Xpantastic!

Hi PeWe,

Brian Auger is awsome!!!! 
I actually got some pretty close B3 on the 
M12 by layering 3 voices to get up to 5 oscillators(drawbars) 
and 1 osc for perc. Once when I was working on a Lesie I plugged the 
12 in to it - pretty nice sounding.    
BTW The best Leslie sim I have found is in the cheap Lexicon MPX110.

The ramp-down time of a Leslie is controlled by an RC network with 
some wide tolerances in the components like 20% for the cap and 5%
for the resistor. This can put the timing all over the place. 

I don't take my M12 out anymore. I keep having this re-occuring 
nightmare where a drunk guitarist spills his box of wine on it.
So I got the virus cause it can come close. It really dosen't have 
the headroom for the massive layered patches, so you have to set all 
the levels very carefully. If not, you get this horible digital 
distortion. 
 
Yeah, I have moved some patches between my M1000 and M12 and mostly 
they translate pretty well. Except the glide on the M1000/M6 has all 
kinds of issues. The M1000 works better, but still not as fast as the 
M12.  

Am I reading these posts wrong? I thought your name is also Karl so I 
just added the II to diferentiate. Sorry no royalty in my family,
but it would be nice to get hold of an VCS3.

Karl the lowborn

--- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, PeWe <ha-pewe@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, the Leslie sims w/ all clones are somewhat different,- in the 
case 
> of the C1 compared to a real Leslie, the speeding down of the low 
rotor 
> is too fast w/ the C1. But we should have in mind, every Leslie 
cabinet 
> is different too because of it´s mechanical tolerances as also age 
of 
> mechanical and electrical parts and quality of maintenance over the 
time.
> It´s OT here anyway, but for me, the C1 has some advantages over 
the 
> XK3c ( which sounds amazing btw),- it´s the price for a dual 
waterfall 
> keyboard organ compared to a single keyboard organ,- and the size 
and 
> weight = portability.
> Depending on the leslie sim, I don´t care too much,- I´m a big 
Brian 
> Auger fan since my age of 17 ( oh it was 1972...) and I love a 
straight 
> Hammond sound w/ 2nd perc/soft, chorus C3 and overdriven.
> 
> Depending on the Matrix 6/Matrix 1000,- I have one in addition to 
the 
> Xpander,- and I put the sounds I want into the 1st RAM-bank and 
that´s 
> it then. It´s a good toy for doing layers w/ other tone generators, 
FM p.ex.
> Matrix 1000 as also Xpander/Matrix12 aren´t synths w/ fast 
attack>fast 
> envelopes, - so they blend well w/ DX/TX sounds.
> 
> B.t.w.,- I also have the "Xpander Bankloader" including all the 
Matrix 
> 1000 banks/preset sounds programmed for the Xpander.
> 
> Yep, the shared sonic aspect is the aliasing,- all three have it ( 
the 
> Electro also w/ synth sounds ), - no wonder, it´s digital.
> 
> Karl, you sign w/ the name of an english king (1630-1685),- I hope 
you 
> own and perform on british synths too,- maybe OSCAR ...
> 
> :-)))
> 
> 
> Karl schrieb:
> >
> > Hi PeWe,
> > You know I looked at the C1 but like all synth co's they did not
> > stagger the keyboard like a real organ. This is a big deal to me.
> > I also like to actually play the instrument and this is a clumsy
> > way of doing things. Also the Lesli simulation is just not swishy
> > enough compared to the real thing.
> >
> > I bought the little clasic virus because it has it's roots in the
> > matrix 6. ACCESS actually made a realtime programmer for the M1000
> > for it's first product. The biggest problem with it is, not enough
> > MOD slots, and like the M1000 it takes forever to find the sound 
you
> > want.
> >
> > BTW I notice all my DSP based keys: ELCTRO 73, Virus, and V-Synth
> > have a rubbery kind of quality to the sound. Not that they all 
sound
> > the same but they all share some sonic aspects.
> >
> > Karl II
> >
> > .
> >
> >
>