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MiniMoe - chaining and expanders

MiniMoe - chaining and expanders

2002-02-20 by mate_stubb

The concept behind the CHAIN switch is that you have a need to expand 
small sequencers into large ones. There are two types of expansion: 
creating longer rows, and creating more rows.

To create more rows, you don't need a second full fledged sequencer 
with its own clock counter, position setting, etc. In fact, that's 
wasteful. You just need a row of pots or switches and an output or 
two.

To create longer rows, you do need those things.

So that leads to two types of modules in a system like this: dumb 
expander modules that blindly take their address from some other 
module, and multiple 'master' sequencer modules with some type of 
smart chaining ability.

For this system, where compactness and cost-effectiveness is an 
important issue, I feel that the use of normalled connections behind 
the panel between masters and expanders is justified. A small ribbon 
cable of 8 or less connections would be sufficient. Expanders would 
be connected to their master on a more or less permanent basis. 
Masters would also physically connect together using this ribbon 
cable method, but from a different bus. They would be configured by 
the user via the front panel CHAIN switch. I don't have all the 
details worked out right now - the switch graphic is kind of a 
placeholder for the panel design. Maybe you wire a bunch of master 
modules together behind the panel, and then set up one or two 
independent chain groups via the switches.

I'll put up a few expander module designs, a few more explanations, 
and let it sit for awhile. I've got to teach myself PIC programming, 
the hardware design is otherwise pretty straightforward.

Moe

Re: [motm] MiniMoe - chaining and expanders

2002-02-20 by blip

> cable method, but from a different bus. They would be configured by
> the user via the front panel CHAIN switch. I don't have all the
> details worked out right now - the switch graphic is kind of a
> placeholder for the panel design. Maybe you wire a bunch of master
> modules together behind the panel, and then set up one or two
> independent chain groups via the switches.

would it make sense for the chain switch to be on or off, so there's only
one ribbon connector (for this function) on the back of each master AND
each expander...? to chain one master and two expanders, you'd have the
chain switch on the master and first expander turned on. or is this too
simplistic?

bleep.
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Re: [motm] MiniMoe - chaining and expanders

2002-02-21 by mate_stubb

>>>>
would it make sense for the chain switch to be on or off, so there's 
only one ribbon connector (for this function) on the back of each 
master AND each expander...? to chain one master and two expanders, 
you'd have the chain switch on the master and first expander turned 
on. or is this too simplistic?
<<<<

On/Off would be less flexible than On1/Off/On2. Only masters get 
chained together, expanders just get plugged in and always operate. 
As I said, I still have to work the whole thing out. One diff between 
master->master vs. master->slave, is that masters must talk to each 
other if random stage selection and direction control are to work 
across modules.

Moe

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