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Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6

2010-11-02 by steinbergerstyler

No, the keyboard has two pedal inputs, unlike the rack. Third try.

--- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, "LarryS" <vision1@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I can't.
> I had always thought that the keyboard was exactly the same as the rack.
> EXACTLY.  Same elex.. just had a keyboard strapped on.  As was the case with
> many synths of the day.
> 
> In which case, we've answered this question.  Twice.
> 
> I guess we could answer it two more times if it'd make you feel better.
> 
> The keyboard was available as the Xk-1, btw.
> 
> In any case, as I said before, nothing is "built in" to the Matrix 6.  Not
> volume, not expression, nothing.  If you want an input to do something,
> expression or anything else, you gotta program it to do so through the
> matrix modulation portion of each patch.  You have to assign it a paramter
> to modulate otherwise it won't, no matter what you plug in.
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steinbergerstyler
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 11:46 AM
> > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > 
> > Is anyone able to answer my original question? I have a 
> > Matrix 6 KEYBOARD-not rack. It has a pedal input.  What type 
> > of pedal is required for this?  Will a standard expression 
> > pedal work or is there a special kind of pedal that is required?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, there is a way to work around that.
> > > 
> > > Take a quarter phone jack and solder to it a standard 9 volt power
> > > connector. Attach a 9 volt battery to it and plug it into 
> > one side of a mono
> > > volume pedal. Plug the other side to the CV input jack, and 
> > you've just
> > > converted a volume pedal to a CV pedal. 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > Of LarryS
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:51 AM
> > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > I"m not "proposing" this, I'm saying it's the only way to 
> > do it that I've
> > > ever heard of.
> > >  
> > > If you want midi input of volume, whether it by pedal, 
> > sequencer, or master
> > > contoller, the midi data has to modulate something because 
> > NOTHING is
> > > built-in, like you've seen on other synths.  In this case, 
> > to control
> > > volume, your choices are either VCA1 or VCA2.  As VCA1 is 
> > best used for
> > > envelope work, the logical choice is VCA2.  
> > >  
> > > Route midi CC7 (or whatever you're using) to VCA2 modulation in the
> > > modulation matrix section of your programming.  Easy-peasy. 
> >  I don't have
> > > one in front of me, but you can surely figure this out.
> > >  
> > > IIRC, and it's been over 20 years, guys, the CV input is 
> > NOT for a "cv
> > > pedal" as such.  It's for a control voltage, not a regular 
> > pot pedal as
> > > there is no voltage biasing on the jack.  You have to 
> > squirt some voltage
> > > INTO it, like if it were connected to a modular system.  So 
> > it's never gonna
> > > work with a volume pedal.
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > 
> > > 	From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of atmospherics4@
> > > 	Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:32 AM
> > > 	To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > 	Subject: Re: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > > 	
> > > 	
> > > 	I'm still confused about this process.....you are 
> > proposing giving
> > > up VCA number two, which would be routed to be controlled 
> > by CC#7..is there
> > > a block diagram that shows this patch? 
> > > 
> > > 	Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > 
> > > 	From: "steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@> 
> > > 	Sender: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > 	Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 07:49:19 -0000
> > > 	To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
> > > 	ReplyTo: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > > 	Subject: [oberheim] Re: expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > > 
> > > 	  
> > > 
> > > 	I actually want to use the built-in CV pedal input to control CC
> > > #2--according to the manual this can be done...anyone?
> > > 	
> > > 	--- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > , "LarryS" <vision1@> wrote:
> > > 	>
> > > 	> The M6R does not respond to CC 7 or midi volume like 
> > the Matrix
> > > 1000 does.
> > > 	> This is the chief reason I could not get rid of my M6R fast
> > > enough. Great
> > > 	> machine. Nice sound. Liked the Opcode Galaxy editing software.
> > > HATED the
> > > 	> fact it had no overall volume.
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> The only way to make it work is to use your matrix 
> > mod and patch a
> > > CC to
> > > 	> VCA2, thus using up your VCA2 strictly for 
> > controllable volume.
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> It's way better to just get an analog guitar volume pot pedal
> > > (like the
> > > 	> Ernie Ball) if you want vol control.
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> _____ 
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > > Behalf
> > > 	> Of atmospherics4@
> > > 	> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 4:11 PM
> > > 	> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > 	> Subject: Re: [oberheim] expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> I have the same problem...I have never been able to get an
> > > expression or
> > > 	> volume pedal to work on the matrix 6R.....I don't know how to
> > > patch it and
> > > 	> control It via midi....any suggestions? 
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> _____ 
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> From: "steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@> 
> > > 	> Sender: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > > 	> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:24 -0000
> > > 	> To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >
> > > 	> ReplyTo: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > > 	> Subject: [oberheim] expression pedal for Matrix 6
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> Can anyone recommend an expression (CC) pedal to use with the
> > > Matrix 6? Will
> > > 	> a standard expression pedal like the Yamaha FC7 of 
> > M-Audio EX-P
> > > work or does
> > > 	> it require something more specialized?
> > > 	> 
> > > 	> Thanks!
> > > 	>
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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