200e

How fast can the 250e be driven through it's 16 stages?
I heard Yasi Perera mention in a video "at audio rates" but how fast an audio rate?

Mine seems to clock accurately at somewhere up to maybe 10 to 20 hz through the 16 steps, then it gets blurry in a sense. The leds begin to do funny things as they attempt to keep up, changing the frequency of the vc has some effects on the results even at the 1 or 3 k range, but it sounds pretty similar if clocked at 200hz.  I don't know the control rate of the 200e in general, btw.


--- On Mon, 9/22/08, onycha.hazel <thomas.buckler@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: onycha.hazel <thomas.buckler@gmail.com>
> Subject: [200e] 250e question.
> To: 200e@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 1:40 PM
> How fast can the 250e be driven through it's 16 stages?
> I heard Yasi Perera mention in a video "at audio
> rates" but how fast an audio rate?

Hi, I didnt think Id say something like "audio rates", but I finally
watched the video and I obviously did. by way of excuse: I was pretty
out of my mind the whole time at NAMM. the 250e won t go any faster
than Hassler reports without modification.

Im sorry to have spread the earlier misinformation. I will try making
it up somehow. maybe some firmware to make the 250e do fast junk, or
some ridiculous xenakis sieve sequence analysis-resynthesis. been
thinking about GCD alot, actually. anyone want to lend me a copy of
"Seminumerical Methods"?

really sorry,
Yasi Perera

Hi Yasi

I have loved your video at Namm shame about the Thriller music in the 
background...I live in Australia and no where can i see a Buchla to try 
so your vids have really helped me make the purchase, strangely in the 
last month there have been about 15 Buchla 200e vids appear on YouTube :-)

xenakis sieve sequence analysis-resynthesis sounds great :-)

Ross


>
>

I've got that on a shelf if you sincerely need it and are referring  
to the art of comp prog series.

Might have a spare copy of Formalized Music around here too, to  
support the xenakis effort...

On Sep 22, 2008, at 10:33 PM, cyaarsoil wrote:

> Hi, I didnt think Id say something like "audio rates", but I finally
> watched the video and I obviously did. by way of excuse: I was pretty
> out of my mind the whole time at NAMM. the 250e won t go any faster
> than Hassler reports without modification.
>
> Im sorry to have spread the earlier misinformation. I will try making
> it up somehow. maybe some firmware to make the 250e do fast junk, or
> some ridiculous xenakis sieve sequence analysis-resynthesis. been
> thinking about GCD alot, actually. anyone want to lend me a copy of
> "Seminumerical Methods"?
>
> really sorry,
> Yasi Perera
>
>
>

Yasi, for this grandiose an error, I really think you should provide
bothnew firmware ideas
you mentioned.


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Damon,
I got the Xenakis sorted already, and just found I could get the Knuth 
through inter library loan, so I'm set for a while, but thanks for the 
generosity all the same!

will report, but who knows when,
Yasi

i want the upic source so i can port it to the ipod touch.

On Sep 24, 2008, at 3:37 PM, cyaarsoil wrote:

> Damon,
> I got the Xenakis sorted already, and just found I could get the Knuth
> through inter library loan, so I'm set for a while, but thanks for the
> generosity all the same!
>
> will report, but who knows when,
> Yasi
>
>
>

i want wave terrain synthesis implemented into the 200e system.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:41 PM, damon <damon@mac.com> wrote:

>   i want the upic source so i can port it to the ipod touch.
>
>
> On Sep 24, 2008, at 3:37 PM, cyaarsoil wrote:
>
> > Damon,
> > I got the Xenakis sorted already, and just found I could get the Knuth
> > through inter library loan, so I'm set for a while, but thanks for the
> > generosity all the same!
> >
> > will report, but who knows when,
> > Yasi
> >
> >
> >
>
>  
>


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thinking of the wave terrain request I wonder how many requests of
this type can be answered with "how many 250e's do you have?"

seriously though, draw a picture of what you want as clearly as you
can. I'd like to see that. I can't see much yet from requests for
abstract power. not picking on anyone in particular, just had the
feeling to say it finally.. 

If you had alt firmware to send audio through the 259e waveshaping
would you be close enough? (it exists already which is part of why I ask)

do you want arbitrary terrains? a yes here seems to ask many more
questions than it answers.. 

I once made a sort of 2D delay as a way to pass the terrain idea by,
homage to Rich Gold my hero, etc..

will everything eventually be asked for? simulated annealing? 
maybe get a KIM-1.. I've got one and I'm out of money
Yasi

thinking of the wave terrain request I wonder how many requests of
this type can be answered with "how many 250e's do you have?"
-∞ requests of this type could be answered with, "how many 250e's do you
have?

seriously though, draw a picture of what you want as clearly as you
can. I'd like to see that. I can't see much yet from requests for
abstract power. not picking on anyone in particular, just had the
feeling to say it finally..

I want to create these (http://www.csounds.com/jmc/Articles/Wts/surface.gif
)
and orbit them, according to my own will or randomly generated parameters.

If you had alt firmware to send audio through the 259e waveshaping
would you be close enough? (it exists already which is part of why I ask)

No.

do you want arbitrary terrains? a yes here seems to ask many more
questions than it answers..

create my own and randomly generated terrains and orbits.

I once made a sort of 2D delay as a way to pass the terrain idea by,
homage to Rich Gold my hero, etc..

hmm

will everything eventually be asked for? simulated annealing?
maybe get a KIM-1.. I've got one and I'm out of money
Yasi

everything will not eventually be asked for.


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if you sit down and think it through, all wave terrain orbits (using
"orbit" in the math sense, output of a period function) can be
produced by morphing between simple tables, given that you have
sufficient control over the shape of the morph...

check this out from the article...

"A timbral change from brass to clarinet can be implemented with
dynamic waveshaping and other refinements. Some people call this
morphing... Don´t expect too much of this design as it is entirely
empyrical, in fact the effect is too subtle."

"too subtle" ??? aaahhhahahahahaa!

2008/11/17 Thomas Buckler <thomas.buckler@gmail.com>:

> thinking of the wave terrain request I wonder how many requests of
> this type can be answered with "how many 250e's do you have?"
> -∞ requests of this type could be answered with, "how many 250e's do you
> have?
>
> seriously though, draw a picture of what you want as clearly as you
> can. I'd like to see that. I can't see much yet from requests for
> abstract power. not picking on anyone in particular, just had the
> feeling to say it finally..
>
> I want to create these (http://www.csounds.com/jmc/Articles/Wts/surface.gif
> )
> and orbit them, according to my own will or randomly generated parameters.
>
> If you had alt firmware to send audio through the 259e waveshaping
> would you be close enough? (it exists already which is part of why I ask)
>
> No.
>
> do you want arbitrary terrains? a yes here seems to ask many more
> questions than it answers..
>
> create my own and randomly generated terrains and orbits.
>
> I once made a sort of 2D delay as a way to pass the terrain idea by,
> homage to Rich Gold my hero, etc..
>
> hmm
>
> will everything eventually be asked for? simulated annealing?
> maybe get a KIM-1.. I've got one and I'm out of money
> Yasi
>
> everything will not eventually be asked for.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

hey now that's like um an entirely aesthetic opinion mister o.O

On Nov 17, 2008, at 12:47 PM, ezra buchla wrote:
> if you sit down and think it through, all wave terrain orbits (using
> "orbit" in the math sense, output of a period function) can be
> produced by morphing between simple tables, given that you have
> sufficient control over the shape of the morph...
>
> check this out from the article...
>
> "A timbral change from brass to clarinet can be implemented with
> dynamic waveshaping and other refinements. Some people call this
> morphing... Don´t expect too much of this design as it is entirely
> empyrical, in fact the effect is too subtle."
>
> "too subtle" ??? aaahhhahahahahaa!
>