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Re: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6

2010-11-04 by Paul Cunningham

if it doesnt take a cv pedal
 it takes a regular switch like a sustain pedal.

it has to be programmed into the modulation matrix to work. it usually does nothing or unexpected things to the factory patches. -pc


On Nov 2, 2010, at 6:38 PM, "steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@...> wrote:

> No, the keyboard has two pedal inputs, unlike the rack. Third try.
> 
> --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, "LarryS" <vision1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I can't.
> > I had always thought that the keyboard was exactly the same as the rack.
> > EXACTLY. Same elex.. just had a keyboard strapped on. As was the case with
> > many synths of the day.
> > 
> > In which case, we've answered this question. Twice.
> > 
> > I guess we could answer it two more times if it'd make you feel better.
> > 
> > The keyboard was available as the Xk-1, btw.
> > 
> > In any case, as I said before, nothing is "built in" to the Matrix 6. Not
> > volume, not expression, nothing. If you want an input to do something,
> > expression or anything else, you gotta program it to do so through the
> > matrix modulation portion of each patch. You have to assign it a paramter
> > to modulate otherwise it won't, no matter what you plug in.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steinbergerstyler
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 11:46 AM
> > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > > 
> > > Is anyone able to answer my original question? I have a 
> > > Matrix 6 KEYBOARD-not rack. It has a pedal input. What type 
> > > of pedal is required for this? Will a standard expression 
> > > pedal work or is there a special kind of pedal that is required?
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, there is a way to work around that.
> > > > 
> > > > Take a quarter phone jack and solder to it a standard 9 volt power
> > > > connector. Attach a 9 volt battery to it and plug it into 
> > > one side of a mono
> > > > volume pedal. Plug the other side to the CV input jack, and 
> > > you've just
> > > > converted a volume pedal to a CV pedal. 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > > Of LarryS
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:51 AM
> > > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I"m not "proposing" this, I'm saying it's the only way to 
> > > do it that I've
> > > > ever heard of.
> > > > 
> > > > If you want midi input of volume, whether it by pedal, 
> > > sequencer, or master
> > > > contoller, the midi data has to modulate something because 
> > > NOTHING is
> > > > built-in, like you've seen on other synths. In this case, 
> > > to control
> > > > volume, your choices are either VCA1 or VCA2. As VCA1 is 
> > > best used for
> > > > envelope work, the logical choice is VCA2. 
> > > > 
> > > > Route midi CC7 (or whatever you're using) to VCA2 modulation in the
> > > > modulation matrix section of your programming. Easy-peasy. 
> > > I don't have
> > > > one in front of me, but you can surely figure this out.
> > > > 
> > > > IIRC, and it's been over 20 years, guys, the CV input is 
> > > NOT for a "cv
> > > > pedal" as such. It's for a control voltage, not a regular 
> > > pot pedal as
> > > > there is no voltage biasing on the jack. You have to 
> > > squirt some voltage
> > > > INTO it, like if it were connected to a modular system. So 
> > > it's never gonna
> > > > work with a volume pedal.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > 
> > > > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > > Behalf Of atmospherics4@
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:32 AM
> > > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm still confused about this process.....you are 
> > > proposing giving
> > > > up VCA number two, which would be routed to be controlled 
> > > by CC#7..is there
> > > > a block diagram that shows this patch? 
> > > > 
> > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > 
> > > > From: "steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@> 
> > > > Sender: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 07:49:19 -0000
> > > > To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > ReplyTo: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Subject: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I actually want to use the built-in CV pedal input to control CC
> > > > #2--according to the manual this can be done...anyone?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > , "LarryS" <vision1@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The M6R does not respond to CC 7 or midi volume like 
> > > the Matrix
> > > > 1000 does.
> > > > > This is the chief reason I could not get rid of my M6R fast
> > > > enough. Great
> > > > > machine. Nice sound. Liked the Opcode Galaxy editing software.
> > > > HATED the
> > > > > fact it had no overall volume.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The only way to make it work is to use your matrix 
> > > mod and patch a
> > > > CC to
> > > > > VCA2, thus using up your VCA2 strictly for 
> > > controllable volume.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's way better to just get an analog guitar volume pot pedal
> > > > (like the
> > > > > Ernie Ball) if you want vol control.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > _____ 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > Of atmospherics4@
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 4:11 PM
> > > > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > > Subject: Re: [oberheim] expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have the same problem...I have never been able to get an
> > > > expression or
> > > > > volume pedal to work on the matrix 6R.....I don't know how to
> > > > patch it and
> > > > > control It via midi....any suggestions? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> > > > > 
> > > > > _____ 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: "steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@> 
> > > > > Sender: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > > Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:24 -0000
> > > > > To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > ReplyTo: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > > Subject: [oberheim] expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can anyone recommend an expression (CC) pedal to use with the
> > > > Matrix 6? Will
> > > > > a standard expression pedal like the Yamaha FC7 of 
> > > M-Audio EX-P
> > > > work or does
> > > > > it require something more specialized?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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