The Mellotron Group

Ladies and Gentleman,
 
Markus the Swede seems to be hell bent on perpetuating friction  betwixt 
Streetly and his goodself and we don't understand why.   He has continued with 
the name M4000D for his new digital 'tron according to  the mellotron.com 
website.  This will only serve to confuse the market  place and lead people 
to us that would have gone solely to him.  It can  work the other way also 
but to what end?  We really cannot understand the  marketing strategy and 
invite comments without fear of reprisal.
 
Martin and JB - keeping the peace for many a year now.
Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic 
_www.mellotronics.com_ (http://www.mellotronics.com/)  
_JONSI and the M4000 - _ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo
US Sales  East: Jimmy Moore_  JMoore6397@aol.com_ 
(http://JMoore6397@aol.com/) 
US Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@earthlink.net_ (http://pjc56@earthlink.net/) 
 
Chloe Smith:  _myspace.com/chloesmithmusic_ 
(http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)

There's a rumor that Markus is going to include the entire ABBA catalogue on a flash card, plus 4000 pair of Björn Borg under pants with the 1st ten M4000D digital 'trons.

We too like David and get on perfectly well with him.  We don't want  any 
confrontation but it seems to me(us) that it is absurd for Markus to name a  
product so closely after a competitors product that it's either stupidity or 
a  measured act of what exactly?.  
 
Best,
 
Martin
 
Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic 
_www.mellotronics.com_ (http://www.mellotronics.com/)  
_JONSI and the M4000 - _ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo
US Sales  East: Jimmy Moore_  JMoore6397@aol.com_ 
(http://JMoore6397@aol.com/) 
US Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@earthlink.net_ (http://pjc56@earthlink.net/) 
 
Chloe Smith:  myspace.com/chloesmithmusic  

 
In a message dated 22/05/2010 19:09:32 GMT Daylight Time,  
wonggster@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
 
I should clarify thatI like David Kean,  I knew of him via Audities  
outside of the Mellotron thing being involved in electronic music since the  early 
70s academically, as a broadcaster/ journo, producer then as a  record 
label. A lot of people over the years have called me and asked me if he  was 
cool, for many different reasons . He got some good stuff from some of my  
artists and I never interfered. A couple of times I could have hosed him just  
by writing a check. I always thought what he was doing was good and there was 
 no alternative save my storage locker.  As far as I know, he has never  
hurt any of my friends or family intentionally, that is the place where i  
would draw the line.


Some of the things I might write may indicate that I have some enmity  
toward the man, I do not,  Disagreement or disconfluence of feelings on  
practices or belief are matters of o_pinion and not the person. 


That said: If he and Markus  planned or or he condoned and  communicated 
across a conveyance like a phone or the net. that moves things  out of the 
civil courts and state jurisdiction to Federal (In the US). It goes  into other 
acronym territory.  Mid you, the authorities wouldn't are  about any of 
this unless they get help.  


Theoretically , There is a simple solution to all things.  When you  behave 
like a gentleman, your dreams come true.  There is a glass ceiling  for all 
kinds of people.


gw



On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:39 PM, gino wong <






_ (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic) _wonggster@gmail.won_ 
(mailto:wonggster@gmail.com) _>_ (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)  wrote:

Since  Streetly was first with the M4000, you can definitely enjoin 
importation of  his rompler into the US by filing a Restraint of Trade complaint.  
This  sort of harassment is the sort of stuff that US law works on.  On a  
civil level in the US whoever is more right prevails.  


If I was distributing Streetly product in the US Dave and Markus would  
both have heartburn.  
 



On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:02 PM, <




_tronbros@aol.tro_ (mailto:tronbros@aol.com) _>_ 
(http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)  wrote:


 
 
 
Ladies and Gentleman,
 
Markus the Swede seems to be hell bent on perpetuating friction  betwixt 
Streetly and his goodself and we don't understand  why.  He has continued with 
the name M4000D for his new digital 'tron  according to the 





_mellotron.com_ (http://mellotron.com/) _ website.  This will only  serve 
to confuse the market place and lead people to us that would have  gone 
solely to him.  It can work the other way also but to what  end?  We really 
cannot understand the marketing strategy and invite  comments without fear of 
reprisal._ (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)  

Martin and JB - keeping the peace for many a year now.
Streetly Electronics  - All Things Mellotronic 

_www.mellotronics.www_ (http://www.mellotronics.com/)  
(http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)  
_JONSI and  the M4000 - http://www.youtube.JONSI and JONSI and  _ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo)  (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic) 
US Sales East: Jimmy Moore_ JMoore6397@aol. JM_ 
(http://JMoore6397@aol.com/)  (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic) 
US Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@earthlink. pj_ (http://pjc56@earthlink.net/) 
 (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)  
Chloe Smith: _myspace.com/myspace.com/<WB_ 
(http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)  (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)

It begs the question whether you have attempted to ask Markus yourself 
and if so, what the response was. And if not, why?

Bob S.


tronbros@aol.com wrote:

>  
>
> We too like David and get on perfectly well with him.  We don't want 
> any confrontation but it seems to me(us) that it is absurd for Markus 
> to name a product so closely after a competitors product that it's 
> either stupidity or a measured act of what exactly?. 
>  
> Best,
>  
> Martin
>

It reminds me of his fishing with his announcement of the MkIIx not long after Streetly's announcement of the M4000. Sounds like a one-sided one-ups-manship based on jealousy of Streetly's success with the M4000.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros@... wrote:

>
> Ladies and Gentleman,
>  
> Markus the Swede seems to be hell bent on perpetuating friction  betwixt 
> Streetly and his goodself and we don't understand why.   He has continued with 
> the name M4000D for his new digital 'tron according to  the mellotron.com 
> website.  This will only serve to confuse the market  place and lead people 
> to us that would have gone solely to him.  It can  work the other way also 
> but to what end?  We really cannot understand the  marketing strategy and 
> invite comments without fear of reprisal.
>  
> Martin and JB - keeping the peace for many a year now.
> Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic 
> _www.mellotronics.com_ (http://www.mellotronics.com/)  
> _JONSI and the M4000 - _ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo) 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo
> US Sales  East: Jimmy Moore_  JMoore6397@..._ 
> (http://JMoore6397@.../) 
> US Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@..._ (http://pjc56@.../) 
>  
> Chloe Smith:  _myspace.com/chloesmithmusic_ 
> (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)
>

.....or Streetly could save the expense of a lawsuit that would possible break their bank.  Only the lawyers are guaranteed
to walk away as winners.  There have been many variations on the model named "B3" by Hammond yet even though they certainly
have deeper pockets than Streetly they don't bother with it.  Please save your money and let the products compete in the
open market.  It ~is~ publishable business news as "sour grapes" from a company that is in fear of a competitor and that could
backfire on Streetly.  Do what you feel is in the best interest of your company but I think there is room for both products in this market.

Best Regards,

Gary

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:46 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Markus the Mighty...................waht?



It is a risky, irresponsible  thing fo Markus to do. It is bad for business all around.  It is publishable business news.  It hurts David directly.  Any mainstream help investment etc will be strictly old school tie or dads friends for everybody at this point until this goes away.

From a Wharton business school perspective, the best way to solve this is to do a pr and court blitz on Markus and drag David in to accelerate the legal costs overall. The first day would cost $60k overall roughly, Whoever is incorporated in the US/Canada pays the most.


On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Bob Snyder <bob.snyder@cox.net<mailto:bob.snyder@cox.net>> wrote:


It begs the question whether you have attempted to ask Markus yourself
and if so, what the response was. And if not, why?

Bob S.


tronbros@aol.com<mailto:tronbros%40aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> We too like David and get on perfectly well with him. We don't want
> any confrontation but it seems to me(us) that it is absurd for Markus
> to name a product so closely after a competitors product that it's
> either stupidity or a measured act of what exactly?.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>

I seriously doubt that anyone shopping for a new mellotron or parts for
that matter, even tapes,
wouldn't see the difference between the products offered by Streetly or
"Mellotronics". If I have 10 grand to spend on a cycling machine I am not
about to be confuded by the 4000D. The ethics and legallity of it all
aside I don't see that it will hurt or aid anyone's business..... TD

> .....or Streetly could save the expense of a lawsuit that would possible
> break their bank.  Only the lawyers are guaranteed
> to walk away as winners.  There have been many variations on the model
> named "B3" by Hammond yet even though they certainly
> have deeper pockets than Streetly they don't bother with it.  Please save
> your money and let the products compete in the
> open market.  It ~is~ publishable business news as "sour grapes" from a
> company that is in fear of a competitor and that could
> backfire on Streetly.  Do what you feel is in the best interest of your
> company but I think there is room for both products in this market.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Gary
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:46 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Markus the Mighty...................waht?
>
>
>
> It is a risky, irresponsible  thing fo Markus to do. It is bad for
> business all around.  It is publishable business news.  It hurts David
> directly.  Any mainstream help investment etc will be strictly old school
> tie or dads friends for everybody at this point until this goes away.
>
> From a Wharton business school perspective, the best way to solve this is
> to do a pr and court blitz on Markus and drag David in to accelerate the
> legal costs overall. The first day would cost $60k overall roughly,
> Whoever is incorporated in the US/Canada pays the most.
>
>
> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Bob Snyder
> <bob.snyder@cox.net<mailto:bob.snyder@cox.net>> wrote:
>
>
> It begs the question whether you have attempted to ask Markus yourself
> and if so, what the response was. And if not, why?
>
> Bob S.
>
>
> tronbros@aol.com<mailto:tronbros%40aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> We too like David and get on perfectly well with him. We don't want
>> any confrontation but it seems to me(us) that it is absurd for Markus
>> to name a product so closely after a competitors product that it's
>> either stupidity or a measured act of what exactly?.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Martin
>>
>
>
>

Talk to Markus.  Maybe he's been smoking Manali hashish with hot knives and he's got a good excuse for being goofy.

I agree with Tom.  It's not going to confuse any serious buyers.
I don't see how the name issue could significantly help or hurt either company.  

Clay

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...> wrote:

>
> I seriously doubt that anyone shopping for a new mellotron or parts for
> that matter, even tapes,
> wouldn't see the difference between the products offered by Streetly or
> "Mellotronics". If I have 10 grand to spend on a cycling machine I am not
> about to be confuded by the 4000D. The ethics and legallity of it all
> aside I don't see that it will hurt or aid anyone's business..... TD
> 
> > .....or Streetly could save the expense of a lawsuit that would possible
> > break their bank.  Only the lawyers are guaranteed
> > to walk away as winners.  There have been many variations on the model
> > named "B3" by Hammond yet even though they certainly
> > have deeper pockets than Streetly they don't bother with it.  Please save
> > your money and let the products compete in the
> > open market.  It ~is~ publishable business news as "sour grapes" from a
> > company that is in fear of a competitor and that could
> > backfire on Streetly.  Do what you feel is in the best interest of your
> > company but I think there is room for both products in this market.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
> > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:46 AM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Markus the Mighty...................waht?
> >
> >
> >
> > It is a risky, irresponsible  thing fo Markus to do. It is bad for
> > business all around.  It is publishable business news.  It hurts David
> > directly.  Any mainstream help investment etc will be strictly old school
> > tie or dads friends for everybody at this point until this goes away.
> >
> > From a Wharton business school perspective, the best way to solve this is
> > to do a pr and court blitz on Markus and drag David in to accelerate the
> > legal costs overall. The first day would cost $60k overall roughly,
> > Whoever is incorporated in the US/Canada pays the most.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Bob Snyder
> > <bob.snyder@...<mailto:bob.snyder@...>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It begs the question whether you have attempted to ask Markus yourself
> > and if so, what the response was. And if not, why?
> >
> > Bob S.
> >
> >
> > tronbros@...<mailto:tronbros%40aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> We too like David and get on perfectly well with him. We don't want
> >> any confrontation but it seems to me(us) that it is absurd for Markus
> >> to name a product so closely after a competitors product that it's
> >> either stupidity or a measured act of what exactly?.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

Just to clarify, we are not worried about the digital 'tron as it is  
competing with Memotron and not with us.  The digital battle will get  messy, cut 
price and unprofitable.  Interestingly, Clavia, who have no  influence on 
Markus's product in any way, released the 'tron master tapes for  Nord owners 
close to the Frankfurt Musikmesse.  A generous act!  They  should start a 
knife throwing act.
 
Best,
 
M
 
Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic 
_www.mellotronics.com_ (http://www.mellotronics.com/)  
_JONSI and the M4000 - _ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo
US Sales  East: Jimmy Moore_  JMoore6397@aol.com_ 
(http://JMoore6397@aol.com/) 
US Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@earthlink.net_ (http://pjc56@earthlink.net/) 
 
Chloe Smith:  _myspace.com/chloesmithmusic  

 
In a message dated 22/05/2010 21:49:48 GMT Daylight Time,  
ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes:

 
 
 
Talk to Markus. Maybe he's been smoking Manali hashish with hot knives and  
he's got a good excuse for being goofy.

I agree with Tom. It's not  going to confuse any serious buyers.
I don't see how the name issue could  significantly help or hurt either 
company. 

Clay

--- In 




_ (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic) _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , "Thomas C. Doncourt"  
<tomdcour@...> wrote:
>
> I seriously doubt that anyone  shopping for a new mellotron or parts for
> that matter, even  tapes,
> wouldn't see the difference between the products offered by  Streetly or
> "Mellotronics". If I have 10 grand to spend on a cycling  machine I am not
> about to be confuded by the 4000D. The ethics and  legallity of it all
> aside I don't see that it will hurt or aid  anyone's business..... TD
> 
> > .....or Streetly could save  the expense of a lawsuit that would 
possible
> > break their bank.  Only the lawyers are guaranteed
> > to walk away as winners. There  have been many variations on the model
> > named "B3" by Hammond yet  even though they certainly
> > have deeper pockets than Streetly they  don't bother with it. Please 
save
> > your money and let the products  compete in the
> > open market. It ~is~ publishable business news as  "sour grapes" from a
> > company that is in fear of a competitor and  that could
> > backfire on Streetly. Do what you fe_el is in the best  interest of your
> > company but I think there is room for both  products in this market.
> >
> > Best Regards,
>  >
> > Gary
> >
> > From: _ (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic) 
_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _
> > [mailto:_ (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic) 
_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _] On Behalf Of gino 
wong
>  > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:46 AM
> > To: _ (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic) 
_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
> > Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Markus the 
Mighty...................waht?
>  >
> >
> >
> > It is a risky, irresponsible thing  fo Markus to do. It is bad for
> > business all around. It is  publishable business news. It hurts David
> > directly. Any  mainstream help investment etc will be strictly old 
school
> > tie or  dads friends for everybody at this point until this goes away.
>  >
> > From a Wharton business school perspective, the best way to  solve this 
is
> > to do a pr and court blitz on Markus and drag David  in to accelerate 
the
> > legal costs overall. The first day would  cost $60k overall roughly,
> > Whoever is incorporated in the  US/Canada pays the most.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May  22, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Bob Snyder
> >  <bob.snyder@...<mailto:bob.snyder@...>> wrote:
>  >
> >
> > It begs the question whether you have attempted  to ask Markus yourself
> > and if so, what the response was. And if  not, why?
> >
> > Bob S.
> >
> >
>  > tronbros@...<mailto:tronbros%40aol.com> wrote:
>  >>
> >>_
> >> We too like David and get on  perfectly well with him. We don't want
> >> any confrontation but  it seems to me(us) that it is absurd for Markus
> >> to name a  product so closely after a competitors product that it's
> >>  either stupidity or a measured act of what exactly?.
> >>
>  >> Best,
> >>
> >> Martin
>  >>
> >
> >
> >
>

_ (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)

I think Markus is making a big mistake. Although I like and respect Markus, 
 I cannot understand why he would do this other than that the M4000 has 
made  buying a Mark VI an investment that no longer makes as much sense. The  
price/performance trade off for a M4000 is well worth it. Both are 
exceptionally  built machines, but c'mon, 24 voices and a whole lot of cool.
 
The machine Markus is marketing should not be called a M4000 and it  
shouldn't be called a Mellotron. It is neither. It is a digital sample playback  
machine that happens to only play back Mellotron samples. The Mellotron (real 
 one) itself is defined by what it is, how it works and  especially by it's 
limitations. 
 
The whole thing screams of desperation.
 
Markus, if you read this, I would strongly suggest you reconsider the name. 
 After all, Streetly didn't call their machine the Marc 6. Hell, they 
didn't even  call it a Novatron. They called it a M4000. Everyone who sees it 
knows it is a  Mellotron. They could have called it the Street XL-24 and it 
would still be a  Mellotron. You call your new machine a "Mellotron," but it  
isn't one, and the name you chose is petty.
 
Frank
 
There, I've said it.
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/22/2010 12:02:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tronbros@aol.com writes:

 
 
 
Ladies and Gentleman,
 
Markus the Swede seems to be hell bent on perpetuating friction  betwixt 
Streetly and his goodself and we don't understand why.   He has continued with 
the name M4000D for his new digital 'tron according to  the mellotron.com 
website.  This will only serve to confuse the  market place and lead people 
to us that would have gone solely to him.   It can work the other way also 
but to what end?  We really cannot  understand the marketing strategy and 
invite comments without fear of  reprisal.
 
Martin and JB - keeping the peace for many a year now.
Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic 
_www.mellotronics.www_ (http://www.mellotronics.com/)  
_JONSI and the M4000 -  _ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo) 





http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo
US  Sales East: Jimmy Moore_ JMoore6397@aol. JM_ 
(http://JMoore6397@aol.com/) 
US  Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@earthlink. pj_ 
(http://pjc56@earthlink.net/)   
Chloe Smith: _myspace.com/myspace.com/<WB_ 
(http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)

Gino may have a point, and that point may well be true in other countries.  
MA may own the rights to the Mellotron name, but obviously not to any 
active  patents.
 
 
In a message dated 5/22/2010 12:39:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wonggster@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
Since Streetly was first with the M4000, you can definitely enjoin  
importation of his rompler into the US by filing a Restraint of Trade  complaint.  
This sort of harassment is the sort of stuff that US law  works on.  On a 
civil level in the US whoever is more right prevails.  


If I was distributing Streetly product in the US Dave and Markus would  
both have heartburn.

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:02 PM, <_tronbros@aol.tro_ 
(mailto:tronbros@aol.com) > wrote:


 
 
 
Ladies and Gentleman,
 
Markus the Swede seems to be hell bent on perpetuating friction  betwixt 
Streetly and his goodself and we don't understand  why.  He has continued with 
the name M4000D for his new digital 'tron  according to the _mellotron.com_ 
(http://mellotron.com/)  website.   This will only serve to confuse the 
market place and lead people to us that  would have gone solely to him.  It can 
work the other way also but to  what end?  We really cannot understand the 
marketing strategy and  invite comments without fear of reprisal.
 
Martin and JB - keeping the peace for many a year now.
Streetly Electronics -  All Things Mellotronic 
_www.mellotronics.www_ (http://www.mellotronics.com/)  
_JONSI and  the M4000 -  http://www.youtube.JONSI and JONSI and  _ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo) 
US Sales East: Jimmy Moore_ JMoore6397@aol. JM_ 
(http://JMoore6397@aol.com/) 
US Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@earthlink. pj_ (http://pjc56@earthlink.net/) 
 
Chloe Smith: _myspace.com/myspace.com/<WB_ 
(http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)

So when is the Digital Novatron Mark VI coming out?
 
 
In a message dated 5/22/2010 12:02:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tronbros@aol.com writes:

 
 
 
Ladies and Gentleman,
 
Markus the Swede seems to be hell bent on perpetuating friction  betwixt 
Streetly and his goodself and we don't understand why.   He has continued with 
the name M4000D for his new digital 'tron according to  the mellotron.com 
website.  This will only serve to confuse the  market place and lead people 
to us that would have gone solely to him.   It can work the other way also 
but to what end?  We really cannot  understand the marketing strategy and 
invite comments without fear of  reprisal.
 
Martin and JB - keeping the peace for many a year now.
Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic 
_www.mellotronics.www_ (http://www.mellotronics.com/)  
_JONSI and the M4000 -  _ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQSq4o8jwo) 





http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo
US  Sales East: Jimmy Moore_ JMoore6397@aol. JM_ 
(http://JMoore6397@aol.com/) 
US  Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@earthlink. pj_ 
(http://pjc56@earthlink.net/)   
Chloe Smith: _myspace.com/myspace.com/<WB_ 
(http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)

I sent him an email asking why, weeks ago and he never replied.
 
 
In a message dated 5/22/2010 2:24:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bob.snyder@cox.net writes:

 
 
 
It begs the question whether you have attempted to ask Markus yourself  
and if so, what the response was. And if not, why?

Bob S.

_tronbros@aol.com_ (mailto:tronbros@aol.com)  wrote:

>  
>
> We too like David and get on perfectly well with him. We  don't want 
> any confrontation but it seems to me(us) that it is absurd  for Markus 
> to name a product so closely after a competitors product  that it's 
> either stupidity or a measured act of what exactly?.  
> 
> Best,
> 
> Martin
>

Why would Markus use M4000? What meaning does that nomenclature have for  
him other than to trade on Streetly''s success?
 
 
In a message dated 5/22/2010 4:49:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes:

I  don't see how the name issue could significantly help or hurt either 
company.

You are probably right Frank....but I don't see how that differs from the Korg BX-3 as opposed to the Hammond B-3.
Only one character difference yet there was never any confusion (or legal action) between the two.  It is simply good
marketing and I think Streetly should just take it as a complement.

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:53 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Markus the Mighty...................waht?


Why would Markus use M4000? What meaning does that nomenclature have for him other than to trade on Streetly''s success?

In a message dated 5/22/2010 4:49:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ecclesreinson@rogers.com<mailto:ecclesreinson@rogers.com> writes:
I don't see how the name issue could significantly help or hurt either company.

That's not the same thing, Gary. There are zillions of B-3s and they've  
been around for fifty years. The M4000 is a name Streetly chose for their new  
machine. The didn't call it the M-400C(yling) They didn't call it the Mark 
VI  multi-voice. They picked a new name for their new machine. They didn't 
even have  to call it a Mellotron.
 
Markus could have used his own name to trade on. Why not the Digital M-400  
or even better, the Mark VI D? Why, of all the numbers/names did he use 
M4000D?  I think it is because the M4000 is getting a lot of press and with all 
the hype  Dianna Dilworth has given him, he perceives it as the best of all 
worlds. People  could easily think that Streetly took the name from him.
 
I run a great risk here because I buy a lot of gear from Markus. But if he  
won't do business with me any more because I have an opinion and I think 
he's  wrong, what does that say? I hope he thinks better of all of this and 
when/if he  actually brings it to market he changes the name.
 
As I said, I also think it is ridiculous to call his new machine a  
Mellotron. He should call it the Digitron or the Mellosamp, or something like  that.
 
 
In a message dated 5/22/2010 6:13:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
gabru@comsec.net writes:

 
 
 
 
You are  probably right Frank….but I don’t see how that differs from the 
Korg BX-3 as  opposed to the Hammond B-3.   
Only one  character difference yet there was never any confusion (or legal 
action)  between the two.  It is simply good  
marketing and  I think Streetly should just take it as a complement. 

From: newmellotrongroup@ newmellotro newmellotrongroup@<WBR>yaho 
newmellotrongro newmellOn Behalf Of  lsf5275@aol.lsf
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:53  PM
To:  newmellotrongroup@  newmell  
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: Markus the  Mighty...... Re:  Re:  

 
 
 
 
Why would  Markus use M4000? What meaning does that nomenclature have for  
him other than to trade on Streetly''s  success?
 

 
 
In a message  dated 5/22/2010 4:49:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
_ecclesrein son@ecclesrein_ (mailto:ecclesreinson@rogers.com)   writes:

I  don't see how the name issue could significantly help or hurt either  
company.

I believe Streetly's value statement, or at least what I think it is,  will ultimately win out.   Authenticity and superior performance has always, always, always been their mantra.  I have never heard the M4000 in person, but you can hear it pop on any format, network TV, youTube etc. 

What company has done more to promote a living growing library of unique high quality sounds? 


fritz

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Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Markus the Mighty...................waht?


  
    
                  

That's not the same thing, Gary. There are zillions of B-3s and they've been around for fifty years. The M4000 is a name Streetly chose for their new machine. The didn't call it the M-400C(yling) They didn't call it the Mark VI multi-voice. They picked a new name for their new machine. They didn't even have to call it a Mellotron.
 
Markus could have used his own name to trade on. Why not the Digital M-400 or even better, the Mark VI D? Why, of all the numbers/names did he use M4000D? I think it is because the M4000 is getting a lot of press and with all the hype Dianna Dilworth has given him, he perceives it as the best of all worlds. People could easily think that Streetly took the name from him.
 
I run a great risk here because I buy a lot of gear from Markus. But if he won't do business with me any more because I have an opinion and I think he's wrong, what does that say? I hope he thinks better of all of this and when/if he actually brings it to market he changes the name.
 
As I said, I also think it is ridiculous to call his new machine a Mellotron. He should call it the Digitron or the Mellosamp, or something like that.
 

In a message dated 5/22/2010 6:13:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
    
  
  
  
You are   probably right Frank….but I don’t see how that differs from the Korg BX-3 as   opposed to the Hammond B-3.  
  
Only one   character difference yet there was never any confusion (or legal action)   between the two.  It is simply good 
  
marketing and   I think Streetly should just take it as a complement.
  
  
  
  
  
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com   [mailto:newmello trongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of   lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:53   PM
To:   newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:   [newmellotrongroup] Re: Markus the   Mighty...................waht?

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Why would   Markus use M4000? What meaning does that nomenclature have for   him other than to trade on Streetly''s   success?
  
  

  
  
  
In a message   dated 5/22/2010 4:49:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ecclesrein son@rogers.com   writes:
  
    
I     don't see how the name issue could significantly help or hurt either     company.

> Its streetly right ?
> 
> 
> What company has done more to promote a living growing library of unique high
> quality sounds? 
> 
> 
> fritz
>  
>  
>

Fritz, you are welcome to come play mine any time. Last night I figured out 
 that you push the green button back to turn it on. For nearly a year I've 
been  trying to twist it, with no luck at all.
 
 
In a message dated 5/23/2010 9:53:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
fdoddy@aol.com writes:

I believe Streetly's value  statement, or at least what I think it is,  
will ultimately win  out.   Authenticity and superior performance has always, 
always,  always been their mantra.  I have never heard the M4000 in person, 
but  you can hear it pop on any format, network TV, youTube etc.

I would say the operative word is "Growing." Markus has certainly tried to  
get the Mellotron sounds out there, but I am not aware that he has created 
or  gathered many new sounds. Surprisingly, he isn't going after  the 
torrent sites that are giving away the Mellotron Archives CD. He  should.
 
I think that there has been huge support for growing the Streetly library  
and there are some amazingly great sounds to be found there.
 
 
In a message dated 5/23/2010 10:55:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se writes:

 
 
 

Its  streetly right ?


What company has done more to promote a living  growing library of unique 
high  quality sounds?  


fritz

It does seem somewhat obtuse for Marcus to close such a confusingly similar product name, 
but I honestly doubt it will confuse potential buyers very much, 
as most mellotron buyers are nerdy geeks who will use the Interweb to find out all the facts about their instruments, and so are well aware that mellotrons are produced both by the Judean People's Front and the People's Front of Judea.

Markus the Swede seems to be hell bent on perpetuating friction betwixt Streetly and his goodself and we don't understand why.

Even Manikin, who as far I'm aware have no "previous" with Martin  and 
John, had the decency to avoid any marketing conflicts. 
Apart from the obvious play on words, the Memotron can sit alongside  the 
real deal as a genuine alternative for those who need an ultra portable  
sound alike machine. It doesn't even look like a tron! (Or sound like one, I  
hear some say) but it's close enough for certain applications.
What has happened here is a blatant attempt to cash in on someone elses  
success in bringing a brilliantly engineered and wonderful sounding instrument 
 to the world market. There is no doubt in my mind that it is intended to 
"trick"  those who use search engines to look for info on the M4000 to 
provide the  searchers with info on Marcus's machine.
Tacky, very tacky.
Andy K

In a message dated 5/23/2010 8:26:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se writes:

So...this is the the last email on the subject right ? We are all ok  with 
this. Seems very clear and  easy.