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Intro and questions

2011-08-04 by sonofprent

Hello, finally got hold of an xpander last week, absolutely love it. Some of my first sounds out of it here: http://soundcloud.com/t1b/sets/xpander/

Im not really a vintage chap but I make exception for the XP, always amazes me that no-one has ever really topped it in the 25 years it has been out. I guess the andromeda came close but since its not a desktop synth and looks like a mid 90's car stereo Im ruling it out.

Anyway, Ive a few questions:

CEM's- anyone know of anywhere with a few spare VCO and filter chips. Is that all I should be stocking up on or is there anything else prone to faliure?

OS- Im not on the most recent OS (think Im on 1.0 and 1.2), everything is running perfect so Im tempted to leave as is- is there anything Im missing out on by not upgrading? Was it just a bug fix upgrade?

Manual: I have a PDF I can print though I was wondering if anywhere stocks printed & bound manuals?

Cheers,

Andy/tIB/sonofprent

Re: Intro and questions

2011-08-04 by blchrr@homecall.co.uk

Nice demos there Andy.
The CEM chips labels are 3374 for the dual vco and 3372 for the vcf chip, i 
think you will be able to find the 3372 filter chips quite easily on ebay, 
but the dual vco chip is harder to find- i think they do pop up on ebay from 
time to time, but i think thats going to be your best bet for those, also 
check some of the vintage parts suppliers:
www.synthparts.com
http://www.vintageplanet.nl/
I just checked and synthparts have them in stock, they also have the HS3140C 
dac in stock which is another hard to find part.. 

My tech buddy built some replacement display boards for the xpander, check 
it out:
http://www.lenham.clara.net/sound/xpander.html 

Hope that helps! 
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> Hello, finally got hold of an xpander last week, absolutely love it. Some of my first sounds out of it here: http://soundcloud.com/t1b/sets/xpander/ 
> 
> Im not really a vintage chap but I make exception for the XP, always amazes me that no-one has ever really topped it in the 25 years it has been out. I guess the andromeda came close but since its not a desktop synth and looks like a mid 90's car stereo Im ruling it out. 
> 
> Anyway, Ive a few questions: 
> 
> CEM's- anyone know of anywhere with a few spare VCO and filter chips. Is that all I should be stocking up on or is there anything else prone to faliure? 
> 
> OS- Im not on the most recent OS (think Im on 1.0 and 1.2), everything is running perfect so Im tempted to leave as is- is there anything Im missing out on by not upgrading? Was it just a bug fix upgrade? 
> 
> Manual: I have a PDF I can print though I was wondering if anywhere stocks printed & bound manuals? 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Andy/tIB/sonofprent 
> 
>

Re: Intro and questions

2011-08-04 by sonofprent

Hey, Thanks for that, Ive spoken to a couple of those people already funnily enough (benden and synthparts. You think the DAC is worth having a spare one of too then? Is there one of those inside or 6 do you know?
The guy who teched mine didnt think Id have a problem with the screens, think its been in storage for a long while- they are very bright and have no fading anywhere. I might grab one of the benden ones on the next run just in case, its great that he did that. :) Be nice if someone mass produced another run of CEMs just to future proof  us but I cant see that happening. 

--- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, blchrr@... wrote:
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>
> Nice demos there Andy.
> The CEM chips labels are 3374 for the dual vco and 3372 for the vcf chip, i 
> think you will be able to find the 3372 filter chips quite easily on ebay, 
> but the dual vco chip is harder to find- i think they do pop up on ebay from 
> time to time, but i think thats going to be your best bet for those, also 
> check some of the vintage parts suppliers:
> www.synthparts.com
> http://www.vintageplanet.nl/
> I just checked and synthparts have them in stock, they also have the HS3140C 
> dac in stock which is another hard to find part.. 
> 
> My tech buddy built some replacement display boards for the xpander, check 
> it out:
> http://www.lenham.clara.net/sound/xpander.html 
> 
> Hope that helps! 
> 
> 
> > Hello, finally got hold of an xpander last week, absolutely love it. Some of my first sounds out of it here: http://soundcloud.com/t1b/sets/xpander/ 
> > 
> > Im not really a vintage chap but I make exception for the XP, always amazes me that no-one has ever really topped it in the 25 years it has been out. I guess the andromeda came close but since its not a desktop synth and looks like a mid 90's car stereo Im ruling it out. 
> > 
> > Anyway, Ive a few questions: 
> > 
> > CEM's- anyone know of anywhere with a few spare VCO and filter chips. Is that all I should be stocking up on or is there anything else prone to faliure? 
> > 
> > OS- Im not on the most recent OS (think Im on 1.0 and 1.2), everything is running perfect so Im tempted to leave as is- is there anything Im missing out on by not upgrading? Was it just a bug fix upgrade? 
> > 
> > Manual: I have a PDF I can print though I was wondering if anywhere stocks printed & bound manuals? 
> > 
> > Cheers, 
> > 
> > Andy/tIB/sonofprent 
> > 
> >
>

Re: Intro and questions

2011-08-04 by blchrr@homecall.co.uk

Hi there, just the one DAC in the Xpander- i dont think you have to have one 
for spares, but they seem to be a hard to find part, so if you want to get 
one as a precaution then it might be a good idea, i grabbed a couple when a 
saw a few nos going fairly cheap a few years back.
Yes- the vfd screens are great on the replacement display board, my unit was 
the test machine for that, i have the first unit installed in mine and its 
great, not had any problems at all, my old screens were dim and failing 
otherwise i wouldnt have bothered either- but they are great and i think its 
good value for money, steve (@ benden sound) has been repairing and 
modifying my gear (when he has the spare time- not his main line of work) 
for about 5 years or so- hes a really good guy.
Regarding the cems, i cant see any more being made unfortunately, its 
definately a good idea to have a few for spares, especially as they are 
getting harder to find. I could do with a few 3340's and 3360's myself, just 
a couple of each as spares for my JP6 and 101. 
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> Hey, Thanks for that, Ive spoken to a couple of those people already funnily enough (benden and synthparts. You think the DAC is worth having a spare one of too then? Is there one of those inside or 6 do you know?
> The guy who teched mine didnt think Id have a problem with the screens, think its been in storage for a long while- they are very bright and have no fading anywhere. I might grab one of the benden ones on the next run just in case, its great that he did that. :) Be nice if someone mass produced another run of CEMs just to future proof  us but I cant see that happening.  
> 
> --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, blchrr@... wrote:
>>
>> Nice demos there Andy.
>> The CEM chips labels are 3374 for the dual vco and 3372 for the vcf chip, i 
>> think you will be able to find the 3372 filter chips quite easily on ebay, 
>> but the dual vco chip is harder to find- i think they do pop up on ebay from 
>> time to time, but i think thats going to be your best bet for those, also 
>> check some of the vintage parts suppliers:
>> www.synthparts.com
>> http://www.vintageplanet.nl/
>> I just checked and synthparts have them in stock, they also have the HS3140C 
>> dac in stock which is another hard to find part..  
>> 
>> My tech buddy built some replacement display boards for the xpander, check 
>> it out:
>> http://www.lenham.clara.net/sound/xpander.html  
>> 
>> Hope that helps!  
>> 
>> 
>> > Hello, finally got hold of an xpander last week, absolutely love it. Some of my first sounds out of it here: http://soundcloud.com/t1b/sets/xpander/ 
>> > 
>> > Im not really a vintage chap but I make exception for the XP, always amazes me that no-one has ever really topped it in the 25 years it has been out. I guess the andromeda came close but since its not a desktop synth and looks like a mid 90's car stereo Im ruling it out. 
>> > 
>> > Anyway, Ive a few questions: 
>> > 
>> > CEM's- anyone know of anywhere with a few spare VCO and filter chips. Is that all I should be stocking up on or is there anything else prone to faliure? 
>> > 
>> > OS- Im not on the most recent OS (think Im on 1.0 and 1.2), everything is running perfect so Im tempted to leave as is- is there anything Im missing out on by not upgrading? Was it just a bug fix upgrade? 
>> > 
>> > Manual: I have a PDF I can print though I was wondering if anywhere stocks printed & bound manuals? 
>> > 
>> > Cheers, 
>> > 
>> > Andy/tIB/sonofprent 
>> > 
>> > 
>>
>  
>

Re: [xpantastic] Intro and questions

2011-08-04 by Karl Schmeer

Hello Andy,

Great Sounds BTW.  You didn't waste anytime gettin deep into the programming.

You might want to get the backup battery for the memory replaced. It is still 
available, 

but is a lithium type, and these are getting harder to ship around by air.
Although my original is still doing fine after 30 + years. 

The largest fail by far are the coupling caps on the voice board. There are 
several of these for
each voice. However they are inexpensive and readily available from most 
electronic supply houses.

Best Regards

Karl




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From: sonofprent <sonofprent@...>
To: xpantastic@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 4:25:56 AM
Subject: [xpantastic] Intro and questions

  
Hello, finally got hold of an xpander last week, absolutely love it. Some of my 
first sounds out of it here: http://soundcloud.com/t1b/sets/xpander/

Im not really a vintage chap but I make exception for the XP, always amazes me 
that no-one has ever really topped it in the 25 years it has been out. I guess 
the andromeda came close but since its not a desktop synth and looks like a mid 
90's car stereo Im ruling it out.

Anyway, Ive a few questions:

CEM's- anyone know of anywhere with a few spare VCO and filter chips. Is that 
all I should be stocking up on or is there anything else prone to faliure?

OS- Im not on the most recent OS (think Im on 1.0 and 1.2), everything is 
running perfect so Im tempted to leave as is- is there anything Im missing out 
on by not upgrading? Was it just a bug fix upgrade?

Manual: I have a PDF I can print though I was wondering if anywhere stocks 
printed & bound manuals?

Cheers,

Andy/tIB/sonofprent

Re: Intro and questions

2011-08-04 by andy

Might leave off the DAC for now, though since there is only one in it I may be better off just going for it... 

cheers for the screen tip, mine is showing no signs of age atm but I may well grab a spare when he does the next batch. In a roundabout way your tech guy pushed me over the edge for buying an Xpander- it was always the potential for screen failure that put me off in the past, once I found out they were avaliable again I was straight in!

So steve does mods as well then... maybe Ill hit him up with something- Ive an old akai wind synth (think its CEM3394 based) that I wanted to mod for CV inputs- theres a micropro involved though so it may be over my head. Maybe Ill give him a shout sometime. 

Cheers,

A

--- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, blchrr@... wrote:
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>
> Hi there, just the one DAC in the Xpander- i dont think you have to have one 
> for spares, but they seem to be a hard to find part, so if you want to get 
> one as a precaution then it might be a good idea, i grabbed a couple when a 
> saw a few nos going fairly cheap a few years back.
> Yes- the vfd screens are great on the replacement display board, my unit was 
> the test machine for that, i have the first unit installed in mine and its 
> great, not had any problems at all, my old screens were dim and failing 
> otherwise i wouldnt have bothered either- but they are great and i think its 
> good value for money, steve (@ benden sound) has been repairing and 
> modifying my gear (when he has the spare time- not his main line of work) 
> for about 5 years or so- hes a really good guy.
> Regarding the cems, i cant see any more being made unfortunately, its 
> definately a good idea to have a few for spares, especially as they are 
> getting harder to find. I could do with a few 3340's and 3360's myself, just 
> a couple of each as spares for my JP6 and 101. 
> 
> > Hey, Thanks for that, Ive spoken to a couple of those people already funnily enough (benden and synthparts. You think the DAC is worth having a spare one of too then? Is there one of those inside or 6 do you know?
> > The guy who teched mine didnt think Id have a problem with the screens, think its been in storage for a long while- they are very bright and have no fading anywhere. I might grab one of the benden ones on the next run just in case, its great that he did that. :) Be nice if someone mass produced another run of CEMs just to future proof  us but I cant see that happening.  
> > 
> > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, blchrr@ wrote:
> >>
> >> Nice demos there Andy.
> >> The CEM chips labels are 3374 for the dual vco and 3372 for the vcf chip, i 
> >> think you will be able to find the 3372 filter chips quite easily on ebay, 
> >> but the dual vco chip is harder to find- i think they do pop up on ebay from 
> >> time to time, but i think thats going to be your best bet for those, also 
> >> check some of the vintage parts suppliers:
> >> www.synthparts.com
> >> http://www.vintageplanet.nl/
> >> I just checked and synthparts have them in stock, they also have the HS3140C 
> >> dac in stock which is another hard to find part..  
> >> 
> >> My tech buddy built some replacement display boards for the xpander, check 
> >> it out:
> >> http://www.lenham.clara.net/sound/xpander.html  
> >> 
> >> Hope that helps!  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Hello, finally got hold of an xpander last week, absolutely love it. Some of my first sounds out of it here: http://soundcloud.com/t1b/sets/xpander/ 
> >> > 
> >> > Im not really a vintage chap but I make exception for the XP, always amazes me that no-one has ever really topped it in the 25 years it has been out. I guess the andromeda came close but since its not a desktop synth and looks like a mid 90's car stereo Im ruling it out. 
> >> > 
> >> > Anyway, Ive a few questions: 
> >> > 
> >> > CEM's- anyone know of anywhere with a few spare VCO and filter chips. Is that all I should be stocking up on or is there anything else prone to faliure? 
> >> > 
> >> > OS- Im not on the most recent OS (think Im on 1.0 and 1.2), everything is running perfect so Im tempted to leave as is- is there anything Im missing out on by not upgrading? Was it just a bug fix upgrade? 
> >> > 
> >> > Manual: I have a PDF I can print though I was wondering if anywhere stocks printed & bound manuals? 
> >> > 
> >> > Cheers, 
> >> > 
> >> > Andy/tIB/sonofprent 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >>
> >  
> >
>

Re: Intro and questions

2011-08-04 by andy

'Great Sounds BTW.  You didn't waste anytime gettin deep into the programming.'

Heh, thanks Karl- I use a modular setup too so the xpander feels like home already. Incredible interace on this thing, its probably the only thing Ive ever felt more at home with than a monomachine. Speaking of which- check my new school meets old school matrix 12: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sonofprent/5976031318/

!!!

The PSU hasnt had the caps done though the my tech guy said not to worry too much since they dont take anything with them when they go (from his experience). Ill have to check if the battery has been done, didnt ask that. 

Thanks for the tips. :)

A

--- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, Karl Schmeer <shire03@...> wrote:
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>
> Hello Andy,
> 
> Great Sounds BTW.  You didn't waste anytime gettin deep into the programming.
> 
> You might want to get the backup battery for the memory replaced. It is still 
> available, 
> 
> but is a lithium type, and these are getting harder to ship around by air.
> Although my original is still doing fine after 30 + years. 
> 
> The largest fail by far are the coupling caps on the voice board. There are 
> several of these for
> each voice. However they are inexpensive and readily available from most 
> electronic supply houses.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Karl
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: sonofprent <sonofprent@...>
> To: xpantastic@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 4:25:56 AM
> Subject: [xpantastic] Intro and questions
> 
> Â  
> Hello, finally got hold of an xpander last week, absolutely love it. Some of my 
> first sounds out of it here: http://soundcloud.com/t1b/sets/xpander/
> 
> Im not really a vintage chap but I make exception for the XP, always amazes me 
> that no-one has ever really topped it in the 25 years it has been out. I guess 
> the andromeda came close but since its not a desktop synth and looks like a mid 
> 90's car stereo Im ruling it out.
> 
> Anyway, Ive a few questions:
> 
> CEM's- anyone know of anywhere with a few spare VCO and filter chips. Is that 
> all I should be stocking up on or is there anything else prone to faliure?
> 
> OS- Im not on the most recent OS (think Im on 1.0 and 1.2), everything is 
> running perfect so Im tempted to leave as is- is there anything Im missing out 
> on by not upgrading? Was it just a bug fix upgrade?
> 
> Manual: I have a PDF I can print though I was wondering if anywhere stocks 
> printed & bound manuals?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andy/tIB/sonofprent
>

Re: Intro and questions

2011-08-06 by synthparts

I do have 2 Xpander DACs left in stock and the 3372s. I also have a few 3340s and 3360s if you need them Rob. I am out of 3374s and beware that the ones on ebay from that Chinese seller are fakes (surface mount 8-pin chip not aat all related to CEMs). Doug, synthparts.com

--- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, blchrr@... wrote:
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>
> Hi there, just the one DAC in the Xpander- i dont think you have to have one 
> for spares, but they seem to be a hard to find part, so if you want to get 
> one as a precaution then it might be a good idea, i grabbed a couple when a 
> saw a few nos going fairly cheap a few years back.
> Yes- the vfd screens are great on the replacement display board, my unit was 
> the test machine for that, i have the first unit installed in mine and its 
> great, not had any problems at all, my old screens were dim and failing 
> otherwise i wouldnt have bothered either- but they are great and i think its 
> good value for money, steve (@ benden sound) has been repairing and 
> modifying my gear (when he has the spare time- not his main line of work) 
> for about 5 years or so- hes a really good guy.
> Regarding the cems, i cant see any more being made unfortunately, its 
> definately a good idea to have a few for spares, especially as they are 
> getting harder to find. I could do with a few 3340's and 3360's myself, just 
> a couple of each as spares for my JP6 and 101. 
> 
> > Hey, Thanks for that, Ive spoken to a couple of those people already funnily enough (benden and synthparts. You think the DAC is worth having a spare one of too then? Is there one of those inside or 6 do you know?
> > The guy who teched mine didnt think Id have a problem with the screens, think its been in storage for a long while- they are very bright and have no fading anywhere. I might grab one of the benden ones on the next run just in case, its great that he did that. :) Be nice if someone mass produced another run of CEMs just to future proof  us but I cant see that happening.  
> > 
> > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, blchrr@ wrote:
> >>
> >> Nice demos there Andy.
> >> The CEM chips labels are 3374 for the dual vco and 3372 for the vcf chip, i 
> >> think you will be able to find the 3372 filter chips quite easily on ebay, 
> >> but the dual vco chip is harder to find- i think they do pop up on ebay from 
> >> time to time, but i think thats going to be your best bet for those, also 
> >> check some of the vintage parts suppliers:
> >> www.synthparts.com
> >> http://www.vintageplanet.nl/
> >> I just checked and synthparts have them in stock, they also have the HS3140C 
> >> dac in stock which is another hard to find part..  
> >> 
> >> My tech buddy built some replacement display boards for the xpander, check 
> >> it out:
> >> http://www.lenham.clara.net/sound/xpander.html  
> >> 
> >> Hope that helps!  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Hello, finally got hold of an xpander last week, absolutely love it. Some of my first sounds out of it here: http://soundcloud.com/t1b/sets/xpander/ 
> >> > 
> >> > Im not really a vintage chap but I make exception for the XP, always amazes me that no-one has ever really topped it in the 25 years it has been out. I guess the andromeda came close but since its not a desktop synth and looks like a mid 90's car stereo Im ruling it out. 
> >> > 
> >> > Anyway, Ive a few questions: 
> >> > 
> >> > CEM's- anyone know of anywhere with a few spare VCO and filter chips. Is that all I should be stocking up on or is there anything else prone to faliure? 
> >> > 
> >> > OS- Im not on the most recent OS (think Im on 1.0 and 1.2), everything is running perfect so Im tempted to leave as is- is there anything Im missing out on by not upgrading? Was it just a bug fix upgrade? 
> >> > 
> >> > Manual: I have a PDF I can print though I was wondering if anywhere stocks printed & bound manuals? 
> >> > 
> >> > Cheers, 
> >> > 
> >> > Andy/tIB/sonofprent 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >>
> >  
> >
>

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