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2003-01-31 by Paul Schreiber
Since this has come up several times (regarding the new modules): a) points can only be applied for discounts/freebies towards modules (kit OR assembled) that are $199 or less. b) this means you cannot apply them towards, say, a $389 uSeq or a MOTM-300 VCO. c) however, the $200+ modules are worth 1 point each, and hence count towards other modules. Hope this clears up any confusion (or may create more). Paul S.
2003-01-31 by Joe Pavone
Woah... I thoght it was: 6 points: 20% off any module 8 points: 33% off any module 11 points: 50% off any module 14 points: free module up to $190, FREE shipping 20 points: 2 free modules, free shipping, up to $400 total. I thouht any module ment any module and the limits were on the freebies? bummer. ...jp Paul Schreiber wrote:
>Since this has come up several times (regarding the new modules): > >a) points can only be applied for discounts/freebies towards modules (kit OR assembled) that are >$199 or less. > >b) this means you cannot apply them towards, say, a $389 uSeq or a MOTM-300 VCO. > >c) however, the $200+ modules are worth 1 point each, and hence count towards other modules. > >Hope this clears up any confusion (or may create more). > >Paul S. > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
2003-01-31 by groovyshaman@snet.net
Copied right from the July 2002 catalog: "Points are redeemed by indicating so on your order. Here is what you can get with accumulated points: 6 points: 20% off any module 8 points: 33% off any module 11 points: 50% off any module 14 points: free module up to $200 in value, includes FREE shipping. 20 points: 2 free modules, free shipping, up to $400 total ($200 per module) Points are accumulated for all orders, for as long as Synthesis Technology is around! There is no expiration date." Sounds clear to me! George ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Pavone <fuzztone@...> To: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> Cc: MOTM listserv <motm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [motm] Points clarification > Woah... > > I thoght it was: > > 6 points: 20% off any module > 8 points: 33% off any module > 11 points: 50% off any module > 14 points: free module up to $190, FREE shipping > 20 points: 2 free modules, free shipping, up to $400 total. > > I thouht any module ment any module and the limits were on the freebies? > > bummer. > > ...jp > > > > > Paul Schreiber wrote: > > >Since this has come up several times (regarding the new modules): > > > >a) points can only be applied for discounts/freebies towards modules (kit OR assembled) that are > >$199 or less. > > > >b) this means you cannot apply them towards, say, a $389 uSeq or a MOTM-300 VCO. > > > >c) however, the $200+ modules are worth 1 point each, and hence count towards other modules.
> > > >Hope this clears up any confusion (or may create more). > > > >Paul S. > > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
2003-01-31 by Paul Schreiber
This is my fault for not placing the phrase "...up to $200..." in the lines previous to the 14 point discussion. It holds for all the point totals. I shall try to be clearer in the future. Paul S. ----- Original Message -----
From: <groovyshaman@...> To: "MOTM listserv" <motm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [motm] Points clarification > Copied right from the July 2002 catalog: > > "Points are redeemed by indicating so on your order. Here is what you can get > with accumulated points: > 6 points: 20% off any module > 8 points: 33% off any module > 11 points: 50% off any module > 14 points: free module up to $200 in value, includes FREE shipping. > 20 points: 2 free modules, free shipping, up to $400 total ($200 per module) > Points are accumulated for all orders, for as long as Synthesis Technology is > around! There is no expiration date." > > Sounds clear to me! > > George > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Pavone <fuzztone@...> > To: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> > Cc: MOTM listserv <motm@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:59 PM > Subject: Re: [motm] Points clarification > > > > Woah... > > > > I thoght it was: > > > > 6 points: 20% off any module > > 8 points: 33% off any module > > 11 points: 50% off any module > > 14 points: free module up to $190, FREE shipping > > 20 points: 2 free modules, free shipping, up to $400 total. > > > > I thouht any module ment any module and the limits were on the freebies? > > > > bummer. > > > > ...jp > > > > > > > > > > Paul Schreiber wrote: > > > > >Since this has come up several times (regarding the new modules): > > > > > >a) points can only be applied for discounts/freebies towards modules (kit OR > assembled) that are > > >$199 or less. > > > > > >b) this means you cannot apply them towards, say, a $389 uSeq or a MOTM-300 > VCO. > > > > > >c) however, the $200+ modules are worth 1 point each, and hence count > towards other modules. > > > > > >Hope this clears up any confusion (or may create more). > > > > > >Paul S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2003-01-31 by Robert van der Kamp
On Friday 31 January 2003 02:48, Paul Schreiber wrote: > Since this has come up several times (regarding the new > modules): > > a) points can only be applied for discounts/freebies > towards modules (kit OR assembled) that are $199 or less. Ouch, there goes my 50% reduced midi-cv converter... :( Oh well. - Robert
2003-01-31 by osthelder <osthelder@netscape.net>
Well now that the points system is clear to all, let's all belly up to the bar and order another round of MOTM! Chub - ordering a double...
2003-01-31 by Scott Gibbons
> c) however, the $200+ modules are worth 1 point each, and hence count towards other modules. Meaning... If we purchased modules that cost less than $200, we don't get any points for those? If so, then I'm confused because I thought: "Points are accumulated for **ALL** orders (my emphasis), for as long as Synthesis Technology is around! There is no expiration date." best, - Scott ____________ http://www.red-noise.com http://www.strawberryplanet.org
2003-01-31 by Paul Schreiber
All modules purchased EXCEPT rails and blanks and the power distribution boards, count FOR points. This includes the MOTM-910, the MOTM-940 and the MOTM-900. The "clarification" is for CASHING IN points. Points cashed in are TOWARDS modules up to $200 in value. This EXCLUDES modules like the MOTM-300 and MOTM-600 being discounted. Paul S.
2003-01-31 by groovyshaman@snet.net
Paul Schreiber wrote: > The "clarification" is for CASHING IN points. Points cashed in are > TOWARDS modules up to $200 in value. This EXCLUDES modules like the > MOTM-300 and MOTM-600 being discounted. Oh. Now THAT is unfortunate. I guess I didn't read it that way, bummer. Well, it's still appreciated that there is any kind of discount system in place. And it caters nicely to us kit builders. :) George
2003-01-31 by Joe Pavone
I believe that the basic issue here is that some of us (including me) thought that the defenition of the points system put limits on the free modules only as in: 14 points: free module up to $190, FREE shipping 20 points: 2 free modules, free shipping, up to $400 total. and that the percentage points: 6 points: 20% off any module 8 points: 33% off any module 11 points: 50% off any module was not limited to module price. Paul did not make this very clear in his original description of the points system, but he has now. Back then there were not $300-$400 modules either, so I understand the situation... I just wish there was a way I could apply my points to the new modules for some sort of discount as I dont want to buy any more of the other <$200 modules. I have enough, thank you. ...jp Paul Schreiber wrote:
>All modules purchased EXCEPT rails and blanks and the power distribution boards, count FOR >points. This includes the MOTM-910, the MOTM-940 and the MOTM-900. > >The "clarification" is for CASHING IN points. Points cashed in are TOWARDS modules up to $200 in >value. This EXCLUDES modules like the MOTM-300 and MOTM-600 being discounted. > >Paul S. > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
2003-01-31 by edibennardo <endiendi@tin.it>
Nobody did suggest so far and Paul will hate me for this to add a simple feature: 1 and a half point or.. why not? two points for very expensive modules, this sounds to me rather correct. Enrico from Italy
2003-01-31 by ixqy@aol.com
In a message dated 1/31/03 11:03:53 AM Central Standard Time, endiendi@... writes: > Nobody did suggest so far and Paul will hate me for this to add a > simple feature: 1 and a half point or.. why not? two points for very > expensive modules, this sounds to me rather correct. That is a nice idea, but I think the points thing is already proving to be a source of confusion (hey...potential song title there!). Personally, I'm very happy that there is a points system at all. Eagerly awaiting the new modules to ship, :) Andrew
2003-01-31 by media.nai@rcn.com
>Back then there were not $300-$400 modules either, so I understand >the situation... I just wish there was a way I could apply my points >to the new modules for some sort of discount as I dont want to buy >any more of the other <$200 modules. I have enough, thank you. I was thinking about that since I haven't used any of my points. It's quite likely that the SEM filter, VC ADSR, envelope follower, pre-amp, and a number of unreleased modules will be under $200. If not, you could still use your points to get one of the 17 modules currently in production you wouldn't have otherwise bought. Besides, you can never have two many envelopes and VCA's :) Speaking of cost-effective modules, any thoughts on the 390 or 380??
2003-01-31 by Frank Vanaman
Hi Y'all- I whole-heartedly agree with Larry's thought. I did the same thing, one 380 and one 390. That's a whole boat-load of LFOs in 2U of width. My reasoning was similar to Larry's: I wanted at least one to be VC'able, but I'm also always using a few for free running purposes. *AND* I didn't really want to take up 2U of space with a single LFO, albeit a fuller-featured one. The price is nice at $99 for each of the two, too! I'm pleased with the choice... Frank
-----Original Message----- From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:55 PM To: motm@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [motm] Re: Points clarification Yes, I have a thought. You can never have too many LFOs. :) And, an 320 is a bit of overkill every time you need an LFO. 380 makes sense if you want complex waveforms. The 390 makes sense if you still need some voltage control. I got one of each. :) Larry H
2003-01-31 by Mike Marsh <mmarsh@websense.com>
Yes, I have one of each, too. And recall that the 320 has a SYNC in! --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Vanaman" <fvanaman@s...> wrote: > Hi Y'all- > > I whole-heartedly agree with Larry's thought. I did the same thing, one 380 > and one 390. That's a whole boat-load of LFOs in 2U of width. My reasoning > was similar to Larry's: I wanted at least one to be VC'able, but I'm also > always using a few for free running purposes. *AND* I didn't really want to > take up 2U of space with a single LFO, albeit a fuller-featured one. The > price is nice at $99 for each of the two, too! > > I'm pleased with the choice... > > Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@i...] > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:55 PM > To: motm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [motm] Re: Points clarification > > Yes, I have a thought. You can never have too many LFOs. :) And, an 320 > is a bit of overkill every time you need an LFO. 380 makes sense if you want > complex waveforms. The 390 makes sense if you still need some voltage
> control. I got one of each. :) > > Larry H
2003-01-31 by J. Larry Hendry
----- Original Message -----
From: <media.nai@...> <snip> Besides, you can never have two many envelopes and VCA's :) Speaking of cost-effective modules, any thoughts on the 390 or 380?? Yes, I have a thought. You can never have too many LFOs. :) And, an 320 is a bit of overkill every time you need an LFO. 380 makes sense if you want complex waveforms. The 390 makes sense if you still need some voltage control. I got one of each. :) Larry H
2003-01-31 by media.nai@rcn.com
>I whole-heartedly agree with Larry's thought. I did the same thing, one 380 >and one 390. That's a whole boat-load of LFOs in 2U of width. I love the 320, but I hadn't thought about it that way :) >My reasonin was similar to Larry's: I wanted at least one to be >VC'able, but I'm also always using a few for free running purposes. >*AND* I didn't really want to take up 2U of space with a single LFO, >albeit a fuller-featured one. You could also use the summed output of the 380 to control one of the LFO's in the 390. Now the scary thing is that Larry only has ONE of each. Doesn't he realize he could put a dozen LFO's in 4U?? :)
>The price is nice at $99 for each of the two, too! > >I'm pleased with the choice... > >Frank > >-----Original Message----- >From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...] >Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:55 PM >To: motm@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [motm] Re: Points clarification > >Yes, I have a thought. You can never have too many LFOs. :) And, an 320 >is a bit of overkill every time you need an LFO. 380 makes sense if you want >complex waveforms. The 390 makes sense if you still need some voltage >control. I got one of each. :) > >Larry H
2003-02-01 by elhardt@att.net
Joe Pavone writes: >>Woah... I thoght it was: 6 points: 20% off any module 8 points: 33% off any module 11 points: 50% off any module 14 points: free module up to $190, FREE shipping 20 points: 2 free modules, free shipping, up to $400 total. I thouht any module meant any module and the limits were on the freebies?<< These were the rules when I bought into the MOTM system, and it seems like there has to be some contractual obligation to stick to what was in writing at the date of a buyer's first purchase as this was one deciding factor to go the motm route. As evidence I traded in my 20 points for an MOTM-300 at $239 and MOTM-420 at $159. As you can see there was no $200 limit per module as long as the total was less than $400 as in my above example, and this was supposed to be in affect for as long as motm was in business! I'm surprised that nobody else seems to have cashed in their points and did the same as I did. -Elhardt
2003-02-01 by edibennardo <endiendi@tin.it>
From previous messages posted on this list in the last two years it became clear to me that Paul did consider modules above 200$ just like "taboo modules" for the point policy, I remember once he wrote that a Vco couldn't be cumulated with a less expensive module up to 400 $ with 20 points, I don't see the reason for this but it seems that Elhardt could get this opportunity and I'm glad for him of course.. but nobody had ever asked Paul to invent a points policy, he did it to encourage and he set the rules so I think he should be more precise in specifying what he really wants to do, i.e. aware of the implicit limitations, since I have 11 points I'm waiting to reach 20 and get two free 440s, I think this is possible, and I didn't even think of buying a 389$ module with a 50%off with my 11 points though it would be more convenient to me at the moment because I got from the messages that Paul would say :"No, this is not possible" but if we want to be very strict "any module" means "any module" and I perfectly understand that people who have purchased a lot of modules like I think Joe Pavone did feel to be more limited by the points policy while they should be worthy of more encouragement. Still I'd suggest to give more than one point to very expensive modules. Enrico (Italy) --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, elhardt@a... wrote: > Joe Pavone writes: > >>Woah... > I thoght it was: > 6 points: 20% off any module > 8 points: 33% off any module > 11 points: 50% off any module > 14 points: free module up to $190, FREE shipping > 20 points: 2 free modules, free shipping, up to $400 total. > I thouht any module meant any module and the limits were on the freebies?<< > > These were the rules when I bought into the MOTM system, and it seems like > there has to be some contractual obligation to stick to what was in writing at > the date of a buyer's first purchase as this was one deciding factor to go the > motm route. As evidence I traded in my 20 points for an MOTM-300 at $239 and > MOTM-420 at $159. As you can see there was no $200 limit per module as long as > the total was less than $400 as in my above example, and this was supposed to > be in affect for as long as motm was in business! > > I'm surprised that nobody else seems to have cashed in their points and did the
> same as I did. > > -Elhardt