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Re: [xpantastic] Re: VFD help

2008-08-09 by PeWe

Hi Karl !

Well, up to now I do organ sounds w/ synths too and use a Chandler Tube Driver 19", Rocktron300A compressor and Dynacord DLS 223 ( upgraded to DLS300) for overdrive and Leslie sim. It´s not comparable to any original Hammond/Leslie setup, but pretty small and agressive. I also had a Dynacord CLS222 in the past as also a Korg CX3 ...

Because I´m a keyboardist and not a traditonal piano player, I ever liked to tweak and program w/ resulting in a more personel sound, not immitating natural instruments to a perfection.
Joe Zawinul did impressing string arrangements w/ unperfect synthesized string sounds of SCI Prophets as also did Lyle Mays w/ Pat Metheny. So,- the voicing makes the music, not the instrument itself.

For the future :
Be careful w/ that posing fools,- no serious musician is drunk on stage and carries his drinks around between all the gear.
For the very stupid ones don´t miss to put white gaffer tape strips - "No Drinks On Gear"- on every rack, console and so on ..., hire a husky personel tech/crewguy to watch over your gear or break the posers guitar-neck and annonce to discuss about his own neck later.

Hmmm, the Virus TI keyboard,- it´s so good looking, has wheels (!!!), has a very functional and clear layout of the panel and has so much great features,- I often had in mind "that´s it" ...
But w/ all these hi-polyphony modern DSP machines it is the same,- switch off the FX and layers and you´ll be disappointed by the tone.
The disappointment w/ a tone for me just starts if a synth has DCOs instead of VCOs, so I had this happen also w/ a Jupiter 6, Prophet600 and I´m also slightly disappointed w/ the tone of a Matrix 6 or 1000,- these are additional toys for me and a MKS70, which has DCOs too, for me is a great pad synth only, but this is what this machine does perfect.

I have exactly 3 synths which don´t need any layering,- Minimoog, Xpander and MKS80 w/ Curtis CEM,- just put a little room on ´em and you go for leads, sidelines and pads. Keep ´em dry for the basses.
Polyphony:
Every serious musician w/ music theory background knows you can demonstrate each existing chord w/ 4 voices only,- this is how a string quartet works and why Oberheim 4-Voice synths w/ SEMs worked pretty well in the past. So,- w/ a great sounding instrument, you´ll never need 128 voices at all.

Hi polyphony is neccessary if someone needs to get all of the sounds, he needs for a performance of one tune, out of one machine simultaneously.
O.k., there might be players who need that, but then it must be a machine with great headroom because 128 voices are significantly louder than 6, 8, 12, 16 or 64 maybe ...

Next prob which comes up w/ all these complex hi polyphony, multi layering, insert FX, global FX, mastering FX machines is:
Switching these complex performance patches fast during a live performance and within tunes without cutting FX and voices,- impossible. All promise, no satisfies.

Depending on sound quality of digital instruments, there are more problems,- p.ex. the multiplexing regarding master outputs and add. single outputs,- most instruments have no separate DACs for the single outs. Remember the AKAI samplers, only a S1100 has separate Burr Brown DACs for it´s single outputs each.

Or a limit to 16Bits/44.1k, which might be satisfying w/ only one patch but not w/ a layer of 4 or 8 patches where all the patches in a split/layer configuration have to part the 16 available bits which reduces headroom for each patch dramatically.

Regarding my name,- no I´m not Karl. PeWe is my regular nickname in real life, not only for the mails.
But there were mails mixed up here before ...

EMS VCS3,- if you probably are a NI Reaktor user,- you´ll find it in the NI Reaktor user library for free and w/ great functionality.
It´s called "synth in a case" (SIAC) there ...

Peter the Gun


Karl schrieb:

Hi PeWe,

Brian Auger is awsome!!!!
I actually got some pretty close B3 on the
M12 by layering
BTW The best Leslie sim I have found is in the cheap Lexicon MPX110.

a drunk guitarist spills his box of wine on it.
the virus really dosen't have
the headroom for the massive layered patches

Am I reading these posts wrong? I thought your name is also Karl so I
just added the II to diferentiate. it would be nice to get hold of an VCS3.

Karl the lowborn











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