want the Philips board to have a connector
> that will be standard
> > for the whole family and last for more than one
> generation, so that
> > when I finally get my proto fully working, I can
> just order the latest
> > new Philips board to try it out, then quickly put
> it all together for
> > the final product.
> > 
> > That means the Philips board should have things
> like the USB connector
> > and any other interfaces specific to the
> processor, but bring all of
> > the pins to the standard connector.
> > 
> > For an example, see the Silicon Labs F120 board. 
> It has a 96 pin
> > connector with all of the pins, but has its own
> regulator, serial
> > connector, etc.  If that connector and pinout was
> standard, the next
> > board or others in the family might have a display
> or USB or whatever,
> > but I would not need to change my interface board
> to try them.
> > 
> > This method also lets me build two interface
> boards and buy two proto
> > boards.  Then when there is a problem, I can very
> quickly isolate to
> > find out which is at fault.
> > 
> > The 96 pin connector may not be the best one to
> use, but picking some
> > standard that is not too hard to route to
> (probably through hole)
> > would work.
> > 
> > You could provide a few mating boards, say with
> extra memory, proto
> > areas or even FPGAs.  Others might find them
> useful although I would
> > probably keep designing my own.
> > 
> > -- Bob
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 


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Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-07 by rggmns

Hello,

You are making a mistake in rebuilding a 40 pin 8051 version of the
ARM controller.

I teach microcontroller applications to bachelor students.
We use 8051 devices with more peripherals (and connections) than the
40 pin 8051 (ADuC832, AT89c51cc03, C517,...).

You have to use a controller for it's real purpose.

Need low pin count, time deterministic programming and low cost
(component and PCB) use a PIC, STx, AVR or MCS51 device.
(wide voltage range, low component count and wide pitch components for
low PCB cost)

Need functionnality? Then cost is not always a problem. Then use the
ARM. But use ALL it's functions (or make them accessible).
I have build PCB's for the LPC2103 and LPC2138. The component count to
get it working is to high for 8051 applications.
We use 10 pin headers to get all de I/O out. The board itself contains
 a minimum component count to get it working:RS232 level shifter,
reset and boot buttons, voltage regulators (3.3 and 1.8), 9 pin D-type
connector and jacks for IIC and SPI interface. 

This allows anybody to get started fast. There is no need to use loose
wires to get the board running.

Problems start when starting with components, not with ready to use
starter kits.

With regards

Roggemans M.

Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-07 by Eric Engler

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
<frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
>
> IT seems to me there are some recurring themes;
> It makes me wonder if there isn't an opportunity here to define a very
> minimalist open standard...
> ...CPU boards and expansion modules ...

Please do make some expansion modules if you go for a minimalist
development board. Lots of people (like myself) are mostly into
software and we don't want to build our own expansion boards just so
we can test the commonly used on-chip peripherals.

I don't mind paying extra, but I simply don't have the time or desire
to solder chips to a board so I can have something to exercise from my
software. If I can't find a board, or a board combination, that gives
me the functionality I am looking for, then I simply have to look
someplace else.

Eric

Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-07 by frankdejonge99

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Frantz Robinson"
<frantz.robinson@...> wrote:
>
> A lot of great ideas here, thank you and thanks to everyone who
> responded!
> IT seems to me there are some recurring themes;
> It makes me wonder if there isn't an opportunity here to define a very
> minimalist open standard, miniature SBC format specifically tailored to
> existing and foreseeable capabilities of the Philips LPC ARM MCU's( no
> harm if others want to support it too) which allows any vendor to make
> compatible but unique CPU boards and expansion modules which could be
> mixed & matched to assemble any kind of ARM-based embedded product- or
> is it just late and I've started to hallucinate? ;-)


Franz,

In my experience evaluation/developementboards don't last much longer
than a week before the end up on the big pile in the closet.
I don't like to do things twice, so I reather develope software on the
end-product. In that perspective, there's nothing wrong with the
concept of using a plug-on board for both evaluation as well as for
your end-product. Most software guys don't want to bother with all the
hardware for each new application, and they shouldn't.
Within our company we do a lot of projects and everyone seems to use
his own favorite chips and developement tools. In practice this means
that no one is able to service the projects of others...
We use al kind of PIC's, 8051's, c167, AVR's and ARM's. (besides from
bigger proc's) A short time ago we decided to switch over to one
single family for all future projects, if posible. it seems to me that
the LPC-ARM is the most suitable family for this. Starting with
LPC2101 and up to the LPC2888(at this moment)
Standardising software is even more rewarding.

What I'm trying to say is that it is better(and cheaper) to use a
standardised half-product for small series (and evaluation too) with
plenty of extra memory and peripherals and above all standard software
libs.
If you are building a product in bigger quant. you want to have a
tailor made board anyhow...besides that, chips like LPC288X with
fine-pitch BGA are hardly suitable in small series.

So in my point of view, it would be nice to have a open standard for
LPC2xxx plug-on boards. I have to make something like this anyway. If
I can then build my application board and buy a proc-board for it,
it'll save me a lot of time in the future. Processor-boards that are
used more frequently, we can make ourselves...seems fair.

I wouldn't mind putting some time into it, if anyone is interested.
  
Frank

RE: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-07 by Joel Winarske

Hi Frantz,

> I was also considering another popular format with a larger (cheap)
> 2-layer board with all the I/O interfaces , regulators etc, and a small
> (not so cheap) 4 or 6 layer removable daughtercard for the CPU, core
> logic and memory, since you need that many layers for the BGA's anyways.
> I've seen a few like that using SO-DIMM connectors for the "core" card,
> but I'm not sure how many people feel comfortable prototyping their own
> system card with the SO-DIMM interface on it. Any opinions on that ?

I like this idea the best.  I've seen this in a good deal of WinCE based
designs.
 
How about a SO-DIMM module for the LPC3100 as well, speaking of WinCE?  

Having a pin-out that was interchangeable between LPC21xx and the LPC3100
would be great.

Then just offer a variety of carrier boards to work with each processor
"type".  


Joel

RE: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-08 by Joel Winarske

> http://www.logicpd.com/eps/cardengines/
> or this
> http://www.raisonance.com/products/Reva.php
> 
> would work quite well, for me. Better than having a single board for
> every new chip that comes out every other month, at $200/piece.
> "It is the economy, xcvcx!", right?


The best deal I've found on a PXA270 SO-DIMM board is this guy:
http://www.toradex.com/e/Factsheet_Colibri_Intel_XScale_PXA270_Single_Board_
Computer_Module.php

It sure makes a snappy Ethernet based gateway.


Joel

RE: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-08 by Michael Rubitschka

Hi

I also prefer the motherboard / doughterboard to a single controller board.

Cheers
Michael
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>From: "Joel Winarske" <joelw@...>
>Reply-To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com
>To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get 
>one free!
>Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:38:02 -0700
>
> > http://www.logicpd.com/eps/cardengines/
> > or this
> > http://www.raisonance.com/products/Reva.php
> >
> > would work quite well, for me. Better than having a single board for
> > every new chip that comes out every other month, at $200/piece.
> > "It is the economy, xcvcx!", right?
>
>
>The best deal I've found on a PXA270 SO-DIMM board is this guy:
>http://www.toradex.com/e/Factsheet_Colibri_Intel_XScale_PXA270_Single_Board_
>Computer_Module.php
>
>It sure makes a snappy Ethernet based gateway.
>
>
>Joel
>
>

RE: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-08 by Michael Rubitschka

Hi

<<<
>I preffer identical in size "sub-boards"/modules in a larger board,
>connected through jumper cables. A plus is the possibility to separate
>(break) the modules and stack them, or leave them apart if not needed.
>The initial setup could contain a 6 Modules:CPU Module,Power Supply
>module, RS232+USB module,RAM/Flash module,LCD Module,Keys+LED module.
>>>

The more modules the more versatile a test board would be.
Unfortunatly Ive never seen such a commercial board, except
the Elektor E-blocks modules, which are too expensive imho.

<http://www.elektor.de/Default.aspx?tabid=107&List=0&CategoryID=9&Category2ID=0&Category3=Starter+Kits&Level=3&SortField=8 
  >


Cheers
Michael

Re: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-08 by K B Shah-lascaux

Gentleman,
Phytech has  identical practice .I have used their LPC2294 system which actually is two part :
Main board with power supply and ethernet, RS 232 etc ...
CPU board with flash, RAM and CPLD/FPGA...
You can always change CPU board with main board since it is connectorised. They also have all pins comming out on other connector ...Though it is nice but little difficult to use without mating connector...

K B
Show quoted textHide quoted text
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: roger_lynx 
  To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:26 PM
  Subject: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!


  Yeah, Joel,

  Agreed. For an inspiration, something like this:

  http://www.logicpd.com/eps/cardengines/
  or this
  http://www.raisonance.com/products/Reva.php

  would work quite well, for me. Better than having a single board for
  every new chip that comes out every other month, at $200/piece. 
  "It is the economy, xcvcx!", right? 
  :-)

  Roger

  --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Joel Winarske" <joelw@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hi Frantz,
  > 
  > > I was also considering another popular format with a larger (cheap)
  > > 2-layer board with all the I/O interfaces , regulators etc, and a
  small
  > > (not so cheap) 4 or 6 layer removable daughtercard for the CPU, core
  > > logic and memory, since you need that many layers for the BGA's
  anyways.
  > > I've seen a few like that using SO-DIMM connectors for the "core"
  card,
  > > but I'm not sure how many people feel comfortable prototyping
  their own
  > > system card with the SO-DIMM interface on it. Any opinions on that ?
  > 
  > I like this idea the best.  I've seen this in a good deal of WinCE based
  > designs.
  >  
  > How about a SO-DIMM module for the LPC3100 as well, speaking of WinCE?  
  > 
  > Having a pin-out that was interchangeable between LPC21xx and the
  LPC3100
  > would be great.
  > 
  > Then just offer a variety of carrier boards to work with each processor
  > "type".  
  > 
  > 
  > Joel
  >






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Re: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-08 by K B Shah-lascaux

Hi Michael,

look at following web ... Rapid Development Kits
http://www.phytec.com/products/rdk/index.html

I think might be useful for idea ...K B
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Rubitschka 
  To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 8:26 AM
  Subject: RE: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!


  Hi

  <<<
  >I preffer identical in size "sub-boards"/modules in a larger board,
  >connected through jumper cables. A plus is the possibility to separate
  >(break) the modules and stack them, or leave them apart if not needed.
  >The initial setup could contain a 6 Modules:CPU Module,Power Supply
  >module, RS232+USB module,RAM/Flash module,LCD Module,Keys+LED module.
  >>>

  The more modules the more versatile a test board would be.
  Unfortunatly Ive never seen such a commercial board, except
  the Elektor E-blocks modules, which are too expensive imho.

  <http://www.elektor.de/Default.aspx?tabid=107&List=0&CategoryID=9&Category2ID=0&Category3=Starter+Kits&Level=3&SortField=8 
    >


  Cheers
  Michael




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Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-09 by fordp2002

If you add all the ideas from here on to your board, it will be a
monster and cost more the the US National Debt ;)

If anything remotely like this happens then I will be over to Olimex
in a shot for one of there little masterpieces.

A really oustanding idea I have seen on here is the addition of an
FPGA on the board. The Philips Chip has 480Mb USB2 which makes it a
perfect partner for an FPGA.

The FPGA and Philips chip can sit on the same Jtag Interface.

I have one or two ideas straight away for this FPGA LPC combo.

If you can keep the cost down in the $60 - $120 range I think it would
really be something.

A header type board would be best in my view.

Re: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-09 by Leon Heller

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From: "fordp2002" <SimonEllwood@...>
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Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one 
free!


> If you add all the ideas from here on to your board, it will be a
> monster and cost more the the US National Debt ;)
>
> If anything remotely like this happens then I will be over to Olimex
> in a shot for one of there little masterpieces.
>
> A really oustanding idea I have seen on here is the addition of an
> FPGA on the board. The Philips Chip has 480Mb USB2 which makes it a
> perfect partner for an FPGA.
>
> The FPGA and Philips chip can sit on the same Jtag Interface.
>
> I have one or two ideas straight away for this FPGA LPC combo.
>
> If you can keep the cost down in the $60 - $120 range I think it would
> really be something.
>
> A header type board would be best in my view.

It might be better to configure the FPGA using the ARM, with an external 
flash device for the file.

Leon

Re: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get one free!

2006-04-10 by Michael Rubitschka

Dear K B Shah-lascaux

Thank you verry much for this link and information.

Cheers
Michael
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>From: "K B Shah-lascaux" <kbshah@...>
>Reply-To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com
>To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can get 
>one free!
>Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:29:44 -0400
>
>Hi Michael,
>
>look at following web ... Rapid Development Kits
>http://www.phytec.com/products/rdk/index.html
>
>I think might be useful for idea ...K B
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Michael Rubitschka
>   To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 8:26 AM
>   Subject: RE: [lpc2000] Re: help define a LPC2888 demo board and you can 
>get one free!
>
>
>   Hi
>
>   <<<
>   >I preffer identical in size "sub-boards"/modules in a larger board,
>   >connected through jumper cables. A plus is the possibility to separate
>   >(break) the modules and stack them, or leave them apart if not needed.
>   >The initial setup could contain a 6 Modules:CPU Module,Power Supply
>   >module, RS232+USB module,RAM/Flash module,LCD Module,Keys+LED module.
>   >>>
>
>   The more modules the more versatile a test board would be.
>   Unfortunatly Ive never seen such a commercial board, except
>   the Elektor E-blocks modules, which are too expensive imho.
>
>   
><http://www.elektor.de/Default.aspx?tabid=107&List=0&CategoryID=9&Category2ID=0&Category3=Starter+Kits&Level=3&SortField=8
>     >
>
>
>   Cheers
>   Michael
>
>
>
>
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