Self-indulgent crap
2012-04-10 by mellotronmadness
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2012-04-10 by mellotronmadness
2012-04-10 by lsf5275@aol.com
Be careful..;. the guy who posted that is a friend of ours. In a message dated 4/10/2012 5:06:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au writes: Now this is self-indulgent crap! _Self-indulgent crap_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe7Tol9w3wk&feature=youtu.be) Warning this is only mellotronish. Mark
2012-04-10 by ClayE
I like the middle section. Very good flow and timing. How did you like working with the Korg Microsampler? Your M300a samples sound sweet. Clay --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "mellotronmadness" <mellotronmadness@...> wrote:
> > Now this is self-indulgent crap! > Self-indulgent crap > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe7Tol9w3wk&feature=youtu.be> > Warning this is only mellotronish. > Mark >
2012-04-10 by mellotronmadness
Thanks Clay, I haven't had the microsampler long but it is easy and fun to use. It has 8 banks which can take 180 secs of samples at 48 khz, it has a range of 3 octaves but not the same 3 as the tron. These samples are 12khz it would only take 10 at 48 khz. It has minikeys but it is a lot easier to play than the microkorg. Has a built in sequencer which I haven't managed to work out how to use yet. Overall very good value for money. Mark --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
> > I like the middle section. Very good flow and timing. How did you like working with the Korg Microsampler? Your M300a samples sound sweet. > > Clay > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "mellotronmadness" <mellotronmadness@> wrote: > > > > Now this is self-indulgent crap! > > Self-indulgent crap > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe7Tol9w3wk&feature=youtu.be> > > Warning this is only mellotronish. > > Mark > > >
2012-04-11 by John Wright
I kind of liked it. John #911
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:07 AM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Self-indulgent crap Now this is self-indulgent crap! Self-indulgent crap<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe7Tol9w3wk&feature=youtu.be> Warning this is only mellotronish. Mark
2012-04-11 by R l
I kind of liked it.
John
#911
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2012-04-11 by John Wright
BTW, welcome aboard Roberto. Good group here with plenty of Tron and OT information. John #911
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of R l Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:14 AM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Self-indulgent crap It would fit nicely in most prog rock albums... ________________________________ To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com From: john.wright@consona.com Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:07:40 +0000 Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Self-indulgent crap I kind of liked it. John #911 From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:07 AM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Self-indulgent crap Now this is self-indulgent crap! Self-indulgent crap<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe7Tol9w3wk&feature=youtu.be> Warning this is only mellotronish. Mark
2012-04-11 by R l
BTW, welcome aboard Roberto. Good group here with plenty of Tron and OT information.
John
#911
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of R l
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It would fit nicely in most prog rock albums...
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From: john.wright@consona.com
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:07:40 +0000
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Self-indulgent crap
I kind of liked it.
John
#911
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2012-04-11 by tron400
I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when complete. Bernie BTW, Welcome Roberto!
2012-04-11 by R l
2012-04-11 by Tony
Welcome Roberto! A man with similar interests, I look forward to hearing your rendition of “Mysterious Semblance”, as I’m a major fan of T-Dream. Most anything German, (except their cars) interests me, so bring it on! Tony
From: R l Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:32 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover. best y'all Roberto -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com From: tron400@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000 Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when complete. Bernie BTW, Welcome Roberto!
2012-04-11 by mellotronmadness
Welcome Roberto, I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list. Cheers Mark --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@...> wrote:
> > > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover. > best y'all > Roberto > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > From: tron400@... > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000 > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when complete. > > > > Bernie > > > > BTW, Welcome Roberto! >
2012-04-11 by Andy Kinch
OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... I'll get my coat. Andy K PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! Andy Kinch kinchmusic@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45 Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap Welcome Roberto, I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list. Cheers Mark --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@...> wrote:
> > > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover. > best y'all > Roberto > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > From: tron400@... > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000 > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when complete. > > > > Bernie > > > > BTW, Welcome Roberto! >
2012-04-11 by mellotronmadness
Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be here? Bring on the block chords! Mark PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it later, sounds good though. --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
> > > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... > > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... > > > > > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... > > I'll get my coat. > > Andy K > > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > > > > Andy Kinch > kinchmusic@... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45 > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > Welcome Roberto, > > I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list. > > Cheers > > Mark > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover. > > best y'all > > Roberto > > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > From: tron400@ > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000 > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when complete. > > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > BTW, Welcome Roberto! > > >
2012-04-12 by R l
2012-04-12 by Tony
Roberto you have joined the correct group of people. Are there any other chords besides minors? Tony From: R l Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:24 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap My oh my ...this is pure heaven miserable souls like me who love minor chords !!! Who could ask for more!! ...last night I indulged on Lizard & Islands...all versions !! remastered..original...whatever...plenty of Trons all over...slept sooo well... best y'all Roberto -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com From: mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be here? Bring on the block chords! Mark PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it later, sounds good though. --- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
> > > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... > > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... > > > > > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... > > I'll get my coat. > > Andy K > > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > > > > Andy Kinch > kinchmusic@... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...> > To: newmellotrongroup <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45 > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > Welcome Roberto, > > I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list. > > Cheers > > Mark > > --- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover. > > best y'all > > Roberto > > > > To: mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com > > From: tron400@ > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000 > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when complete. > > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > BTW, Welcome Roberto! > > >
2012-04-12 by fdoddy@aol.com
This is where I part ways. I don't love chords. It's all tension and release for me. Had to write a Copland-esque piece at work today...entirely linear and horizontal and not a "chord" to be found...just the vodka talking now.
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 11, 2012 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Roberto you have joined the correct group of people.
Are there any other chords besides minors?
Tony
From: R l
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:24 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
My oh my ...this is pure heaven miserable souls like me who love minor chords !!! Who could ask for more!! ...last night I indulged on Lizard & Islands...all versions !! remastered..original...whatever...plenty of Trons all over...slept sooo well...
best y'all
Roberto
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be here? Bring on the block chords!
Mark
PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it later, sounds good though.
--- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:> > > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... > > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... > > > > > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... > > I'll get my coat. > > Andy K > > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > > > > Andy Kinch > kinchmusic@... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...> > To: newmellotrongroup <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45 > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > Welcome Roberto, > > I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list. > > Cheers > > Mark > > --- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover. > > best y'all > > Roberto > > > > To: mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com > > From: tron400@ > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000 > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when complete. > > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > BTW, Welcome Roberto! > > >
2012-04-12 by R l
2012-04-12 by R l
2012-04-12 by Tony
Thanks Roberto, but I should have said “speaking for myself”, oh well I like a hot lead line too, just better at chords. Tony From: R l Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:23 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap Hi TOny, Just what the doctor ordered this site...of course there's nothing else besides minors...just as Ian Stewart (Stones) used to say..."if the key is major I won't play it"!!! Every e-mail is a big laughter! I really appreciate being here. Thank y'all Roberto -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com From: atm655@verizon.net Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:46:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap Roberto you have joined the correct group of people. Are there any other chords besides minors? Tony From: R l Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:24 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap My oh my ...this is pure heaven miserable souls like me who love minor chords !!! Who could ask for more!! ...last night I indulged on Lizard & Islands...all versions !! remastered..original...whatever...plenty of Trons all over...slept sooo well... best y'all Roberto -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com From: mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be here? Bring on the block chords! Mark PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it later, sounds good though. --- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
> > > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... > > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... > > > > > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... > > I'll get my coat. > > Andy K > > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > > > > Andy Kinch > kinchmusic@... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...> > To: newmellotrongroup <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45 > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > Welcome Roberto, > > I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list. > > Cheers > > Mark > > --- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover. > > best y'all > > Roberto > > > > To: mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com > > From: tron400@ > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000 > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when complete. > > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > BTW, Welcome Roberto! > > >
2012-04-12 by fdoddy@aol.com
I can't stand Glass! Steve Reich without the genius baggage. Roedelius is too juvenile for me, way too many major chords. It's all a gentle ballet now, isn't it?
cheers,
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 11, 2012 9:26 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
It sounds like you Od'd in Phillip Glass...Einstein on the Beach backwards...how about that ?...or more like Roedelius ?
best
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: fdoddy@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:06:33 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
This is where I part ways. I don't love chords. It's all tension and release for me. Had to write a Copland-esque piece at work today...entirely linear and horizontal and not a "chord" to be found...just the vodka talking now.
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 11, 2012 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Roberto you have joined the correct group of people.
Are there any other chords besides minors?
Tony
From: R l
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:24 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
My oh my ...this is pure heaven miserable souls like me who love minor chords !!! Who could ask for more!! ...last night I indulged on Lizard & Islands...all versions !! remastered..original...whatever...plenty of Trons all over...slept sooo well...
best y'all
Roberto
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be here? Bring on the block chords!
Mark
PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it later, sounds good though.
--- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:> > > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... > > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... > > > > > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... > > I'll get my coat. > > Andy K > > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > > > > Andy Kinch > kinchmusic@... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...> > To: newmellotrongroup <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45 > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > Welcome Roberto, > > I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list. > > Cheers > > Mark > > --- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover. > > best y'all > > Roberto > > > > To: mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com > > From: tron400@ > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000 > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when complete. > > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > BTW, Welcome Roberto! > > >
2012-04-12 by R l
2012-04-12 by lsf5275@aol.com
Tony likes his women like he likes his chords... Just kidding!
In a message dated 4/11/2012 9:23:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bluesrock77@hotmail.com writes:
Hi TOny,
Just what the doctor ordered this site...of course there's nothing else
besides minors...just as Ian Stewart (Stones) used to say..."if the key is
major I won't play it"!!!
Every e-mail is a big laughter! I really appreciate being here.
Thank y'all
Roberto
____________________________________
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: atm655@verizon.net
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:46:41 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Roberto you have joined the correct group of people.
Are there any other chords besides minors?
Tony
From: _R l_ (mailto:bluesrock77@hotmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:24 PM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
My oh my ...this is pure heaven miserable souls like me who love minor
chords !!! Who could ask for more!! ...last night I indulged on Lizard &
Islands...all versions !! remastered..original...whatever...plenty of Trons all
over...slept sooo well...
best y'all
Roberto
____________________________________
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be
here? Bring on the block chords!
Mark
PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it
later, sounds good though.
--- In _mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
>
> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
>
> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose
the wrong moment to record this then...
>
>
>
>
> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
>
> I'll get my coat.
>
> Andy K
>
> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of
miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the
end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
>
>
>
> Andy Kinch
> kinchmusic@...
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <_mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
> Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
>
>
>
>
> Welcome Roberto,
>
> I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major
chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very
self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post
it to the list.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
> --- In _mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , R l <bluesrock77@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I
understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending
massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all
minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine
Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's
"Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND
pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover.
> > best y'all
> > Roberto
> >
> > To: _mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
> > From: tron400@
> > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
> >
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> > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when
complete.> > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > BTW, Welcome Roberto! > > >
2012-04-12 by lsf5275@aol.com
Anyone who enjoys self-indulgent crap will want to go here.
_www.facebook.com/get.mel_ (http://www.facebook.com/get.mel)
In a message dated 4/11/2012 10:31:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bluesrock77@hotmail.com writes:
WHat about some more vodka...in your Glass? Sorry, couldn't help
myself...what about some Asmus Tietchens ? Too sterile?
best,
Roberto
____________________________________
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: fdoddy@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:27:02 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
I can't stand Glass! Steve Reich without the genius baggage. Roedelius is
too juvenile for me, way too many major chords. It's all a gentle ballet
now, isn't it?
cheers,
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 11, 2012 9:26 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
It sounds like you Od'd in Phillip Glass...Einstein on the Beach
backwards...how about that ?...or more like Roedelius ?
best
____________________________________
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
From: _fdoddy@aol.com_ (mailto:fdoddy@aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:06:33 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
This is where I part ways. I don't love chords. It's all tension and
release for me. Had to write a Copland-esque piece at work today...entirely
linear and horizontal and not a "chord" to be found...just the vodka talking
now.
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony <_atm655@verizon.net_ (mailto:atm655@verizon.net) >
To: newmellotrongroup <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
Sent: Wed, Apr 11, 2012 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Roberto you have joined the correct group of people.
Are there any other chords besides minors?
Tony
From: _R l_ (mailto:bluesrock77@hotmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:24 PM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
My oh my ...this is pure heaven miserable souls like me who love minor
chords !!! Who could ask for more!! ...last night I indulged on Lizard &
Islands...all versions !! remastered..original...whatever...plenty of Trons all
over...slept sooo well...
best y'all
Roberto
____________________________________
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
From: _mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au_
(mailto:mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be
here? Bring on the block chords!
Mark
PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it
later, sounds good though.
--- In _mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
>
> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
>
> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose
the wrong moment to record this then...
>
>
>
>
> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
>
> I'll get my coat.
>
> Andy K
>
> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of
miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the
end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
>
>
>
> Andy Kinch
> kinchmusic@...
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <_mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
> Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
>
>
>
>
> Welcome Roberto,
>
> I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major
chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very
self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post
it to the list.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
> --- In _mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , R l <bluesrock77@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I
understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending
massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all
minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine
Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's
"Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND
pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover.
> > best y'all
> > Roberto
> >
> > To: _mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
> > From: tron400@
> > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when
complete.> > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > BTW, Welcome Roberto! > > >
2012-04-12 by R l
WHat about some more vodka...in your Glass? Sorry, couldn't help myself...what about some Asmus Tietchens ? Too sterile?best,Roberto
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: fdoddy@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:27:02 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
I can't stand Glass! Steve Reich without the genius baggage. Roedelius is too juvenile for me, way too many major chords. It's all a gentle ballet now, isn't it?
cheers,
fritz-----Original Message-----
From: R l
To: newmellotrongroup
Sent: Wed, Apr 11, 2012 9:26 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
It sounds like you Od'd in Phillip Glass...Einstein on the Beach backwards...how about that ?...or more like Roedelius ?best
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: fdoddy@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:06:33 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
This is where I part ways. I don't love chords. It's all tension and release for me. Had to write a Copland-esque piece at work today...entirely linear and horizontal and not a "chord" to be found...just the vodka talking now.
fritz-----Original Message-----
From: Tony <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 11, 2012 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Roberto you have joined the correct group of people.Are there any other chords besides minors?TonyFrom: R lSent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:24 PMSubject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crapMy oh my ...this is pure heaven miserable souls like me who love minor chords !!! Who could ask for more!! ...last night I indulged on Lizard & Islands...all versions !! remastered..original...whatever...plenty of Trons all over...slept sooo well...best y'allRoberto
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be here? Bring on the block chords!
Mark
PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it later, sounds good though.
--- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, Andy Kinch wrote:
>
>
> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
>
> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
>
>
>
>
> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
>
> I'll get my coat.
>
> Andy K
>
> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
>
>
>
> Andy Kinch
> kinchmusic@...
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mellotronmadness
> To: newmellotrongroup <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
>
>
>
>
> Welcome Roberto,
>
> I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
> --- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, R l wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover.
> > best y'all
> > Roberto
> >
> > To: mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com
> > From: tron400@
> > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000
>; > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when complete.
> >
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> >
> > Bernie
> >
> >
> >
>; > BTW, Welcome Roberto!
> >
>
2012-04-12 by JAMES STRAUSS
Yuri: Do you think it's "personal, petit-bourgeoise and self-indulgent"?
Yevgraf nods and says "yes".
Yevgraf: "I lied. But he believed me, and it struck me through to see that my opinion mattered. The girl knew what it meant, what it was going to mean. They couldn't survive what was coming in the city. I urged them to leave and live obscurely somewhere in the country where they could keep themselves alive."
2012-04-12 by lsf5275@aol.com
Then do what everyone else does...lie.
In a message dated 4/11/2012 10:42:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bluesrock77@hotmail.com writes:
No chance ! Privacy is the name of the game for me. I'm very selective
about where I post my profile...besides, I don't like being 'sold' as
merchandise by these nerds...count me out !
best
____________________________________
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:34:42 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Anyone who enjoys self-indulgent crap will want to go here.
_www.facebook.com/get.mel_ (http://www.facebook.com/get.mel)
In a message dated 4/11/2012 10:31:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bluesrock77@hotmail.com writes:
WHat about some more vodka...in your Glass? Sorry, couldn't help
myself...what about some Asmus Tietchens ? Too sterile?
best,
Roberto
____________________________________
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: fdoddy@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:27:02 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
I can't stand Glass! Steve Reich without the genius baggage. Roedelius is
too juvenile for me, way too many major chords. It's all a gentle ballet
now, isn't it?
cheers,
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 11, 2012 9:26 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
It sounds like you Od'd in Phillip Glass...Einstein on the Beach
backwards...how about that ?...or more like Roedelius ?
best
____________________________________
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
From: _fdoddy@aol.com_ (mailto:fdoddy@aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:06:33 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
This is where I part ways. I don't love chords. It's all tension and
release for me. Had to write a Copland-esque piece at work today...entirely
linear and horizontal and not a "chord" to be found...just the vodka talking
now.
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony <_atm655@verizon.net_ (mailto:atm655@verizon.net) >
To: newmellotrongroup <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
Sent: Wed, Apr 11, 2012 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Roberto you have joined the correct group of people.
Are there any other chords besides minors?
Tony
From: _R l_ (mailto:bluesrock77@hotmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:24 PM
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
My oh my ...this is pure heaven miserable souls like me who love minor
chords !!! Who could ask for more!! ...last night I indulged on Lizard &
Islands...all versions !! remastered..original...whatever...plenty of Trons all
over...slept sooo well...
best y'all
Roberto
____________________________________
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
From: _mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au_
(mailto:mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be
here? Bring on the block chords!
Mark
PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it
later, sounds good though.
--- In _mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
>
> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
>
> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose
the wrong moment to record this then...
>
>
>
>
> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
>
> I'll get my coat.
>
> Andy K
>
> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of
miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the
end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
>
>
>
> Andy Kinch
> kinchmusic@...
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <_mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
> Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
>
>
>
>
> Welcome Roberto,
>
> I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major
chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very
self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post
it to the list.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
> --- In _mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , R l <bluesrock77@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I
understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending
massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all
minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine
Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's
"Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND
pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover.
> > best y'all
> > Roberto
> >
> > To: _mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)
> > From: tron400@
> > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when
complete.> > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > BTW, Welcome Roberto! > > >
2012-04-12 by Tony
That would be a “no”.
Tony
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:32 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Tony likes his women like he likes his chords... Just kidding!
In a message dated 4/11/2012 9:23:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bluesrock77@hotmail.com writes:
Hi TOny,
Just what the doctor ordered this site...of course there's nothing else besides minors...just as Ian Stewart (Stones) used to say..."if the key is major I won't play it"!!!
Every e-mail is a big laughter! I really appreciate being here.
Thank y'all
Roberto
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To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: atm655@verizon.net
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:46:41 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Roberto you have joined the correct group of people.
Are there any other chords besides minors?
Tony
From: R l
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:24 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
My oh my ...this is pure heaven miserable souls like me who love minor chords !!! Who could ask for more!! ...last night I indulged on Lizard & Islands...all versions !! remastered..original...whatever...plenty of Trons all over...slept sooo well...
best y'all
Roberto
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To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be here? Bring on the block chords!
Mark
PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it later, sounds good though.
--- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:> > > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... > > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... > > > > > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... > > I'll get my coat. > > Andy K > > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > > > > Andy Kinch > kinchmusic@... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...> > To: newmellotrongroup <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45 > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > Welcome Roberto, > > I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list. > > Cheers > > Mark > > --- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover. > > best y'all > > Roberto > > > > To: mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com > > From: tron400@ > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000 > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm about to take a self-indulgent crap. Will report back when complete. > > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > BTW, Welcome Roberto! > > >
2012-04-12 by Tom Doncourt
2012-04-12 by marabus
Andy, Congrats on your new album Pete
On 4/11/12 2:56 PM, Andy Kinch wrote: > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I > chose the wrong moment to record this then... > KrackedEarth-SplashEdUnitsky2011-for-web.jpg > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... > I'll get my coat. > Andy K > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of > miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot > at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > > > Andy Kinch > kinchmusic@aol.com >
2012-04-12 by tron400
Sometimes I play just the white notes and sometimes I play just the black notes. Bernie
2012-04-12 by Tony
Just be careful of the “brown” note Tony
From: tron400 Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:15 AM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap Sometimes I play just the white notes and sometimes I play just the black notes. Bernie
2012-04-12 by Robert
2012-04-12 by fdoddy@aol.com
Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. fritz
-----Original Message----- From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads I like both.... My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites. Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. Robert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY From: Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@aol.com> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... I'll get my coat. Andy K PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! Andy Kinch kinchmusic@aol.com
2012-04-12 by John Hammaren
Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it's like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. fritz -----Original Message----- From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com<mailto:rmrmax@yahoo.com>> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads I like both.... My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites. Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. Robert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY ________________________________ From: Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@aol.com<mailto:kinchmusic@aol.com>> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... [cid:image001.jpg@01CD18C4.77C617E0] More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... I'll get my coat. Andy K PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! Andy Kinch kinchmusic@aol.com<mailto:kinchmusic@aol.com>
2012-04-12 by Robert
John, I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too ! I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson. Also, check out Mal Waldron. With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past. Robert ________________________________
From: John Hammaren <hammaren@geoconcepts.com> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff. From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. fritz -----Original Message----- From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads I like both.... My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites. Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. Robert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY ________________________________ From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@aol.com> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... I'll get my coat. Andy K PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! Andy Kinch kinchmusic@aol.com
2012-04-12 by R l
2012-04-12 by john barrick
Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and LeadsI like both....
My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.
Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it.
Robert
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2012-04-12 by John Hammaren
That's the thing about those guys. They were all in a league of their own. Errol may have loved the Tron. One of the things I really enjoy besides about the best left hand I have ever heard is that some of his recordings sounded like they were recorded at our local bar, out of tune upright and all. Combined with his grunting and intensity, well you're right. The Tron would last about ten bars, and then tapes would be flying out of it.
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of R l Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God! best, Roberto ________________________________ To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> From: rmrmax@yahoo.com<mailto:rmrmax@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700 Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. John, I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too ! I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson. Also, check out Mal Waldron. With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past. Robert ________________________________ From: John Hammaren <hammaren@geoconcepts.com<mailto:hammaren@geoconcepts.com>> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it's like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff. From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com<mailto:fdoddy@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. fritz -----Original Message----- From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com<mailto:rmrmax@yahoo.com>> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads I like both.... My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites. Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. Robert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY ________________________________ From: Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@aol.com<mailto:kinchmusic@aol.com>> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... [cid:image001.jpg@01CD18D2.BE907770] More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... I'll get my coat. Andy K PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! Andy Kinch kinchmusic@aol.com<mailto:kinchmusic@aol.com>
2012-04-12 by Robert
Roberto, Maybe you are right ? There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past. Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully. Robert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related ________________________________
From: R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God! best, Roberto ________________________________ To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com From: rmrmax@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700 Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. John, I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too ! I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson. Also, check out Mal Waldron. With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past. Robert ________________________________ From: John Hammaren <hammaren@geoconcepts.com> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff. From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. fritz -----Original Message----- From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads I like both.... My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites. Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. Robert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY ________________________________ From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@aol.com> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... I'll get my coat. Andy K PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! Andy Kinch kinchmusic@aol.com
2012-04-12 by R l
2012-04-12 by fdoddy@aol.com
I also love EG and OP. Monk just sounds so schizo to me, in a good way. He almost sounds nuts at times, and I like that. OP is like a down comforter on a cold winter night, you spend all day thinking about it. fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hammaren <hammaren@geoconcepts.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:54 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
I like both....
My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.
Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it.
Robert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY
From: Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
I'll get my coat.
Andy K
PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
Andy Kinch
kinchmusic@aol.com2012-04-13 by john barrick
John,
I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.Also, check out Mal Waldron.With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.
Robert
2012-04-13 by lsf5275@aol.com
Thelonius Monk on Superfreak... now THAT would have been something! Frank from the outer reaches of myphonesisbroke In a message dated 4/12/2012 3:47:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fdoddy@aol.com writes: Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
2012-04-13 by lsf5275@aol.com
So does mine. :-/ Frank In a message dated 4/12/2012 10:08:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, barrickjohn262@gmail.com writes: Art Tatum is like an insane mathematician with a piano. I'm afraid that sometimes his playing transcends music. On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Robert <_rmrmax@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rmrmax@yahoo.com) > wrote: John, I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too ! I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson. Also, check out Mal Waldron. With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past. Robert ____________________________________ -- john barrick *Leo got it right the first time* *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
2012-04-13 by mellotronmadness
I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer. I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations. Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players. Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player. I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings? Mark PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that! --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@...> wrote:
> > Roberto, > > Maybe you are right ? > > There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past. > > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully. > > > Robert > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related > > > ________________________________ > From: R l <bluesrock77@...> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > > >  > I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so  that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God! > > best, > > Roberto > > > > ________________________________ > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > From: rmrmax@... > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700 > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > > > John, > > I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too ! > > I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson. > > Also, check out Mal Waldron. > > > With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past. > > > Robert > > > ________________________________ > From: John Hammaren <hammaren@...> > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > > >  > Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, itâs like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff. >  > From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@... > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads >  > Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. > > > fritz >  >  >  > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert <rmrmax@...> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > I like both.... >  > My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites. >  > Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. >  > Robert >  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY >  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY >  > > ________________________________ > > From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap >  > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... >  > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... >  >  > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... >  > I'll get my coat. >  > Andy K >  > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > > >  > Andy Kinch > kinchmusic@... >  >  >
2012-04-13 by Mike Dickson
Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.Robert
2012-04-13 by tronbros
There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic! Best, M mellotronics.co.uk
On 13 Apr 2012, at 07:26, "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote: > I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer. > > I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations. > > Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players. > > Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player. > > I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings? > > Mark > > PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that! > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@...> wrote: > > > > Roberto, > > > > Maybe you are right ? > > > > There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past. > > > > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully. > > > > > > Robert > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: R l <bluesrock77@...> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM > > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > > > > > >  > > I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so  that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God! > > > > best, > > > > Roberto > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > From: rmrmax@... > > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700 > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > > > > > > John, > > > > I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too ! > > > > I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson. > > > > Also, check out Mal Waldron. > > > > > > With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past. > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: John Hammaren <hammaren@...> > > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM > > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > > > > > >  > > Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff. > >  > > From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@... > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > >  > > Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. > > > > > > fritz > >  > >  > >  > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert <rmrmax@...> > > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > > I like both.... > >  > > My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites. > >  > > Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. > >  > > Robert > >  > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY > >  > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY > >  > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > >  > > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... > >  > > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... > >  > >  > > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... > >  > > I'll get my coat. > >  > > Andy K > >  > > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > > > > > >  > > Andy Kinch > > kinchmusic@... > >  > >  > > > >
2012-04-13 by tronbros
Check out John Medeski. He can play wild stuff on a 'tron, even an unserviced one! A mellotron can be made to have a super light playing action that is redponsive and fast if needed. The standard setting that left the factory was a belt and braces adjustment to defeat any climatic change or mishandling. Hence the block chord playing most of the time. M mellotronics.co.uk
On 13 Apr 2012, at 08:45, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully. > > Robert > > > I'm a huge fan of Robert Wyatt and love the way he tortured the Mellotron on Matching Mole's first record, but to me jazz and the Mellotron just don't go together. The playing limitations of the instrument are one thing, but there is something a little deeper. Jazz (to me) was always about 'precise imprecision', or in other words the way that very good musicians can play together in a way that sounds all over the map but which is actually pretty tight. On the other hand, the Tron is the exact opposite - it's imprecise precision, in that few notes are really in tune (or are only close to it) and has absolutely no way of playing anything very quickly. I'd have thought most jazz types would run a mile from a Mellotron!! > > Mike >
2012-04-13 by mellotronmadness
As far as I'm concerned there isn't, my piano tuner used to play one in an NZ band in the 70's he insists there was delay in the one he used to play as well. I forgive him because he does a great job on my piano. Mark --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
> > There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic! > > Best, > > M > > mellotronics.co.uk > > > > On 13 Apr 2012, at 07:26, "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@...> wrote: > > > I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer. > > > > I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations. > > > > Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players. > > > > Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player. > > > > I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings? > > > > Mark > > > > PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that! > > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@> wrote: > > > > > > Roberto, > > > > > > Maybe you are right ? > > > > > > There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to.à Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past. > > > > > > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully. > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: R l <bluesrock77@> > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM > > > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > > > > > > > > > à > > > I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so à that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God! > > > > > > best, > > > > > > Roberto > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > > From: rmrmax@ > > > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700 > > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > > > > > > > > > John, > > > > > > I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too ! > > > > > > I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson. > > > > > > Also, check out Mal Waldron. > > > > > > > > > With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past. > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: John Hammaren <hammaren@> > > > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM > > > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > > > > > > > > > à > > > Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, itââ¬â¢s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff. > > > à > > > From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@ > > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > > > à > > > Oh man!à If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. > > > > > > > > > fritz > > > à > > > à > > > à > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Robert <rmrmax@> > > > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm > > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > > > I like both.... > > > à > > > My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music.à Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.à > > > à > > > Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. > > > à > > > Robert > > > à > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY > > > à > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY > > > à > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@> > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM > > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > > > à > > > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... > > > à > > > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... > > > à > > > à > > > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... > > > à > > > I'll get my coat. > > > à > > > Andy K > > > à > > > PS.à On the off chance thatà anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap.à The albumà should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > > > > > > > > > à > > > Andy Kinch > > > kinchmusic@ > > > à > > > à > > > > > > > >
2012-04-13 by mellotronmadness
There is a good example of fast tron playing in Camel's Never let go as well --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
> > Check out John Medeski. He can play wild stuff on a 'tron, even an unserviced one! A mellotron can be made to have a super light playing action that is redponsive and fast if needed. The standard setting that left the factory was a belt and braces adjustment to defeat any climatic change or mishandling. Hence the block chord playing most of the time. > > M > > mellotronics.co.uk > > > > On 13 Apr 2012, at 08:45, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully. > > > > Robert > > > > > > I'm a huge fan of Robert Wyatt and love the way he tortured the Mellotron on Matching Mole's first record, but to me jazz and the Mellotron just don't go together. The playing limitations of the instrument are one thing, but there is something a little deeper. Jazz (to me) was always about 'precise imprecision', or in other words the way that very good musicians can play together in a way that sounds all over the map but which is actually pretty tight. On the other hand, the Tron is the exact opposite - it's imprecise precision, in that few notes are really in tune (or are only close to it) and has absolutely no way of playing anything very quickly. I'd have thought most jazz types would run a mile from a Mellotron!! > > > > Mike > > >
2012-04-13 by Andy Thompson
----- Original Message -----
From: "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@gmail.com> To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:26 AM Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Tron & Jazz I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings? Mark I haven't been able to trace anything - I get the impression that he used his MkV (didn't someone come on here a year or two back to say they'd bought it?) to work out his horn charts - I s'pose it was the only keyboard in the mid-'70s that you could even attempt that on. Andy T.
2012-04-13 by Andy Thompson
----- Original Message -----
From: "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@gmail.com> To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:34 AM Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Tron & Jazz As far as I'm concerned there isn't, my piano tuner used to play one in an NZ band in the 70's he insists there was delay in the one he used to play as well. I forgive him because he does a great job on my piano. Mark, what's your piano tuner's name? Just wondering whether he recorded 'back in the day'. Andy T.
2012-04-13 by lsf5275@aol.com
Exactly! In a message dated 4/13/2012 4:03:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tronbros@aol.com writes: There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic! Best, M _mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://mellotronics.co.uk/) On 13 Apr 2012, at 07:26, "mellotronmadness" <_markpringnz@gmail.com_ (mailto:markpringnz@gmail.com) > wrote: I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer. I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations. Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players. Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player. I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings? Mark PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that! --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , Robert <rmrmax@...> wrote: > > Roberto, > > Maybe you are right ? > > There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past. > > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully. > > > Robert > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related) > > > ________________________________ > From: R l <bluesrock77@...> > To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > > >  > I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so  that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God! > > best, > > Roberto > > > > ________________________________ > To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) > From: rmrmax@... > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700 > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > > > John, > > I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too ! > > I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson. > > Also, check out Mal Waldron. > > > With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past. > > > Robert > > > ________________________________ > From: John Hammaren <hammaren@...> > To: "_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) " <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > > >  > Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff. >  > From:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of fdoddy@... > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM > To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads >  > Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. > > > fritz >  >  >  > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert <rmrmax@...> > To: newmellotrongroup <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) > > Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > I like both.... >  > My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites. >  > Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. >  > Robert >  > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY) >  > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY) >  > > ________________________________ > > From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> > To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap >  > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... >  > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... >  >  > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... >  > I'll get my coat. >  > Andy K >  > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
> > > Â > Andy Kinch > kinchmusic@... > Â > Â >
2012-04-13 by vance@juniperpacific.com
�There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. �Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic!Best,�I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer.
I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations.
Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players.
Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player.
I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings?
Mark
PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that!
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert wrote:
>
> Roberto,
>
> Maybe you are right ?
>
> There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past.
>
> Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.
>
>
> Robert
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: R l
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
>
>
>
> I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God!
>
> best,
>
> Roberto
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> From: rmrmax@...
> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
>
>
> John,
>
> I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !
>
> I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.
>
> Also, check out Mal Waldron.
>
>
> With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.
>
>
> Robert
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Hammaren
> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
>
>
>
> Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it�\u20ac\u2122s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
>
> From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@...
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
>
> Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
>
>
> fritz
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> I like both....
>
> My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.
>
> Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it.
>
> Robert
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:Andy Kinch
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
>
> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
>
> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
>
>
> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
>
> I'll get my coat.
>
> Andy K
>
> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
>
>
>
> Andy Kinch
> kinchmusic@...
>
>
>
2012-04-13 by tronbros
Okay Vance and all you mellotron owners.... Pads: a good pad should come from silence to a full sound in 1/4 turn of the adjustment screw. From there you should add 1/2 turn further to establish a good setting. Rollers: a good roller should come up to full speed from stall in 1/2 turn max. From there you should add 1 full turn to establish a good setting. Keys: undo the backnut until the key drops away from the bar. Now tighten the nut until the key just touches the rubber strip and add 1/8 turn. This is the correct back pressure. Too little and the key will flap, too much and it will feel like a girder. Key depth: press down a black ket between two white keys at either end of the keyboard. The key should be no more than 1/6th of an inch above the white key otherwise the action will feel shallow and 'orrible. If you have the above settings your tron will be a delight. If you don't, it won't. Best, Martin mellotronics.co.uk
On 13 Apr 2012, at 14:34, vance@juniperpacific.com wrote: > Martin - > Please explain "over adjustment". > Thanks > Vance > > > tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote: > > There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic! > > Best, > > M > > mellotronics.co.uk > > > > On 13 Apr 2012, at 07:26, "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer. >> >> I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations. >> >> Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players. >> >> Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player. >> >> I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings? >> >> Mark >> >> PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that! >> >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@...> wrote: >> > >> > Roberto, >> > >> > Maybe you are right ? >> > >> > There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past. >> > >> > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully. >> > >> > >> > Robert >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: R l <bluesrock77@...> >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM >> > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. >> > >> > >> >  >> > I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so  that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God! >> > >> > best, >> > >> > Roberto >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com >> > From: rmrmax@... >> > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700 >> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. >> > >> > >> > John, >> > >> > I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too ! >> > >> > I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson. >> > >> > Also, check out Mal Waldron. >> > >> > >> > With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past. >> > >> > >> > Robert >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: John Hammaren <hammaren@...> >> > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM >> > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads >> > >> > >> >  >> > Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff. >> >  >> > From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@... >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads >> >  >> > Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. >> > >> > >> > fritz >> >  >> >  >> >  >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Robert <rmrmax@...> >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> >> > Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm >> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads >> > I like both.... >> >  >> > My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites. >> >  >> > Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. >> >  >> > Robert >> >  >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY >> >  >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY >> >  >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap >> >  >> > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... >> >  >> > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... >> >  >> >  >> > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... >> >  >> > I'll get my coat. >> >  >> > Andy K >> >  >> > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! >> > >> > >> >  >> > Andy Kinch >> > kinchmusic@... >> >  >> >  >> > >> > >
2012-04-13 by mellotronmadness
Neville H Claughton, I can't remember the name of the band he played with but I'll ask him next time I see him. Mark --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...> wrote:
> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@...> > To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:34 AM > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Tron & Jazz > > > As far as I'm concerned there isn't, my piano tuner used to play one in an > NZ band in the 70's he insists there was delay in the one he used to play as > well. I forgive him because he does a great job on my piano. > > > Mark, what's your piano tuner's name? Just wondering whether he recorded > 'back in the day'. > > Andy T. >
2012-04-13 by tron400
So it's safe to assume that the keyboard adjustment screws shouldn't look like this? http://www.spheremusic.com/userimages/Img97883.jpg I've just set my keyboard up following these instructions. It seems that I can press the keys almost all the way down before sound begins. This is correct? The keys feel very loose, although a bit more mechanically noisy, and I can play fast runs on them. It's also very easy to "feed" the note by gently pressing down on the keys once the pads make contact with the tapes. Bernie --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
> > Okay Vance and all you mellotron owners.... > > Pads: a good pad should come from silence to a full sound in 1/4 turn of the adjustment screw. From there you should add 1/2 turn further to establish a good setting. > > Rollers: a good roller should come up to full speed from stall in 1/2 turn max. From there you should add 1 full turn to establish a good setting. > > Keys: undo the backnut until the key drops away from the bar. Now tighten the nut until the key just touches the rubber strip and add 1/8 turn. This is the correct back pressure. Too little and the key will flap, too much and it will feel like a girder. > > Key depth: press down a black ket between two white keys at either end of the keyboard. The key should be no more than 1/6th of an inch above the white key otherwise the action will feel shallow and 'orrible. > > If you have the above settings your tron will be a delight. If you don't, it won't. > > Best, > > Martin > > mellotronics.co.uk > > > > On 13 Apr 2012, at 14:34, vance@... wrote: > > > Martin - > > Please explain "over adjustment". > > Thanks > > Vance > > > > > > tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote: > > > > There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic! > > > > Best, > > > > M > > > > mellotronics.co.uk > > > > > > > > On 13 Apr 2012, at 07:26, "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@...> wrote: > > > >> > >> I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer. > >> > >> I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations. > >> > >> Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players. > >> > >> Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player. > >> > >> I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings? > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that! > >> > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Roberto, > >> > > >> > Maybe you are right ? > >> > > >> > There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to.à Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past. > >> > > >> > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully. > >> > > >> > > >> > Robert > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: R l <bluesrock77@> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM > >> > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > >> > > >> > > >> > à > >> > I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so à that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God! > >> > > >> > best, > >> > > >> > Roberto > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > >> > From: rmrmax@ > >> > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700 > >> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > >> > > >> > > >> > John, > >> > > >> > I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too ! > >> > > >> > I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson. > >> > > >> > Also, check out Mal Waldron. > >> > > >> > > >> > With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past. > >> > > >> > > >> > Robert > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: John Hammaren <hammaren@> > >> > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM > >> > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > >> > > >> > > >> > à > >> > Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, itââ¬â¢s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff. > >> > à > >> > From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@ > >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM > >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > >> > à > >> > Oh man!à If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. > >> > > >> > > >> > fritz > >> > à > >> > à > >> > à > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Robert <rmrmax@> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > >> > Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm > >> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > >> > I like both.... > >> > à > >> > My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music.à Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.à > >> > à > >> > Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. > >> > à > >> > Robert > >> > à > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY > >> > à > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY > >> > à > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > > >> > From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > >> > à > >> > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... > >> > à > >> > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... > >> > à > >> > à > >> > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... > >> > à > >> > I'll get my coat. > >> > à > >> > Andy K > >> > à > >> > PS.à On the off chance thatà anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap.à The albumà should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > >> > > >> > > >> > à > >> > Andy Kinch > >> > kinchmusic@ > >> > à > >> > à > >> > > >> > > > > >
2012-04-13 by mellotronmadness
In defence of #1565 she has her problems but over adjustment of the keyboard is not one of them and I do not believe there is any delay I can play trills on her. My main problem is taming the sound output. I can get the sound I want if I record it and then use software to process the recording but not playing live and through hardware. I expect a more expensive and tube amplifier might do the trick. There were 2 effects in "Self indulgent Crap" that I really liked: there were 7 extra notes below G and some of the notes were heavily reverbed and some weren't which gave an interesting effect. At some stage I think I will also split the keyboard in the sampler with string chords on the bottom 8 notes and mark II flute on the higher notes and also map the keyboard across the stereo output. A sort of ersatz Mark V. Mark --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
> > Okay Vance and all you mellotron owners.... > > Pads: a good pad should come from silence to a full sound in 1/4 turn of the adjustment screw. From there you should add 1/2 turn further to establish a good setting. > > Rollers: a good roller should come up to full speed from stall in 1/2 turn max. From there you should add 1 full turn to establish a good setting. > > Keys: undo the backnut until the key drops away from the bar. Now tighten the nut until the key just touches the rubber strip and add 1/8 turn. This is the correct back pressure. Too little and the key will flap, too much and it will feel like a girder. > > Key depth: press down a black ket between two white keys at either end of the keyboard. The key should be no more than 1/6th of an inch above the white key otherwise the action will feel shallow and 'orrible. > > If you have the above settings your tron will be a delight. If you don't, it won't. > > Best, > > Martin > > mellotronics.co.uk > > > > On 13 Apr 2012, at 14:34, vance@... wrote: > > > Martin - > > Please explain "over adjustment". > > Thanks > > Vance > > > > > > tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote: > > > > There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic! > > > > Best, > > > > M > > > > mellotronics.co.uk > > > > > > > > On 13 Apr 2012, at 07:26, "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@...> wrote: > > > >> > >> I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer. > >> > >> I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations. > >> > >> Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players. > >> > >> Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player. > >> > >> I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings? > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that! > >> > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Roberto, > >> > > >> > Maybe you are right ? > >> > > >> > There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to.à Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past. > >> > > >> > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully. > >> > > >> > > >> > Robert > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: R l <bluesrock77@> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM > >> > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > >> > > >> > > >> > à > >> > I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so à that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God! > >> > > >> > best, > >> > > >> > Roberto > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > >> > From: rmrmax@ > >> > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700 > >> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc. > >> > > >> > > >> > John, > >> > > >> > I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too ! > >> > > >> > I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson. > >> > > >> > Also, check out Mal Waldron. > >> > > >> > > >> > With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past. > >> > > >> > > >> > Robert > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: John Hammaren <hammaren@> > >> > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM > >> > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > >> > > >> > > >> > à > >> > Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, itââ¬â¢s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff. > >> > à > >> > From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@ > >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM > >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > >> > à > >> > Oh man!à If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James. > >> > > >> > > >> > fritz > >> > à > >> > à > >> > à > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Robert <rmrmax@> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > >> > Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm > >> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads > >> > I like both.... > >> > à > >> > My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music.à Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.à > >> > à > >> > Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it. > >> > à > >> > Robert > >> > à > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY > >> > à > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY > >> > à > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > > >> > From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap > >> > à > >> > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread... > >> > à > >> > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then... > >> > à > >> > à > >> > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at... > >> > à > >> > I'll get my coat. > >> > à > >> > Andy K > >> > à > >> > PS.à On the off chance thatà anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap.à The albumà should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...! > >> > > >> > > >> > à > >> > Andy Kinch > >> > kinchmusic@ > >> > à > >> > à > >> > > >> > > > > >
2012-04-13 by Steven Davies-Morris
On 04/13/2012 11:40 AM, mellotronmadness wrote: > Neville H Claughton, I can't remember the name of the band he played > with but I'll ask him next time I see him. > > Mark > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Andy Thompson" > <andy.thompson@...> wrote: >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mellotronmadness" >> <markpringnz@...> To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>> >> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:34 AM Subject: [newmellotrongroup] >> Re: The Tron & Jazz >> >> >> As far as I'm concerned there isn't, my piano tuner used to play >> one in an NZ band in the 70's he insists there was delay in the one >> he used to play as well. I forgive him because he does a great job >> on my piano. >> >> >> Mark, what's your piano tuner's name? Just wondering whether he >> recorded 'back in the day'. >> >> Andy T. If it is the same Neville Claughton (and why not, I've never heard of another one) he was the bass player in Link, best remembered for the tune "Only Time Could Let Us Know". Youtube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_MIZVxSNKM&feature=player_embedded> -- SDM a 21st century schizoid man in SoCal Systems Theory website www.systemstheory.net "overfulnoisecascade" CD coming soon
2012-04-13 by Steven Davies-Morris
On 04/13/2012 01:08 AM, tronbros wrote: > Check out John Medeski. He can play wild stuff on a 'tron, even an > unserviced one! A mellotron can be made to have a super light playing > action that is redponsive and fast if needed. The standard setting that > left the factory was a belt and braces adjustment to defeat any climatic > change or mishandling. Hence the block chord playing most of the time. > > M > > mellotronics.co.uk <http://mellotronics.co.uk> 2 thumbs up for Medeski, Martin & Wood. <http://mmw.net/> -- SDM a 21st century schizoid man in SoCal Systems Theory website www.systemstheory.net "overfulnoisecascade" CD coming soon
2012-04-13 by R l
2012-04-13 by william Beith
Medeski Martin & Wood play live in the You Tube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUH4grTDIg&feature=fvst At 21:20 strange actions are performed on/to a Mellotron. Enjoy Bill ________________________________
From: Steven Davies-Morris <sdavmor@systemstheory.net> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, April 13, 2012 6:01:29 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Tron & Jazz On 04/13/2012 01:08 AM, tronbros wrote: > Check out John Medeski. He can play wild stuff on a 'tron, even an > unserviced one! A mellotron can be made to have a super light playing > action that is redponsive and fast if needed. The standard setting that > left the factory was a belt and braces adjustment to defeat any climatic > change or mishandling. Hence the block chord playing most of the time. > > M > > mellotronics.co.uk <http://mellotronics.co.uk> 2 thumbs up for Medeski, Martin & Wood. <http://mmw.net/> -- SDM a 21st century schizoid man in SoCal Systems Theory website www.systemstheory.net "overfulnoisecascade" CD coming soon
2012-04-14 by R l
2012-04-14 by mellotronmadness
I think it is, he looks a little different now! Mark
> If it is the same Neville Claughton (and why not, I've never heard of > another one) he was the bass player in Link, best remembered for the > tune "Only Time Could Let Us Know". > > Youtube: > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_MIZVxSNKM&feature=player_embedded> > -- > SDM a 21st century schizoid man in SoCal > Systems Theory website www.systemstheory.net > "overfulnoisecascade" CD coming soon >
2012-04-14 by Robert
Bill, Thanks for posting... Absolutely fabulous performance. I enjoyed every second of it ! Robert ________________________________
From: william Beith <wbeith@sbcglobal.net> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Tron & Jazz Medeski Martin & Wood play live in the You Tube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUH4grTDIg&feature=fvst At 21:20 strange actions are performed on/to a Mellotron. Enjoy Bill ________________________________ From: Steven Davies-Morris <sdavmor@systemstheory.net> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, April 13, 2012 6:01:29 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Tron & Jazz On 04/13/2012 01:08 AM, tronbros wrote: > Check out John Medeski. He can play wild stuff on a 'tron, even an > unserviced one! A mellotron can be made to have a super light playing > action that is redponsive and fast if needed. The standard setting that > left the factory was a belt and braces adjustment to defeat any climatic > change or mishandling. Hence the block chord playing most of the time. > > M > > mellotronics.co.uk <http://mellotronics.co.uk> 2 thumbs up for Medeski, Martin & Wood. <http://mmw.net/> -- SDM a 21st century schizoid man in SoCal Systems Theory website www.systemstheory.net "overfulnoisecascade" CD coming soon
2012-04-14 by mellotronmadness
Well the bit with tron and chimpanzee noises was quite funny otherwise I think root canal work beckons. Good thing we all don't like the same music. Mark --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@...> wrote:
> > Bill, > > Thanks for posting... > > Absolutely fabulous performance. I enjoyed every second of it ! > > Robert > > > > ________________________________ > From: william Beith <wbeith@...> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:59 PM > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Tron & Jazz > > > Â > Medeski Martin & Wood play live in the You Tube video > Â > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUH4grTDIg&feature=fvst > Â > At 21:20 strange actions are performed on/to a Mellotron. > Â > Enjoy > Â > Bill > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steven Davies-Morris <sdavmor@...> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, April 13, 2012 6:01:29 PM > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Tron & Jazz > > Â > On 04/13/2012 01:08 AM, tronbros wrote: > > Check out John Medeski. He can play wild stuff on a 'tron, even an > > unserviced one! A mellotron can be made to have a super light playing > > action that is redponsive and fast if needed. The standard setting that > > left the factory was a belt and braces adjustment to defeat any climatic > > change or mishandling. Hence the block chord playing most of the time. > > > > M > > > > mellotronics.co.uk <http://mellotronics.co.uk> > > 2 thumbs up for Medeski, Martin & Wood. > > <http://mmw.net/> > -- > SDM a 21st century schizoid man in SoCal > Systems Theory website www.systemstheory.net > "overfulnoisecascade" CD coming soon >
2012-04-14 by Bill Rudloff
2012-04-14 by tron400
I didn't know heaven was in black and white. Bernie --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@...> wrote:
> > Behold technology of the past and drool! FYI, this is a slideshow format. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/aboutthebbc/sets/72157629806288661/show/ > Bill Rudloff >
2012-04-14 by fdoddy@aol.com
Awesome!
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 12:30 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
Behold technology of the past and drool! FYI, this is a slideshow format.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aboutthebbc/sets/72157629806288661/show/
Bill Rudloff2012-04-14 by Robert
Wow ! I second that Awesome ! Robert ________________________________
From: "fdoddy@aol.com" <fdoddy@aol.com> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released Awesome! -----Original Message----- From: Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@aol.com> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 12:30 pm Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released Behold technology of the past and drool! FYI, this is a slideshow format. http://www.flickr.com/photos/aboutthebbc/sets/72157629806288661/show/ Bill Rudloff
2012-04-14 by gino wong
Wow !I second that Awesome !Robert
From: "fdoddy@aol.com" <fdoddy@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
Awesome!
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 12:30 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
Behold technology of the past and drool! FYI, this is a slideshow format.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aboutthebbc/sets/72157629806288661/show/
Bill Rudloff
2012-04-14 by tron400
Hollowsun.com also has an interesting collection of "Music Labratory Machines" plugins for very reasonable prices. Bernie --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, gino wong <wonggster@...> wrote:
> > I love the idler affixed to the table for tape loops, Brilliant. > > If you are into the old scholl stuff there is a very very inexpensive , > very fine software package that uses an matrix interface to bring together > emulations of classic stuff. > > Gleetchplug Berna > > http://www.giorgiosancristoforo.net/ > > > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Robert <rmrmax@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Wow ! > > > > I second that Awesome ! > > > > Robert > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* "fdoddy@..." <fdoddy@...> > > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > *Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:40 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released > > > > > > Awesome! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@...> > > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 12:30 pm > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released > > > > > > Behold technology of the past and drool! FYI, this is a slideshow > > format. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/aboutthebbc/sets/72157629806288661/show/ > > Bill Rudloff > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > "All music is folk music; I ain't never heard no horse sing a song." > Louis Armstrong > > > Gino Wong Birgelo > *BSComm, BSEE, CG, CSEC * > *Audio Production, Logistics, Analog Synthesizers, Sound Design* > > *Ginowong@...* > * > * >
2012-04-14 by tron400
Oops, my mistake. They're Kontakt instruments. --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@...> wrote:
> > Hollowsun.com also has an interesting collection of "Music Labratory Machines" plugins for very reasonable prices. > > Bernie > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, gino wong <wonggster@> wrote: > > > > I love the idler affixed to the table for tape loops, Brilliant. > > > > If you are into the old scholl stuff there is a very very inexpensive , > > very fine software package that uses an matrix interface to bring together > > emulations of classic stuff. > > > > Gleetchplug Berna > > > > http://www.giorgiosancristoforo.net/ > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Robert <rmrmax@> wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Wow ! > > > > > > I second that Awesome ! > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* "fdoddy@" <fdoddy@> > > > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > > *Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:40 PM > > > *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released > > > > > > > > > Awesome! > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@> > > > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 12:30 pm > > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released > > > > > > > > > Behold technology of the past and drool! FYI, this is a slideshow > > > format. > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/aboutthebbc/sets/72157629806288661/show/ > > > Bill Rudloff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "All music is folk music; I ain't never heard no horse sing a song." > > Louis Armstrong > > > > > > Gino Wong Birgelo > > *BSComm, BSEE, CG, CSEC * > > *Audio Production, Logistics, Analog Synthesizers, Sound Design* > > > > *Ginowong@* > > * > > * > > >
2012-04-14 by fdoddy@aol.com
Gino, What an incredible tip. I am going to have so much fun with this. Thanks! fritz Gleetchplug Berna
-----Original Message-----
From: gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
I love the idler affixed to the table for tape loops, Brilliant.
If you are into the old scholl stuff there is a very very inexpensive , very fine software package that uses an matrix interface to bring together emulations of classic stuff.
Gleetchplug Berna
http://www.giorgiosancristoforo.net/
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wow !
I second that Awesome !
Robert
From: "fdoddy@aol.com" <fdoddy@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
Awesome!
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 12:30 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
Behold technology of the past and drool! FYI, this is a slideshow format.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aboutthebbc/sets/72157629806288661/show/
Bill Rudloff
--
"All music is folk music; I ain't never heard no horse sing a song."
Louis Armstrong
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE, CG, CSEC
Audio Production, Logistics, Analog Synthesizers, Sound Design
Ginowong@gmail.com2012-04-14 by fdoddy@aol.com
We use to glue corks onto pieces of wood screwed to larger pieces of wood, then put pins into the corks. We would put the tape machine on its back and place the cork/pin apparati around the room, stretch the tape to our "idlers" to make really long loops. My wife thought we were nuts. fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
I love the idler affixed to the table for tape loops, Brilliant.
If you are into the old scholl stuff there is a very very inexpensive , very fine software package that uses an matrix interface to bring together emulations of classic stuff.
Gleetchplug Berna
http://www.giorgiosancristoforo.net/
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wow !
I second that Awesome !
Robert
From: "fdoddy@aol.com" <fdoddy@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
Awesome!
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 12:30 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
Behold technology of the past and drool! FYI, this is a slideshow format.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aboutthebbc/sets/72157629806288661/show/
Bill Rudloff
--
"All music is folk music; I ain't never heard no horse sing a song."
Louis Armstrong
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE, CG, CSEC
Audio Production, Logistics, Analog Synthesizers, Sound Design
Ginowong@gmail.com2012-04-15 by mellotronmadness
Thanks for posting Bill, wonderful pictures. Mark --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@...> wrote:
> > Behold technology of the past and drool! FYI, this is a slideshow format. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/aboutthebbc/sets/72157629806288661/show/ > Bill Rudloff >
2012-04-15 by Mike Dickson
2012-04-15 by gino wong
Gino,
What an incredible tip. I am going to have so much fun with this. Thanks!
fritz
Gleetchplug Berna
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
I love the idler affixed to the table for tape loops, Brilliant.
If you are into the old scholl stuff there is a very very inexpensive , very fine software package that uses an matrix interface to bring together emulations of classic stuff.
Gleetchplug Berna
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wow !
I second that Awesome !
Robert
From: "fdoddy@aol.com" <;fdoddy@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
Awesome!
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 12:30 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] OT: BBC Radiophonic pictures released
Behold technology of the past and drool! FYI, this is a slideshow format.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aboutthebbc/sets/72157629806288661/show/
Bill Rudloff
--
"All music is folk music; I ain't never heard no horse sing a song."Louis Armstrong
Gino Wong BirgeloBSComm, BSEE, CG, CSEC
2012-04-16 by 'tronster
Delia Derbyshire of White Noise 'An Electric Storm' fame in some of the pics... Thanks for the link! Dan --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bill Rudloff <doctorwho8@...> wrote:
> > Behold technology of the past and drool! FYI, this is a slideshow format. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/aboutthebbc/sets/72157629806288661/show/ > Bill Rudloff >
2012-04-18 by Mark Wallis
2012-04-22 by william Beith
Jerry Lewis demos his Chamberlin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REwMm3tiN10&feature=youtu.be
Not much I can say about it other than watch.......
2012-04-22 by lsf5275@aol.com
Jerry Lewis was one of Harry Chamberlin's backers. Frank In a message dated 4/22/2012 1:07:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wbeith@sbcglobal.net writes: Jerry Lewis demos his Chamberlin _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REwMm3tiN10&feature=youtu.be_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REwMm3tiN10&feature=youtu.be) Not much I can say about it other than watch.......