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Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6

2010-11-02 by steinbergerstyler

Is anyone able to answer my original question? I have a Matrix 6 KEYBOARD-not rack. It has a pedal input.  What type of pedal is required for this?  Will a standard expression pedal work or is there a special kind of pedal that is required?

Thanks.

--- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@...> wrote:
>
> Well, there is a way to work around that.
> 
> Take a quarter phone jack and solder to it a standard 9 volt power
> connector. Attach a 9 volt battery to it and plug it into one side of a mono
> volume pedal. Plug the other side to the CV input jack, and you've just
> converted a volume pedal to a CV pedal. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of LarryS
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:51 AM
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
> 
>   
> 
> I"m not "proposing" this, I'm saying it's the only way to do it that I've
> ever heard of.
>  
> If you want midi input of volume, whether it by pedal, sequencer, or master
> contoller, the midi data has to modulate something because NOTHING is
> built-in, like you've seen on other synths.  In this case, to control
> volume, your choices are either VCA1 or VCA2.  As VCA1 is best used for
> envelope work, the logical choice is VCA2.  
>  
> Route midi CC7 (or whatever you're using) to VCA2 modulation in the
> modulation matrix section of your programming.  Easy-peasy.  I don't have
> one in front of me, but you can surely figure this out.
>  
> IIRC, and it's been over 20 years, guys, the CV input is NOT for a "cv
> pedal" as such.  It's for a control voltage, not a regular pot pedal as
> there is no voltage biasing on the jack.  You have to squirt some voltage
> INTO it, like if it were connected to a modular system.  So it's never gonna
> work with a volume pedal.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> 	From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of atmospherics4@...
> 	Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:32 AM
> 	To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> 	Subject: Re: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
> 	
> 	
> 	I'm still confused about this process.....you are proposing giving
> up VCA number two, which would be routed to be controlled by CC#7..is there
> a block diagram that shows this patch? 
> 
> 	Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> 	From: "steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@...> 
> 	Sender: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> 	Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 07:49:19 -0000
> 	To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
> 	ReplyTo: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> 	Subject: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
> 
> 	  
> 
> 	I actually want to use the built-in CV pedal input to control CC
> #2--according to the manual this can be done...anyone?
> 	
> 	--- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>
> , "LarryS" <vision1@> wrote:
> 	>
> 	> The M6R does not respond to CC 7 or midi volume like the Matrix
> 1000 does.
> 	> This is the chief reason I could not get rid of my M6R fast
> enough. Great
> 	> machine. Nice sound. Liked the Opcode Galaxy editing software.
> HATED the
> 	> fact it had no overall volume.
> 	> 
> 	> The only way to make it work is to use your matrix mod and patch a
> CC to
> 	> VCA2, thus using up your VCA2 strictly for controllable volume.
> 	> 
> 	> It's way better to just get an analog guitar volume pot pedal
> (like the
> 	> Ernie Ball) if you want vol control.
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> _____ 
> 	> 
> 	> From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:oberheim@...m <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> 	> Of atmospherics4@
> 	> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 4:11 PM
> 	> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> 
> 	> Subject: Re: [oberheim] expression pedal for Matrix 6
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> I have the same problem...I have never been able to get an
> expression or
> 	> volume pedal to work on the matrix 6R.....I don't know how to
> patch it and
> 	> control It via midi....any suggestions? 
> 	> 
> 	> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 	> 
> 	> _____ 
> 	> 
> 	> From: "steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@> 
> 	> Sender: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>  
> 	> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:24 -0000
> 	> To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> 	> ReplyTo: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>  
> 	> Subject: [oberheim] expression pedal for Matrix 6
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> Can anyone recommend an expression (CC) pedal to use with the
> Matrix 6? Will
> 	> a standard expression pedal like the Yamaha FC7 of M-Audio EX-P
> work or does
> 	> it require something more specialized?
> 	> 
> 	> Thanks!
> 	>
>

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