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Who has better documentation ... Atmel or Phillips?

Who has better documentation ... Atmel or Phillips?

2005-06-25 by Pigeon

What do you'll think? (please only tell me if you have used both MCUs).

My issue is, I have been working 2 or 3 nights to get interrupt driven USARTS working in C for my avr.. and no luck.. 

I feel if the documentation was better (even though they gave examples), this would of taken that long..

Is the documentaiton for the lpc2*** that much better than AVRs?


thanks
Lee

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Re: [lpc2000] Who has better documentation ... Atmel or Phillips?

2005-06-25 by Joe G (Work)

Some times 3rd party doucmention on the IC is better.
See http://www.hitex.co.uk/arm/lpc2000book/index.html

Sometimes a 3rd party Yahoo user group is better for the explanations.....

Oh like this news group........

Some time the tool vendors  Keil, IAR, GCC and others have better code 
examples.


Regards
Joseph

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> What do you'll think? (please only tell me if you have used both MCUs).
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> My issue is, I have been working 2 or 3 nights to get interrupt driven 
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> I feel if the documentation was better (even though they gave examples), 
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> thanks
> Lee
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Re: [lpc2000] Who has better documentation ... Atmel or Phillips?

2005-06-25 by Richard

That seems a bit... unusual. I haven't looked at the code in detail, but we 
have some interrupt driven UART code (the usual ring buffer routines) in 
our ICCAVR examples directory and they don't look too complicated. May be 
your can d/l our demo and just look at that portion for inspirations.

The ARM devices generally have a hard to use interrupt architecture, just 
because each device family usually have some sort of VIC (vectored 
interrupt controller) and each one could be quite different from another. 
e.g. LPC2000 UART interrupt handling is probably quite a bit different from 
SAM7S interrupt handling and the VIC code can be quite tricky to get right. 
In that sense, the AVR is easier to work with.

At 07:16 PM 6/24/2005, Pigeon wrote:

>What do you'll think? (please only tell me if you have used both MCUs).
>
>My issue is, I have been working 2 or 3 nights to get interrupt driven 
>USARTS working in C for my avr.. and no luck..
>
>I feel if the documentation was better (even though they gave examples), 
>this would of taken that long..
>
>Is the documentaiton for the lpc2*** that much better than AVRs?
>
>
>

// richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please 
use richard at imagecraft.com)

Re: [lpc2000] Who has better documentation ... Atmel or Phillips?

2005-06-25 by Bill Knight

Lee
Look for UT050418A.zip in the files section of LPC2000 on Yahoo
for interrupt driven uart code for the LPC.
Look for "UART Module" (ID 34) in the User Projects section on
AVRFreaks.net for some old interrupt driven uart code for the AVR.

Regards
-Bill Knight
R O SoftWare &
http://www.theARMPatch.com
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:16:32 -0400, Pigeon wrote:

>What do you'll think? (please only tell me if you have used both MCUs).

>My issue is, I have been working 2 or 3 nights to get interrupt driven USARTS working in C for my avr.. and no luck.. 

>I feel if the documentation was better (even though they gave examples), this would of taken that long..

>Is the documentaiton for the lpc2*** that much better than AVRs?


>thanks
>Lee

Re: [lpc2000] Who has better documentation ... Atmel or Phillips?

2005-06-25 by Alex Gibson

Pigeon wrote:
> What do you'll think? (please only tell me if you have used both MCUs).


For avr, have you looked on avrfreaks.com yet ?

Lots of code for the different compilers.

> My issue is, I have been working 2 or 3 nights to get interrupt driven USARTS working in C for my avr.. and no luck.. 
> 
> I feel if the documentation was better (even though they gave examples), this would of taken that long..
> 
> Is the documentaiton for the lpc2*** that much better than AVRs?

No not at all.

IMO Philips still have a way to go to meet Atmels level of
documentation. And atmels website is a thousand times better than Philips.

You can view tables fullscreen properly. Things a half decent web
designer should be able to do very easily.

Compare these two links
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/markets/mms/products/microcontrollers/product_catalog/16_32bit/index.html
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/param_table.asp?family_id=607&OrderBy=part_no&Direction=ASC

Additionally Atmel lets you download it to use in excel

or
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=74
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/catalog/219/282/45988/45993/45994/

and
http://www.microchip.com/ParamChartSearch/chart.aspx?branchID=1004&mid=10&lang=en&pageId=74

Lot more docs for the avr , lot more app notes.
Lot more code available on the net for the avr.

Should be able to get the usarts up and running in c , in a lot faster
than that on the avrs.

Tried getting the usarts working by themselves before adding the rest of
your code ?

Alex

Re: [lpc2000] Who has better documentation ... Atmel or Phillips?

2005-06-25 by Robert Adsett

At 01:57 AM 6/26/05 +1000, Alex Gibson wrote:
>IMO Philips still have a way to go to meet Atmels level of
>documentation. And atmels website is a thousand times better than Philips.

OTOH Atmel prevents you from cut and pasting from their docs.

Robert

" 'Freedom' has no meaning of itself.  There are always restrictions,   be 
they legal, genetic, or physical.  If you don't believe me, try to chew a 
radio signal. "  -- Kelvin Throop, III
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Re: [lpc2000] Who has better documentation ... Atmel or Phillips?

2005-06-25 by Pigeon

Yeah, I have tried working with USARTs by themself.. maybe my issue is that I don't have C skills.. because I see all the code, and when I try to use it.. there are missing things.

oh well, thanks for all the responses

Lee
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alex Gibson 
  To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Who has better documentation ... Atmel or Phillips?


  Pigeon wrote:
  > What do you'll think? (please only tell me if you have used both MCUs).


  For avr, have you looked on avrfreaks.com yet ?

  Lots of code for the different compilers.

  > My issue is, I have been working 2 or 3 nights to get interrupt driven USARTS working in C for my avr.. and no luck.. 
  > 
  > I feel if the documentation was better (even though they gave examples), this would of taken that long..
  > 
  > Is the documentaiton for the lpc2*** that much better than AVRs?

  No not at all.

  IMO Philips still have a way to go to meet Atmels level of
  documentation. And atmels website is a thousand times better than Philips.

  You can view tables fullscreen properly. Things a half decent web
  designer should be able to do very easily.

  Compare these two links
  http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/markets/mms/products/microcontrollers/product_catalog/16_32bit/index.html
  http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/param_table.asp?family_id=607&OrderBy=part_no&Direction=ASC

  Additionally Atmel lets you download it to use in excel

  or
  http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=74
  http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/catalog/219/282/45988/45993/45994/

  and
  http://www.microchip.com/ParamChartSearch/chart.aspx?branchID=1004&mid=10&lang=en&pageId=74

  Lot more docs for the avr , lot more app notes.
  Lot more code available on the net for the avr.

  Should be able to get the usarts up and running in c , in a lot faster
  than that on the avrs.

  Tried getting the usarts working by themselves before adding the rest of
  your code ?

  Alex






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