MOTM

I am not familiar with the specs of the Prophet 600, but assuming that it
has a CV in, any MOTM module that puts out CVs, and in some cases signals,
should be able to modulate the filter, I would think.

The EG is the most obvious, but the LFO is next. The Lag module may be able
to usefully contort a CV before going in as well. The 101 S&H may be fun,
too.

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	phases [mailto:cfiend@...] 
Sent:	Friday, 05 January, 2001 2:25 PM
To:	motm@egroups.com
Subject:	[motm] suggestions on my next module... anyone

since no one replied the first time I guess it didn't get thru to the list, 
so here it is again if anyone wants to help:

I purchased a 420 filter and an 800 eg about a year ago and love them. I 
have been wanting to expand, but haven't had the money until now.
Among the rest of my gear I have a sh101, pro one and a prophet 600 that I 
want to incorporate into the system I build.
Is there something I can send to the prophet's filter cv in? possibly other 
than output from the 800?
I can probably only afford 2 more modules, so suggestions would help.

thanks,

chad phillips
http://cfiend.home.mindspring.com/
icq: 9033549 IM: ihatesushi

"Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected us as kids, 
we'd all be running around in
darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic
music."

I would seriously consider another 420; the sound-shaping possibilities with
two are much more than doubled. Or, you could get a 440 filter and play with
using that and the 420 (in low-pass mode). For CVs, you will be very happy
with the 320 LFO. It is incredibly useful, and if you get yourself a drum
machine or interface with trigger outs, you can use that to reset the LFO
wave for rhythmic effects. You don't need to do it that way, but it might
work well with your setup. The SH-101 makes a great sequencer for MOTM, btw.
I use it to sequence my 300 oscillator, my filter cutoff frequencies, etc.
all the time. It also can be stepped by an external trigger. I think simple
pattern drum machines (like the TR-606) or trigger sequencers are great
toys, and with a 320 you'll have a great time too.

David.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: phases [mailto:cfiend@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:25 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: [motm] suggestions on my next module... anyone
> 
> 
> since no one replied the first time I guess it didn't get 
> thru to the list, 
> so here it is again if anyone wants to help:
> 
> I purchased a 420 filter and an 800 eg about a year ago and 
> love them. I 
> have been wanting to expand, but haven't had the money until now.
> Among the rest of my gear I have a sh101, pro one and a 
> prophet 600 that I 
> want to incorporate into the system I build.
> Is there something I can send to the prophet's filter cv in? 
> possibly other 
> than output from the 800?
> I can probably only afford 2 more modules, so suggestions would help.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> chad phillips
> http://cfiend.home.mindspring.com/
> icq: 9033549 IM: ihatesushi
> 
> "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected 
> us as kids, 
> we'd all be running around in
> darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive 
> electronic music."
> 
> 
> 
>

since no one replied the first time I guess it didn't get thru to the list, 
so here it is again if anyone wants to help:

I purchased a 420 filter and an 800 eg about a year ago and love them. I 
have been wanting to expand, but haven't had the money until now.
Among the rest of my gear I have a sh101, pro one and a prophet 600 that I 
want to incorporate into the system I build.
Is there something I can send to the prophet's filter cv in? possibly other 
than output from the 800?
I can probably only afford 2 more modules, so suggestions would help.

thanks,

chad phillips
http://cfiend.home.mindspring.com/
icq: 9033549 IM: ihatesushi

"Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected us as kids, 
we'd all be running around in
darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."

In a message dated 1/5/2001 8:28:28 AM, cfiend@... writes:

>Is there something I can send to the prophet's filter cv in? possibly other
>than output from the 800?
>I can probably only afford 2 more modules, so suggestions would help.

As Ken and Bivins said, the 320 VC LFO, the 820 VC Lag Processor, and the 
soon to be released 101 S/H & Noise modules all would work with the synths CV 
inputs. I don't know the SH101 or a Prophet 600, but I did use a Pro One for 
a few months and really liked it! I think it has a CV output which would work 
from the keys and the sequencer and could drive the MOTM (and the other 
synths' CV inputs too, if they have them). I also seem to recall it having a 
S/H and a glide (lag) feature somewhere, so you could use your experiences 
with those modules to determine whether you feel those would be of interest 
to you as a general all purpose module.

As far as processing sounds go, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the ever 
popular MOTM 410 VC Triple Resonant Filter. I seem to remember this being 
everyone's favorite processing module. The module has three bandpass filters 
with individual frequency adjustments and a built in LFO which can configured 
in a few different ways, it also has three CV inputs. It can sound a bit like 
a phaser but has a great deal of flexibility.

It would be difficult to choose just two modules, but that's what's great 
about modular -- as you start to get a bunch of modules, the whole system 
becomes much more flexible with each new one.

John Barlow

When was the last time you went to a rave? Last time I went I saw
lots 
of kids munching pills in a dark warehouse listening to repetitive 
electronic music...

 
> "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected us as
kids, 
> we'd all be running around in
> darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive
electronic 
music."

"Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected us as 
kids, 
> we'd all be running around in
> darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic 
music."

Damn, I can't work this computer...

Anyway, this is my 3rd attempt to write this...

when was the last time you went to a rave? I try not to frequent such 
places, but the last time I was to one, I saw many kids munching pills 
(extasy) in dark rooms (a warehouse) with repetitive electronic music 
(trance techno)

BTW: I'm not trying to flame anyone, I just found the coincidence 
ironic... -Nate


> "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected us as kids, 
> we'd all be running around in
> darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic 
music."

I think that was the joke ;) We were just laughing at this quote today here
at the office...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Hunsicker [mailto:nate@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 3:27 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: [motm] OT: signatures
> 
> 
> When was the last time you went to a rave? Last time I went I saw
> lots 
> of kids munching pills in a dark warehouse listening to repetitive 
> electronic music...
> 
>  
> > "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected us as
> kids, 
> > we'd all be running around in
> > darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive
> electronic 
> music."
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

I'm pretty sure there was some implied irony there...  ;)

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Nathan Hunsicker [mailto:nate@...] 
Sent:	Friday, 05 January, 2001 3:27 PM
To:	motm@egroups.com
Subject:	[motm] OT: signatures

When was the last time you went to a rave? Last time I went I saw
lots 
of kids munching pills in a dark warehouse listening to repetitive 
electronic music...

 
> "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected us as
kids, 
> we'd all be running around in
> darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive
electronic 
music."

I do believe that was the point of the quote-- irony.  ;)

--PBr

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Nathan Hunsicker [SMTP:nate@...]
> Sent:	Friday, January 05, 2001 12:33 PM
> To:	motm@egroups.com
> Subject:	[motm] OT: Signatures
> 
> Damn, I can't work this computer...
> 
> Anyway, this is my 3rd attempt to write this...
> 
> when was the last time you went to a rave? I try not to frequent such 
> places, but the last time I was to one, I saw many kids munching pills 
> (extasy) in dark rooms (a warehouse) with repetitive electronic music 
> (trance techno)
> 
> BTW: I'm not trying to flame anyone, I just found the coincidence 
> ironic... -Nate
> 
> 
> > "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected us as
> kids, 
> > we'd all be running around in
> > darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic 
> music."
> 
> 
> 
>

we recieved all 3 your OT messages to the list!
Jim

Nathan Hunsicker wrote:

> Damn, I can't work this computer...
>
> Anyway, this is my 3rd attempt to write this...
>
> when was the last time you went to a rave? I try not to frequent such
> places, but the last time I was to one, I saw many kids munching pills
> (extasy) in dark rooms (a warehouse) with repetitive electronic music
> (trance techno)
>
> BTW: I'm not trying to flame anyone, I just found the coincidence
> ironic... -Nate
>
> > "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected us as kids,
> > we'd all be running around in
> > darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic
> music."

At 11:55 AM 1/5/01 -0500, you wrote:
>I would seriously consider another 420; the sound-shaping possibilities with
>two are much more than doubled. Or, you could get a 440 filter and play with
>using that and the 420 (in low-pass mode). For CVs, you will be very happy
>with the 320 LFO. It is incredibly useful, and if you get yourself a drum
>machine or interface with trigger outs,

i've been using my 909 to trigger the 101 and a 727 to trigger the eg and 
it works great.

>  you can use that to reset the LFO
>wave for rhythmic effects. You don't need to do it that way, but it might
>work well with your setup. The SH-101 makes a great sequencer for MOTM, btw.
>I use it to sequence my 300 oscillator, my filter cutoff frequencies, etc.
>all the time.

I was thinking of just getting another filter, probably the 440, but I also 
want to build up my MOTM to be a true synth.
I imagine I need to add an osc and some other things, but I don't know what 
order to go in so that I have the maximum functionality as I add modules.
Paul keeps telling me to talk to you since I will probably be running a 
(MOTM) setup much like yours real minimal techno. Any comments are appreciated.

thanks,


chad phillips
http://cfiend.home.mindspring.com/
icq: 9033549 IM: ihatesushi

"Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected us as kids, 
we'd all be running around in
darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."

Whoops--I've been awfully busy at work. I guess your comments below were
directed to me. Sorry I've been so long in responding!

My best advice is to go with whatever's working for you right now. I "grew"
my system (and continue to do so) organically--I buy and build modules to
fit my immediate needs and desires. For example, when I realized I was using
the 320 LFO in almost every patch and still wanted more, I got a second one.
When I realized I was filtering kick drums on almost every track with the
440, I bought a second one. It took me a long time to buy an oscillator
because I was using other synths/machines with the filters and didn't want
to spend the money on the osc when I could get another filter. 

Also, you can work with other modules as tone-generating devices. For
example, use a self-oscillating filter as a sine-wave oscillator, then run
it through the 120 to "clip" the sine and get a square-ish wave (and mix the
outputs for more variation). Use an LFO as an audio-range oscillator. 

The 700 router is a relatively inexpensive module that's extremely useful to
me for minimal techno work; you can set up all kinds of changes with it that
lend themselves well to repetition. E.g. use a trigger on the beat to
trigger the LFO, send that into the 700, and use that to send a drum loop
into two different filters--or send the drum loop into two filters and use
the 700 to switch between which filtered loop will make it to your mixer.
Peter and I were using both switches on a 700 yesterday to switch the
destinations of an LFO to cool effect. 

Eventually you'll want two or more oscillators if you want your system to be
a "proper" subtractive synth. But you can go on forever without any and
still have an amazing box of tools for creating sounds no one has heard
before.

Or like me, you can create sounds no one *wants* to hear ;)

David.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: phases [mailto:cfiend@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 4:32 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [motm] suggestions on my next module... anyone
> 
> 
> At 11:55 AM 1/5/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >I would seriously consider another 420; the sound-shaping 
> possibilities with
> >two are much more than doubled. Or, you could get a 440 
> filter and play with
> >using that and the 420 (in low-pass mode). For CVs, you will 
> be very happy
> >with the 320 LFO. It is incredibly useful, and if you get 
> yourself a drum
> >machine or interface with trigger outs,
> 
> i've been using my 909 to trigger the 101 and a 727 to 
> trigger the eg and 
> it works great.
> 
> >  you can use that to reset the LFO
> >wave for rhythmic effects. You don't need to do it that way, 
> but it might
> >work well with your setup. The SH-101 makes a great 
> sequencer for MOTM, btw.
> >I use it to sequence my 300 oscillator, my filter cutoff 
> frequencies, etc.
> >all the time.
> 
> I was thinking of just getting another filter, probably the 
> 440, but I also 
> want to build up my MOTM to be a true synth.
> I imagine I need to add an osc and some other things, but I 
> don't know what 
> order to go in so that I have the maximum functionality as I 
> add modules.
> Paul keeps telling me to talk to you since I will probably be 
> running a 
> (MOTM) setup much like yours real minimal techno. Any 
> comments are appreciated.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> 
> chad phillips
> http://cfiend.home.mindspring.com/
> icq: 9033549 IM: ihatesushi
> 
> "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean, if Pacman affected 
> us as kids, 
> we'd all be running around in
> darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive 
> electronic music."
> 
> 
> 
>