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2002-10-22 by ufound12
I have been doing my web homework and except for speed and Sound Roms, I am guessing the MP-7 has all the same features as the 2500. I like having the knobs nearby to live mix my 50 or so MIDI song files, and I hope they will fit. Thanks, Joe
2002-10-22 by Raj
hi I've never seen the attraction in the Proteus 2500... its not a beautiful thing like the xl7/mp7 either ;-) Plus the way its priced it seems to compete with the Command stations and not really offer anything more...or am i wrong?
----- Original Message -----
From: ufound12
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 5:43 AM
Subject: [xl7] Why buy a 2500?
I have been doing my web homework and except for speed and Sound
Roms, I am guessing the MP-7 has all the same features as the 2500.
I like having the knobs nearby to live mix my 50 or so MIDI song
files, and I hope they will fit.
Thanks, Joe
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2002-10-22 by ->Nobody<-
I've had the feeling the 2500 and XX-7 were the same beast, sharing the same operating system, minus the pads for the rackmount obviously. The specs say the 2500 has 3 time the processing power of the *2000*. I'm I wrong assuming the XX-7 shares the same engine than the 2500, for the same price? It's not like the 2500 could more be used as a stand-alone hardware sequencer than the XX-7, which are marketed for in the first place (be it a la Groovebox/RM1x). So why would the 2500 have a more powerful CPU? Or I'm I seriously mistaken here? ufound12 wrote: > I have been doing my web homework and except for speed and Sound > Roms, I am guessing the MP-7 has all the same features as the 2500. -- Sebastien, -=-=-=-=-= An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405 http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...) http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious
2002-10-22 by Nathan Larson
The Proteus 2500 has a faster processor than the XX-7 and P2K. It also has 24 bit digital outs where as the XX-7 has 20 bit. My guess on the faster CPU is probably most people using the 2500 would be doing big 32 track sequences via a computer and that faster processor would come in handy. The XX-7 has the internal 16 track sequencer and most people would use that rather than a computer based sequencer and the 32 channels. Hence no need for the faster CPU. Just a guess on their thoughts though... Nathan >From: "->Nobody<-" <poumtschak@...> >Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [xl7] Why buy a 2500? >Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:33:08 +0200 > >I've had the feeling the 2500 and XX-7 were the same beast, sharing >the same operating system, minus the pads for the rackmount obviously. >The specs say the 2500 has 3 time the processing power of the *2000*. > >I'm I wrong assuming the XX-7 shares the same engine than the 2500, >for the same price? It's not like the 2500 could more be used as a >stand-alone hardware sequencer than the XX-7, which are marketed for >in the first place (be it a la Groovebox/RM1x). So why would the 2500 >have a more powerful CPU? > >Or I'm I seriously mistaken here? > >ufound12 wrote: > > I have been doing my web homework and except for speed and Sound > > Roms, I am guessing the MP-7 has all the same features as the 2500. >-- >Sebastien, >-=-=-=-=-= >An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. > >mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405 >http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...) >http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ _________________________________________________________________ Broadband?\ufffdDial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
2002-10-22 by Ravi Ivan Sharma
I am not sure about these claims. My understanding was that the XX-7 and p2500 are identical except for the casing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Larson" <greenhousemusic@...> To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [xl7] Why buy a 2500? > The Proteus 2500 has a faster processor than the XX-7 and P2K. It also has > 24 bit digital outs where as the XX-7 has 20 bit. My guess on the faster > CPU is probably most people using the 2500 would be doing big 32 track > sequences via a computer and that faster processor would come in handy. The
> XX-7 has the internal 16 track sequencer and most people would use that > rather than a computer based sequencer and the 32 channels. Hence no need > for the faster CPU. Just a guess on their thoughts though... > > Nathan > > > >From: "->Nobody<-" <poumtschak@...> > >Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [xl7] Why buy a 2500? > >Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:33:08 +0200 > > > >I've had the feeling the 2500 and XX-7 were the same beast, sharing > >the same operating system, minus the pads for the rackmount obviously. > >The specs say the 2500 has 3 time the processing power of the *2000*. > > > >I'm I wrong assuming the XX-7 shares the same engine than the 2500, > >for the same price? It's not like the 2500 could more be used as a > >stand-alone hardware sequencer than the XX-7, which are marketed for > >in the first place (be it a la Groovebox/RM1x). So why would the 2500 > >have a more powerful CPU? > > > >Or I'm I seriously mistaken here? > > > >ufound12 wrote: > > > I have been doing my web homework and except for speed and Sound > > > Roms, I am guessing the MP-7 has all the same features as the 2500. > >-- > >Sebastien, > >-=-=-=-=-= > >An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. > > > >mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405 > >http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...) > >http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2002-10-22 by ->Nobody<-
Nathan Larson wrote: > The Proteus 2500 has a faster processor than the XX-7 and P2K. > It also has 24 bit digital outs where as the XX-7 has 20 bit. Just found this: http://www.emulatorarchive.com/ModuleOverview/ModMoPhattCS/modmophattcs.html Mmmhhh... Anyway. :) -- Sebastien, -=-=-=-=-= An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405 http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...) http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious
2002-10-22 by Jon
From the EMU spec sheets: xx-7: Data Encoding: 16-bit linear, 24-bit DAC's, Signal to Noise: >100 dB Frequency Response: 20-20,000Hz (+0.0/-0.1dB) THD + Noise (DAC's): <0.002% Power Consumption: 15 watts Voltage Input: 90VAC 260VAC at 50Hz 60 Hz Maximum Output Level: +6dBV Output Impedance: 1000 Ohms P2500: Data Encoding: 16-bit linear, 24-bit DAC's, Signal to Noise: >100 dB Frequency Response: 20-20,000Hz (+0.0/-0.1dB) THD + Noise (DAC's): <0.002% Power Consumption: 15 watts Voltage Input: 90VAC 260VAC at 50Hz 60 Hz Maximum Output Level: +6dBV Output Impedance: 1000 Ohms Looks identical to me... /Jon --- In xl7@y..., "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@h...> wrote: > I am not sure about these claims. My understanding was that the XX- 7 and > p2500 are identical except for the casing. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nathan Larson" <greenhousemusic@h...> > To: <xl7@y...> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [xl7] Why buy a 2500? > > > > The Proteus 2500 has a faster processor than the XX-7 and P2K. It also > has > > 24 bit digital outs where as the XX-7 has 20 bit. My guess on the faster > > CPU is probably most people using the 2500 would be doing big 32 track > > sequences via a computer and that faster processor would come in handy. > The > > XX-7 has the internal 16 track sequencer and most people would use that > > rather than a computer based sequencer and the 32 channels. Hence no need
> > for the faster CPU. Just a guess on their thoughts though... > > > > Nathan > >
2002-10-22 by M2
Correct Ravi. The claims are compared to the Proteus 1000 and 2000 series modules. --- In xl7@y..., "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@h...> wrote: > I am not sure about these claims. My understanding was that the XX- 7 and > p2500 are identical except for the casing. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nathan Larson" <greenhousemusic@h...> > To: <xl7@y...> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [xl7] Why buy a 2500? > > > > The Proteus 2500 has a faster processor than the XX-7 and P2K. It also > has > > 24 bit digital outs where as the XX-7 has 20 bit. My guess on the faster > > CPU is probably most people using the 2500 would be doing big 32 track > > sequences via a computer and that faster processor would come in handy. > The > > XX-7 has the internal 16 track sequencer and most people would use that > > rather than a computer based sequencer and the 32 channels. Hence no need > > for the faster CPU. Just a guess on their thoughts though... > > > > Nathan > > > > > > >From: "->Nobody<-" <poumtschak@f...> > > >Reply-To: xl7@y... > > >To: xl7@y... > > >Subject: Re: [xl7] Why buy a 2500? > > >Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:33:08 +0200 > > > > > >I've had the feeling the 2500 and XX-7 were the same beast, sharing > > >the same operating system, minus the pads for the rackmount obviously. > > >The specs say the 2500 has 3 time the processing power of the *2000*. > > > > > >I'm I wrong assuming the XX-7 shares the same engine than the 2500, > > >for the same price? It's not like the 2500 could more be used as a > > >stand-alone hardware sequencer than the XX-7, which are marketed for > > >in the first place (be it a la Groovebox/RM1x). So why would the 2500 > > >have a more powerful CPU? > > > > > >Or I'm I seriously mistaken here? > > > > > >ufound12 wrote: > > > > I have been doing my web homework and except for speed and Sound > > > > Roms, I am guessing the MP-7 has all the same features as the 2500. > > >-- > > >Sebastien, > > >-=-=-=-=-= > > >An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. > > > > > >mailto:poumtschak@f... -=- ICQ# 6030405 > > >http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...) > > >http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious > > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > >xl7-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. > > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > xl7-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >
2002-10-22 by terryfunken@aol.com
In a message dated 22/10/02 9:10:56 pm, ppc_@... writes: >Looks identical to me... Yeah right- try placing one of those on your lap!
2002-10-22 by Nathan Larson
Yeah I guess it looks that way... I called E-Mu and they said that there is no difference between the units. Both units have the same processor and DACs. Other than the pads and touchstrip, it's down to the soundset. Sorry for the mis-info! Best, Nathan >From: "Jon" <ppc_@...> >Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [xl7] Re: Why buy a 2500? >Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:09:58 -0000 > >From the EMU spec sheets: > >xx-7: >Data Encoding: 16-bit linear, 24-bit DAC's, >Signal to Noise: >100 dB >Frequency Response: 20-20,000Hz (+0.0/-0.1dB) >THD + Noise (DAC's): <0.002% >Power Consumption: 15 watts >Voltage Input: 90VAC \ufffd 260VAC at 50Hz \ufffd 60 Hz >Maximum Output Level: +6dBV >Output Impedance: 1000 Ohms > >P2500: >Data Encoding: 16-bit linear, 24-bit DAC's, >Signal to Noise: >100 dB >Frequency Response: 20-20,000Hz (+0.0/-0.1dB) >THD + Noise (DAC's): <0.002% >Power Consumption: 15 watts >Voltage Input: 90VAC \ufffd 260VAC at 50Hz \ufffd 60 Hz >Maximum Output Level: +6dBV >Output Impedance: 1000 Ohms > >Looks identical to me... > >/Jon >--- In xl7@y..., "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@h...> wrote: > > I am not sure about these claims. My understanding was that the XX- >7 and > > p2500 are identical except for the casing. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nathan Larson" <greenhousemusic@h...> > > To: <xl7@y...> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [xl7] Why buy a 2500? > > > > > > > The Proteus 2500 has a faster processor than the XX-7 and P2K. >It also > > has > > > 24 bit digital outs where as the XX-7 has 20 bit. My guess on >the faster > > > CPU is probably most people using the 2500 would be doing big 32 >track > > > sequences via a computer and that faster processor would come in >handy. > > The > > > XX-7 has the internal 16 track sequencer and most people would >use that > > > rather than a computer based sequencer and the 32 channels. >Hence no need > > > for the faster CPU. Just a guess on their thoughts though... > > > > > > Nathan > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections\ufffd-- switch to\ufffdMSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
2002-10-23 by ufound12
Sebastien, The link helped a LOT. It seems the 2500 has 128 voices!! Not an issue for me <even when I add the B-3 ROM and try a snowplow slide> Thanks everyone for the comments...... Joe --- In xl7@y..., "->Nobody<-" <poumtschak@f...> wrote: > Nathan Larson wrote: > > The Proteus 2500 has a faster processor than the XX-7 and P2K. > > It also has 24 bit digital outs where as the XX-7 has 20 bit. > > Just found this: > http://www.emulatorarchive.com/ModuleOverview/ModMoPhattCS/modmophatt cs.html
> > Mmmhhh... > > Anyway. :) > -- > Sebastien, > -=-=-=-=-= > An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. > > mailto:poumtschak@f... -=- ICQ# 6030405 > http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...) > http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious
2002-10-23 by Richard.Zelzer@t-online.de
Hi, The XX-7 has also 128 Voices!!! Richard Am 23.10.2002 5:15 Uhr schrieb "ufound12" unter <ufound12@...>: > Sebastien, > > The link helped a LOT. It seems the 2500 has 128 voices!! > Not an issue for me <even when I add the B-3 ROM and try a snowplow > slide> > > Thanks everyone for the comments...... > Joe > > > > --- In xl7@y..., "->Nobody<-" <poumtschak@f...> wrote: >> Nathan Larson wrote: >>> The Proteus 2500 has a faster processor than the XX-7 and P2K. >>> It also has 24 bit digital outs where as the XX-7 has 20 bit. >> >> Just found this: >> > http://www.emulatorarchive.com/ModuleOverview/ModMoPhattCS/modmophatt > cs.html >> >> Mmmhhh... >> >> Anyway. :) >> -- >> Sebastien, >> -=-=-=-=-= >> An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. >> >> mailto:poumtschak@f... -=- ICQ# 6030405 >> http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...) >> http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ----------------------------------- Richard Zelzer Internet: http://www.zelzer.com http://www.zhtml.de http://www.zmac.de http://www.zmusik.de