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OT: Whitney

Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney

2012-02-23 by fdoddy@aol.com

I must agree.

fritz
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From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 4:50 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney


  
    
                  
I think this guy gets it spot-on.


http://tellingfrombirdstoll.tumblr.com/post/17887802849/whitney-a-death-or-the-parable-of-the-toyota-corolla 



-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney

2012-02-23 by Mike Dickson

Glad someone does. And as much as I hate to say it, that note from that song is sung between 15 and 20 cents flat.

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On 23 February 2012 22:07, <fdoddy@aol.com> wrote:

I must agree.

fritz



Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney

2012-02-23 by fdoddy@aol.com

I'm not as sensitive to that, as some of my favorite singers are all over the place if you scope them. But, they all know where they SHOULD be, and so did Ms. Houston.  I just had problems with her interpretation per the article you sent.


fritz
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 5:16 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney


  
    
                  
Glad someone does. And as much as I hate to say it, that note from that song is sung between 15 and 20 cents flat.  



On 23 February 2012 22:07,  <fdoddy@aol.com> wrote:

 
  
    
                  
I must agree.

fritz

Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney

2012-02-24 by gino wong

Sarah Vaughn she was not. What she did was fashion, showbiz, not music. Music is incidental to people in her situation. Confluential to selling shit.

She sang Hugh Hopper's "Memories" with Material and they had the nerve to put it out as a 12"
That was some sad shit.
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:37 PM, <fdoddy@aol.com> wrote:

I'm not as sensitive to that, as some of my favorite singers are all over the place if you scope them. But, they all know where they SHOULD be, and so did Ms. Houston. I just had problems with her interpretation per the article you sent.


fritz



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 5:16 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney

Glad someone does. And as much as I hate to say it, that note from that song is sung between 15 and 20 cents flat.

On 23 February 2012 22:07, <fdoddy@aol.com> wrote:
I must agree.

fritz





--
"All music is folk music; I ain't never heard no horse sing a song."
Louis Armstrong


Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE, CG, CSEC
Audio Production, Logistics, Analog Synthesizers, Sound Design




OT: Whitney Houston - Memories

2012-02-24 by Robert

Gino, thanks for pointing out to us that Whitney Houston sang "Memories"; I never knew that.


I didn't follow Whitney Houston, but I always loved Soft Machine.

Respectfully, I don't think Material's version with WH is all that bad.  "Memories" is such a great song, it's hard to ruin it.

So below is Material's cover and the original Soft Machine single.

BTW, RIP Mr. Hugh Hopper...


Robert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3CZPNT9GSs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69k03G21ftw&feature=related





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 From: gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney
 

  
Sarah Vaughn she was not.  What she did was fashion, showbiz, not music. Music is incidental to people in her situation.  Confluential to selling shit.

She sang Hugh Hopper's "Memories" with Material and they had the nerve to put it out as a 12"
That was some sad shit.

Correction - OT: Whitney Houston - Memories

2012-02-24 by Robert

I didn't mean to infer that the original recording of this song was done by Soft Machine; it's their version that I associate the song with.

To the best of my knowledge, I believe it was actually 1st recorded by The Wilde Flowers, the predecessor group to Soft Machine and Caravan which included several members of both line ups of these subsequent groups.

Robert



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 From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:23 PM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney Houston - Memories
 

  
Gino, thanks for pointing out to us that Whitney Houston sang "Memories"; I never knew that.


I didn't follow Whitney Houston, but I always loved Soft Machine.

Respectfully, I don't think Material's version with WH is all that bad.  "Memories" is such a great song, it's hard to ruin it.

So below is Material's cover and the original Soft Machine single.

BTW, RIP Mr. Hugh Hopper...


Robert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3CZPNT9GSs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69k03G21ftw&feature=related





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 From: gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney
 

  
Sarah Vaughn she was not.  What she did was fashion, showbiz, not music. Music is incidental to people in her situation.  Confluential to selling shit.

She sang Hugh Hopper's "Memories" with Material and they had the nerve to put it out as a 12"
That was some sad shit.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Correction - OT: Whitney Houston - Memories - still OT

2012-02-24 by Vance Pomeroy

Robert -
Still OT, but when I went to watch/listen to the Soft Machine version 
(thank you very much), I clicked over onto this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frhOmiyifp0&feature=related 
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frhOmiyifp0&feature=related>
Being a Holdsworth fan, this was very cool to watch - live at Montreux, 
Allan not only sings a little (eek), but at 2:05 he's ear-tuning his SG 
with the volume down - gotta love it....
Vance
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On 2/24/2012 12:43 PM, Robert wrote:
> I didn't mean to infer that the original recording of this song was 
> done by Soft Machine; it's their version that I associate the song with.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, I believe it was actually 1st recorded by 
> The Wilde Flowers, the predecessor group to Soft Machine and Caravan 
> which included several members of both line ups of these subsequent 
> groups.
>
> Robert
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com>
> *To:* "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" 
> <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 3:23 PM
> *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney Houston - Memories
>
> Gino, thanks for pointing out to us that Whitney Houston sang 
> "Memories"; I never knew that.
>
> I didn't follow Whitney Houston, but I always loved Soft Machine.
>
> Respectfully, I don't think Material's version with WH is all that 
> bad.  "Memories" is such a great song, it's hard to ruin it.
>
> So below is Material's cover and the original Soft Machine single.
>
> BTW, RIP Mr. Hugh Hopper...
>
> Robert
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3CZPNT9GSs
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69k03G21ftw&feature=related
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> *From:* gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 12:28 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney
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> Sarah Vaughn she was not.  What she did was fashion, showbiz, not 
> music. Music is incidental to people in her situation.  Confluential 
> to selling shit.
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> She sang Hugh Hopper's "Memories" with Material and they had the nerve 
> to put it out as a 12"
> That was some sad shit.
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Correction - OT: Whitney Houston - Memories

2012-02-25 by gino wong

I was a bit harsh.. They know the song, they played it. They did nothing with it that wasn't altready done. When it came out I was expecting more. How do you compete with Robert Wyatt ?

The upside is Hugh got paid, I liked Hugh Hopper, did a recording with him and Alan Gowen in the early 80s. A peak experience.

g

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> wrote:

I didn't mean to infer that the original recording of this song was done by Soft Machine; it's their version that I associate the song with.

To the best of my knowledge, I believe it was actually 1st recorded by The Wilde Flowers, the predecessor group to Soft Machine and Caravan which included several members of both line ups of these subsequent groups.

Robert

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From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:23 PM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney Houston - Memories

Gino, thanks for pointing out to us that Whitney Houston sang "Memories"; I never knew that.

I didn't follow Whitney Houston, but I always loved Soft Machine.

Respectfully, I don't think Material's version with WH is all that bad. "Memories" is such a great song, it';s hard to ruin it.

So below is Material's cover and the original Soft Machine single.

BTW, RIP Mr. Hugh Hopper...

Robert





From: gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney

Sarah Vaughn she was not. What she did was fashion, showbiz, not music. Music is incidental to people in her situation. Confluential to selling shit.

She sang Hugh Hopper's "Memories" with Material and they had the nerve to put it out as a 12"
That was some sad shit.












--
"All music is folk music; I ain't never heard no horse sing a song."
Louis Armstrong


Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE, CG, CSEC
Audio Production, Logistics, Analog Synthesizers, Sound Design




OT: Whitney Houston - Memories, Hugh Hopper and Alan Gowen

2012-02-26 by Robert

Gino,

Please see below...



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 From: gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Correction - OT: Whitney Houston - Memories
 

  
I was a bit harsh.. They know the song, they played it.  They did nothing with it that wasn't already done.  When it came out I was expecting more.  How do you compete with Robert Wyatt?
What other covers of "Memories" do you know of ?
RW is one of my favorite musicians.  I have all of his solo albums and numerous albums he guests on.  You're right, it's hard to compete with him.

The upside is Hugh got paid,  I liked Hugh Hopper, did a recording with him and Alan Gowen in the early 80s. A peak experience.

Alan Gowen (RIP) died at a very young age from Leukemia in 1981.  The Gigamesh albums are wonderful; same with his contributions to National Health.  I have the albums "Two Rainbows Daily", "Soft Heap", and "Rogue Element" too.  Also, "Before A Word Is Said" with Phil Miller, Richard Sinclair, and Trevor Tomkins.  Were you involved in any of these projects ?  That must have been cool !

Robert




On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> wrote:

 
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>I didn't mean to infer that the original recording of this song was done by Soft Machine; it's their version that I associate the song with.
>
>
>To the best of my knowledge, I believe it was actually 1st recorded by The Wilde Flowers, the predecessor group to Soft Machine and Caravan which included several members of both line ups of these subsequent groups.
>
>
>Robert
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>________________________________
> From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com>
>To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:23 PM
>Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney Houston - Memories
> 
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>  
>Gino, thanks for pointing out to us that Whitney Houston sang "Memories"; I never knew that.
>
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>
>I didn't follow Whitney Houston, but I always loved Soft Machine.
>
>
>Respectfully, I don't think Material's version with WH is all that bad.  "Memories" is such a great song, it's hard to ruin it.
>
>
>So below is Material's cover and the original Soft Machine single.
>
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>BTW, RIP Mr. Hugh Hopper...
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>Robert
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3CZPNT9GSs
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69k03G21ftw&feature=related
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> From: gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney
> 
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>Sarah Vaughn she was not.  What she did was fashion, showbiz, not music. Music is incidental to people in her situation.  Confluential to selling shit.
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>She sang Hugh Hopper's "Memories" with Material and they had the nerve to put it out as a 12"
>That was some sad shit.
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-- 
"All music is folk music; I ain't never heard no horse sing a song."
Louis Armstrong


Gino Wong Birgelo  
BSComm, BSEE, CG, CSEC  
Audio Production, Logistics, Analog Synthesizers, Sound Design


Ginowong@gmail.com

OT: Alan Holdsworth

2012-02-26 by Robert

Vance,

Thank you for your post and comments...


I like AH too and have both albums he did with Tempest as well as'Igginbottoms Wrenchfrom 1969, Gong's Expresso /Gazeuse! album from 1976, the 1st U.K. album, his work with the Tony William's Lifetime, Gorden Beck, and several of his solo albums.  He is a fine guitarist indeed. 


Soft Machine's "Bundles" (studio album) from 1975 (the clip you posted was a live performance of 1 of the songs from that album) is amongst one of my favorite 1970s jazz-fusion records.

Robert



________________________________
 From: Vance Pomeroy <vance@juniperpacific.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Correction - OT: Whitney Houston - Memories - still OT
 

  
Robert -
Still OT, but when I went to watch/listen to the Soft Machine
    version (thank you very much), I clicked over onto this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frhOmiyifp0&feature=related
Being a Holdsworth fan, this was very cool to watch - live at
    Montreux, Allan not only sings a little (eek), but at 2:05 he's
    ear-tuning his SG with the volume down - gotta love it....
Vance
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On 2/24/2012 12:43 PM, Robert wrote: 
  
>I didn't mean to infer that the original recording of this song was done by Soft Machine; it's their version that I associate the song with.
>
>
>To the best of my knowledge, I believe it was actually 1st recorded by The Wilde Flowers, the predecessor group to Soft Machine and Caravan which included several members of both line ups of these subsequent groups.
>
>
>Robert
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com>
>To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:23 PM
>Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney Houston - Memories
> 
>
>  
>Gino, thanks for pointing out to us that Whitney Houston sang "Memories"; I never knew that.
>
>
>
>I didn't follow Whitney Houston, but I always loved Soft Machine.
>
>
>Respectfully, I don't think Material's version with WH is all that bad.  "Memories" is such a great song, it's hard to ruin it.
>
>
>So below is Material's cover and the original Soft Machine single.
>
>
>BTW, RIP Mr. Hugh Hopper...
>
>
>
>Robert
>
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3CZPNT9GSs
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69k03G21ftw&feature=related
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>________________________________
> From: gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: Whitney
> 
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>Sarah Vaughn she was not.  What she did was fashion, showbiz, not music. Music is incidental to people in her situation.  Confluential to selling shit.
>
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>She sang Hugh Hopper's "Memories" with Material and they had the nerve to put it out as a 12"
>That was some sad shit. 
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