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looking for a mixer and some monitors to hook my xl-7, korg es-1 and my 
turntables up too just wondering if anyone has any suggestions


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Welcome to the wonderful world of gear aquisition...

What's your budget? What, no limit did you say?

http://www.speck.com/xmix_2.shtml
http://www.genelec.com/products/1037c/1037c.php

Alternately, you could get a behringer line mixer for $100...

Speakers are a sliding scale, and you usually >do< get what you pay for. 

bIz

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  looking for a mixer and some monitors to hook my xl-7, korg es-1 and my 
  turntables up too just wondering if anyone has any suggestions


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How much do you want to spend?

rEalm





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looking for a mixer and some monitors to hook my xl-7, korg es-1 and my 
turntables up too just wondering if anyone has any suggestions


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Yamaha has a good reputation for mixers as well, and the MG10/2 
arrives soon. I'll post a review on it once mine arrives, but it's a 
10-channel mixer with EQ for ~$100. Hard to beat that if it sounds 
decent!

/.j


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "biz" <biz@g...> wrote:
> Welcome to the wonderful world of gear aquisition...
> 
> What's your budget? What, no limit did you say?
> 
> http://www.speck.com/xmix_2.shtml
> http://www.genelec.com/products/1037c/1037c.php
> 
> Alternately, you could get a behringer line mixer for $100...
> 
> Speakers are a sliding scale, and you usually >do< get what you 
pay for. 
> 
> bIz
> 
> ------------
> http://www.groovetronica.com - "Well, it hasn't made it into our 
playlist, I'm afraid. It's summer so there are no djs here to listen 
to and play stuff, so we're just playing automated music right now."
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> 
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>   Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:02 PM
>   Subject: [xl7] mixer and monitor
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>   looking for a mixer and some monitors to hook my xl-7, korg es-1 
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alesis monitor ones, are awsome.  they come non pwered, and powered, and are 
different in price.  as for a mixer, i am not sure how many channel it is, 
cause i dont have one, but if you can find the korg mixer with the kaos pad on 
it, those are mad fun for turntables and live equip!

I don't like the yamaha digital mixer series. The preamps and DAC are mediocre at best, at least in the 01V - 03V line. Even when A/Bing it with my mackie, there was no question which sounded better; I put mine up for sale the next day. 


bIz

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jacob Talkington 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 5:57 AM
  Subject: [xl7] Re: mixer and monitor


    Yamaha has a good reputation for mixers as well, and the MG10/2 
  arrives soon. I'll post a review on it once mine arrives, but it's a 
  10-channel mixer with EQ for ~$100. Hard to beat that if it sounds 
  decent!

  /.j


  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "biz" <biz@g...> wrote:
  > Welcome to the wonderful world of gear aquisition...
  > 
  > What's your budget? What, no limit did you say?
  > 
  > http://www.speck.com/xmix_2.shtml
  > http://www.genelec.com/products/1037c/1037c.php
  > 
  > Alternately, you could get a behringer line mixer for $100...
  > 
  > Speakers are a sliding scale, and you usually >do< get what you 
  pay for. 
  > 
  > bIz
  > 
  > ------------
  > http://www.groovetronica.com - "Well, it hasn't made it into our 
  playlist, I'm afraid. It's summer so there are no djs here to listen 
  to and play stuff, so we're just playing automated music right now."
  > ------------
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  >   Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:02 PM
  >   Subject: [xl7] mixer and monitor
  > 
  > 
  >   looking for a mixer and some monitors to hook my xl-7, korg es-1 
  and my 
  >   turntables up too just wondering if anyone has any suggestions
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On Fri, 30 May 2003 14:38:08 +0000, you wrote:

>alesis monitor ones, are awsome.  

hmm...I was glad to get rid of mine :)
Very bad for ear fatigue.
Do ur self a favour and get a set of tannoy's.

System 600's or Reveals

Silverman

passive reveals are cheap and with a good sound
must be put close to you though

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  Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] mixer and monitor


  On Fri, 30 May 2003 14:38:08 +0000, you wrote:

  >alesis monitor ones, are awsome.  

  hmm...I was glad to get rid of mine :)
  Very bad for ear fatigue.
  Do ur self a favour and get a set of tannoy's.

  System 600's or Reveals

  Silverman

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what about some NS 10's

>>> guilt23@... 05/30/03 03:34PM >>>
passive reveals are cheap and with a good sound
must be put close to you though

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  Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] mixer and monitor


  On Fri, 30 May 2003 14:38:08 +0000, you wrote:

  >alesis monitor ones, are awsome.  

  hmm...I was glad to get rid of mine :)
  Very bad for ear fatigue.
  Do ur self a favour and get a set of tannoy's.

  System 600's or Reveals

  Silverman

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>Wow, you have expensive tastes. That is the coolest little mixer I
>have seen. It's a shame that I would have to sell my car to afford
>it.

Champagne tastes maybe, but the same beer budget as everyone else - I'm
using mackies and behringers right now. I just use spdif, a patch bay and/or
my outboard pres during mixdown.

>
>I too am dissapointed in my Yamaha digital mixer (promix 01). I
>later picked up an old Hill 4-bus that was cheaper (used), sounds
>better and dosen't keep coming up with dead channels. My friends
>have had reliability issues with low end Mackie desks.

Yes, my yamaha got it's share of shop time before I ditched it. Dead
channels, dead LCD, and a crashed ROM.

I have yet to use or even know of a mackie that didn't die at one point. My
friend's caught fire in his living room. My promoter's died during the break
in a set, and they had to borrow one of the bands mixers to finish. Good
thing their customer service is so good.

Right now, I have two 16xx series for my main rig at work - one is always in
the shop, while the other is in the rig. I rarely have both of them at a
time. Right now, one is off having the VU meters fixed -  a relatively
cosmetic issue for once. I'm starting to feel uncomfortable about using
them.

> I have been
>discouraged from looking at them ever since. The Allen & Heath mix-
>wizard series seem to be the best built under $1000 and I have had
>only good experiences with thier bigger GL series mixers.
>
>
>On the monitor front, nothing beats Dynaudio for me. Event has the
>best reputation for less expensive monitors among my friends.
>Genelec (noted for good imaging) and Mackie (noted for a big bottom
>end) monitors are also well respected.

I was about to buy a pair of 824s, when a friend told me that their bottom
end left a lot to be desired, and he constantly found himself mixing bass
heavy as a result. My own experience with them on music has been limited -
I've used them for a lot of voice overs and editing but little critical
music work. Unfortunately, I don't have a pair I can check out any more, but
they really will show you all the things wrong with your mix.

> It is a rather personal
>decision so pick a quiet Tuesday afternoon to audition the things at
>a music store.

I'd recomend auditioning the same speakers in more than one store if you
can.

bIz

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Holiday Inn lounge singer hardly wows me technically or talent wise, and I
could do better with a cassette deck and a microphone."
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From: Ezra Gold
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: mixer and monitor


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "biz" <biz@g...> wrote:
> Welcome to the wonderful world of gear aquisition...
>
> What's your budget? What, no limit did you say?
>
> http://www.speck.com/xmix_2.shtml
> http://www.genelec.com/products/1037c/1037c.php
>
> Alternately, you could get a behringer line mixer for $100...
>
> Speakers are a sliding scale, and you usually >do< get what you
pay for.
>
> bIz
>
Wow, you have expensive tastes. That is the coolest little mixer I
have seen. It's a shame that I would have to sell my car to afford
it.

I too am dissapointed in my Yamaha digital mixer (promix 01). I
later picked up an old Hill 4-bus that was cheaper (used), sounds
better and dosen't keep coming up with dead channels. My friends
have had reliability issues with low end Mackie desks. I have been
discouraged from looking at them ever since. The Allen & Heath mix-
wizard series seem to be the best built under $1000 and I have had
only good experiences with thier bigger GL series mixers.

On the monitor front, nothing beats Dynaudio for me. Event has the
best reputation for less expensive monitors among my friends.
Genelec (noted for good imaging) and Mackie (noted for a big bottom
end) monitors are also well respected. It is a rather personal
decision so pick a quiet Tuesday afternoon to audition the things at
a music store.

--Ezra


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Hi all (bit of a newbie on this group)

If you can still find it (it's been discontinued, but still seems to 
be in a lot of shops, at least here in the UK) then the Mackie LM3204 
does a similar job to the Speck, for about a quarter of the price! 
Gorgeous little mixer... I'm looking to get one in the next few weeks.

Personally, I use Soundcraft Spirit mixers, which are great, although 
the band I was in had a few Behringers, which were OK for live use 
(bit noisy for recording). Then again, I think Spirit mixers are a 
lot cheaper in the UK than they are in the US, relatively speaking at 
least.

For monitors, best decent priced ones I've heard are the Mackie 
HR624's... I don't like the Alesis ones either. Tannoy Reveal are OK, 
as are Behringer Truth. Sorry, I don't know much about passive 
monitors, I've not used any for a long while.

Martin

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Ezra Gold" <ezra_gold@y...> wrote:
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "biz" <biz@g...> wrote:
> > Welcome to the wonderful world of gear aquisition...
> > 
> > What's your budget? What, no limit did you say?
> > 
> > http://www.speck.com/xmix_2.shtml
> > http://www.genelec.com/products/1037c/1037c.php
> > 
> > Alternately, you could get a behringer line mixer for $100...
> > 
> > Speakers are a sliding scale, and you usually >do< get what you 
> pay for. 
> > 
> > bIz
> > 
> Wow, you have expensive tastes. That is the coolest little mixer I 
> have seen. It's a shame that I would have to sell my car to afford 
> it.
> 
> I too am dissapointed in my Yamaha digital mixer (promix 01). I 
> later picked up an old Hill 4-bus that was cheaper (used), sounds 
> better and dosen't keep coming up with dead channels. My friends 
> have had reliability issues with low end Mackie desks. I have been 
> discouraged from looking at them ever since. The Allen & Heath mix-
> wizard series seem to be the best built under $1000 and I have had 
> only good experiences with thier bigger GL series mixers.
> 
> On the monitor front, nothing beats Dynaudio for me. Event has the 
> best reputation for less expensive monitors among my friends. 
> Genelec (noted for good imaging) and Mackie (noted for a big bottom 
> end) monitors are also well respected. It is a rather personal 
> decision so pick a quiet Tuesday afternoon to audition the things 
at 

> a music store. 
> 
> --Ezra

i agree. i have a pair of tannoy reveal passives powered by a GLi
amp, 
and i've been very happy considering how much i paid. i use them for 
monitoring lots of different kinds of music, and they do pretty well
with 
most things. however, for dance/club music a subwoofer is a must. i'm 
budgeting for one now.

i had my reveals modified by an audio guru in watertown, 
massachusetts, who did wonders for them. he does all kinds of custom 
mod's, is slightly crazy, and really knows his stuff. email me
directly if you 
live in that area and are interested in checking him out.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "guilt" <guilt23@c...> wrote:

> passive reveals are cheap and with a good sound
> must be put close to you though
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Silverman 
>   To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:12 PM
>   Subject: Re: [xl7] mixer and monitor
> 
>

if you can offer mackies, watch the dynaudio bm6a

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  Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 5:08 PM
  Subject: [xl7] Re: mixer and monitor


  >   On Fri, 30 May 2003 14:38:08 +0000, you wrote:
  > 
  >   >alesis monitor ones, are awsome.  
  > 
  >   hmm...I was glad to get rid of mine :)
  >   Very bad for ear fatigue.
  >   Do ur self a favour and get a set of tannoy's.
  > 

  i agree, very glad to get rid of my moniter ones.  mackie hr824s
  are nice once you get used to them.


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I've seen the term "ear" or "listening" fatigue when referring to monitors.  I am not exactly sure what this is.  Can someone explain? Thanks.
 


Cornell

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You start to lose objectivity while listening, it gets hard to tell if 
parts are quieter or louder, etc.  You're focusing on parts so much but 
it's not helping.  Kinda hard to explain...

rEalm






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I've seen the term "ear" or "listening" fatigue when referring to 
monitors.  I am not exactly sure what this is.  Can someone explain? 
Thanks.
 


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