if it doesnt take a cv pedal it takes a regular switch like a sustain pedal. it has to be programmed into the modulation matrix to work. it usually does nothing or unexpected things to the factory patches. -pc On Nov 2, 2010, at 6:38 PM, "steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@...> wrote: > No, the keyboard has two pedal inputs, unlike the rack. Third try. > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, "LarryS" <vision1@...> wrote: > > > > Sorry, I can't. > > I had always thought that the keyboard was exactly the same as the rack. > > EXACTLY. Same elex.. just had a keyboard strapped on. As was the case with > > many synths of the day. > > > > In which case, we've answered this question. Twice. > > > > I guess we could answer it two more times if it'd make you feel better. > > > > The keyboard was available as the Xk-1, btw. > > > > In any case, as I said before, nothing is "built in" to the Matrix 6. Not > > volume, not expression, nothing. If you want an input to do something, > > expression or anything else, you gotta program it to do so through the > > matrix modulation portion of each patch. You have to assign it a paramter > > to modulate otherwise it won't, no matter what you plug in. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steinbergerstyler > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 11:46 AM > > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6 > > > > > > Is anyone able to answer my original question? I have a > > > Matrix 6 KEYBOARD-not rack. It has a pedal input. What type > > > of pedal is required for this? Will a standard expression > > > pedal work or is there a special kind of pedal that is required? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, there is a way to work around that. > > > > > > > > Take a quarter phone jack and solder to it a standard 9 volt power > > > > connector. Attach a 9 volt battery to it and plug it into > > > one side of a mono > > > > volume pedal. Plug the other side to the CV input jack, and > > > you've just > > > > converted a volume pedal to a CV pedal. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > > > > Of LarryS > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:51 AM > > > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: RE: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I"m not "proposing" this, I'm saying it's the only way to > > > do it that I've > > > > ever heard of. > > > > > > > > If you want midi input of volume, whether it by pedal, > > > sequencer, or master > > > > contoller, the midi data has to modulate something because > > > NOTHING is > > > > built-in, like you've seen on other synths. In this case, > > > to control > > > > volume, your choices are either VCA1 or VCA2. As VCA1 is > > > best used for > > > > envelope work, the logical choice is VCA2. > > > > > > > > Route midi CC7 (or whatever you're using) to VCA2 modulation in the > > > > modulation matrix section of your programming. Easy-peasy. > > > I don't have > > > > one in front of me, but you can surely figure this out. > > > > > > > > IIRC, and it's been over 20 years, guys, the CV input is > > > NOT for a "cv > > > > pedal" as such. It's for a control voltage, not a regular > > > pot pedal as > > > > there is no voltage biasing on the jack. You have to > > > squirt some voltage > > > > INTO it, like if it were connected to a modular system. So > > > it's never gonna > > > > work with a volume pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com] On > > > > Behalf Of atmospherics4@ > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:32 AM > > > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm still confused about this process.....you are > > > proposing giving > > > > up VCA number two, which would be routed to be controlled > > > by CC#7..is there > > > > a block diagram that shows this patch? > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > From: "steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@> > > > > Sender: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > > Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 07:49:19 -0000 > > > > To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com> > > > > ReplyTo: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I actually want to use the built-in CV pedal input to control CC > > > > #2--according to the manual this can be done...anyone? > > > > > > > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > , "LarryS" <vision1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The M6R does not respond to CC 7 or midi volume like > > > the Matrix > > > > 1000 does. > > > > > This is the chief reason I could not get rid of my M6R fast > > > > enough. Great > > > > > machine. Nice sound. Liked the Opcode Galaxy editing software. > > > > HATED the > > > > > fact it had no overall volume. > > > > > > > > > > The only way to make it work is to use your matrix > > > mod and patch a > > > > CC to > > > > > VCA2, thus using up your VCA2 strictly for > > > controllable volume. > > > > > > > > > > It's way better to just get an analog guitar volume pot pedal > > > > (like the > > > > > Ernie Ball) if you want vol control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > > > > Behalf > > > > > Of atmospherics4@ > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 4:11 PM > > > > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Subject: Re: [oberheim] expression pedal for Matrix 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same problem...I have never been able to get an > > > > expression or > > > > > volume pedal to work on the matrix 6R.....I don't know how to > > > > patch it and > > > > > control It via midi....any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: "steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@> > > > > > Sender: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:24 -0000 > > > > > To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > > ReplyTo: oberheim@yahoogroups.com > > > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Subject: [oberheim] expression pedal for Matrix 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone recommend an expression (CC) pedal to use with the > > > > Matrix 6? Will > > > > > a standard expression pedal like the Yamaha FC7 of > > > M-Audio EX-P > > > > work or does > > > > > it require something more specialized? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
2010-11-04 by Paul Cunningham
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