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In a message dated 23/7/02 3:17:15 am, Sayer@... writes:

>Each of the synths has it's own unique sounds. The AN1x is very 
>
>unique and I really like hearing it used in a track. It's a special 
>
>sound. The same goes for the Virus b. It has it's own sound that you 
>
>can often pick out in a mix. They seem to have personalities in the 
>
>same way the vintage analogs did.
>
>
Sorry to burst your little virus bubble but, I really don't like the sound 
that the virus emits- I think this down to it being 24 bit and not 16. There 
is something about the sound of 24 bit I really don't like- and although the 
Virus has all the idiosyncracies's of an analogue (clever bit of programming 
I may point out)- It's way to clean IMO And (like a lot of other 24 bit 
stuff) because of the amount of processing needed to get it to function- the 
sound gets "put in the background"- I know there's now gonna be a load of 
mails telling me what a load of crap I'm talking- but I *REALLY* do believe 
this (I've got a very wide hearing range and I'm the one who always starts 
complaining about hearing ultrasound (bats, intruder detectors, dog whistles 
LOL!)- when everybody else thinks I'm going bonkers!!

I can demonstrate this btw on my Nord (although it's not 24 bit- it gets 
near). Make a simple patch and it sounds pretty damn analogue- add a few 
modules- up to the limit of the DSP and.... hey presto (In fact it's pretty 
similar to that PWM popping sound I mentioned before). Remember when people 
like Philips discovered 1-bit as opposed to 24x Oversampling on CD's??- well 
perhaps there is a better way to physical modelling- and are we (at the 
moment) barking up the wrong tree??

Tom :-)

--- In AN1x-list@y..., terryfunken@a... wrote:
> Sorry to burst your little virus bubble but, I really don't like 
the sound 
> that the virus emits- I think this down to it being 24 bit and not 
16. There 
> is something about the sound of 24 bit I really don't like- and 
although the 
> Virus has all the idiosyncracies's of an analogue (clever bit of 
programming 
> I may point out)- It's way to clean IMO And (like a lot of other 24 
bit 
> stuff) because of the amount of processing needed to get it to 
function- the 
> sound gets "put in the background"- 

Don't worry, my little Virus bubble is not burst...  :-)

I think the Virus does a fabulous job of emulating classic analog 
synth sounds (especially the Minimoog). The sound is clean and can be 
delicate or quite ballsy. I like the clean sound and wish my real 
analogs sounded that clean. It's a lot of work to get them to sound 
as good. 

The Virus also creates a wide range of sounds that a classic analog 
can't touch. Over time, as I've lived with the Virus b, I have grown 
to appreciate it much more. 

I'm curious.... how much time you have had with the Virus to form 
your opinion? Was it in your own studio environment where you can 
rely on the monitoring environment to accurately depict what you are 
hearing? I think it can make a difference on how you perceive any 
synth. When I first got the virus b I thought it was great, but with 
time it has grown beyond that. Maybe I'm just used to it's sound by 
now...

I don't have to worry about the DSP thing. I have enough synths to 
spread the sound chores around. I agree that maxing out a DSP synth 
will result in poorer performance. But, the Virus b is anything but 
background. 

Sayer

In a message dated 23/7/02 2:39:51 pm, Sayer@... writes:

>I think the Virus does a fabulous job of emulating classic analog 
>synth sounds (especially the Minimoog). The sound is clean and can be 
>delicate or quite ballsy. I like the clean sound and wish my real 
>analogs sounded that clean. It's a lot of work to get them to sound 
>as good. 

Sayer,

"Emulating"- that's exactly it!- I think this is one thing that I hate the 
most in a lot of hardware stuff (as well as the sound- and yes we are all 
entitled to our own
opinions ! :-))- The Nord Micro/Modular is about the only hardware synth I 
know of where you can break out of that mold. I think the virus would me more 
exciting if you could program it in a similar fashion. I borrowed a virus for 
2 weeks (my speakers are Alesis Monitor One's btw)- Yes it can 'emulate' a 
minimoog- but then can most synths these days! I just couldn't get on with 
it..........Ahhh- My mate Justin (who runs the Topica Nord Modular list- oh 
i'm such a name dropper hehehe!) gave me this link- this is a very cool synth 
indeed- especially if you are a fan of the SIDstation!

http://www.droid.dk/

Definately worth a listen- a sort of virtual EMS VCS3 (My all-time favourite 
synth!)

Tom :-)

--- In AN1x-list@y..., terryfunken@a... wrote:
> "Emulating"- that's exactly it!- I think this is one thing that I 
hate the 
> most in a lot of hardware stuff (as well as the sound- and yes we 
are all 
> entitled to our own
> opinions ! :-))- The Nord Micro/Modular is about the only hardware 
synth I 
> know of where you can break out of that mold. 

The Nord is a totally different concept, well maybe not since it 
is 'emulating' a modular synth. I wouldn't mind if Access gave it a 
go as a new synth model though.  :-)

Maybe the K-5000, Fizmo and, Microwave XT would fall in the non-
emulation category? (although, I guess the XT is based on the PPG) 

Here's an example of why I like the Virus b. The track is 
called "Precursor Legacy" and an excerpt from it can be found at:

http://mp3.com/dreamquest
   - or -
http://ampcast.com/sayer
  
The two synth sounds between 3:12 and 3:55 (not the kick that comes 
in) is the Virus. Isn't that a nice unique sound?  :-)

> Ahhh- My mate Justin (who runs the Topica Nord Modular list- oh 
> i'm such a name dropper hehehe!) gave me this link- this is a very 
cool synth 
> indeed- especially if you are a fan of the SIDstation!
> 
> http://www.droid.dk/
> 
> Definately worth a listen- a sort of virtual EMS VCS3 (My all-time 
favourite 
> synth!)
> 

Cool... I'll check it out. Thanks for the link!

Sayer

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "sayersmusic" <Sayer@S...> wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., terryfunken@a... wrote:
> > "Emulating"- that's exactly it!- I think this is one thing that I 
> hate the 
> > most in a lot of hardware stuff (as well as the sound- and yes we 
> are all 
> > entitled to our own
> > opinions ! :-))- The Nord Micro/Modular is about the only hardware 
> synth I 
> > know of where you can break out of that mold. 
> 
> The Nord is a totally different concept, well maybe not since it 
> is 'emulating' a modular synth. I wouldn't mind if Access gave it a 
> go as a new synth model though.  :-)
> 
> Maybe the K-5000, Fizmo and, Microwave XT would fall in the non-
> emulation category? (although, I guess the XT is based on the PPG) 
> 
> Here's an example of why I like the Virus b. The track is 
> called "Precursor Legacy" and an excerpt from it can be found at:
> 
> http://mp3.com/dreamquest
>    - or -
> http://ampcast.com/sayer
>   
> The two synth sounds between 3:12 and 3:55 (not the kick that comes 
> in) is the Virus. Isn't that a nice unique sound?  :-)
> 
> > Ahhh- My mate Justin (who runs the Topica Nord Modular list- oh 
> > i'm such a name dropper hehehe!) gave me this link- this is a very 
> cool synth 
> > indeed- especially if you are a fan of the SIDstation!
> > 
> > http://www.droid.dk/
> > 
> > Definately worth a listen- a sort of virtual EMS VCS3 (My all-time 
> favourite 
> > synth!)
> > 
> 
> Cool... I'll check it out. Thanks for the link!
> 
> Sayer

hi,
i like the droid. i thought about droid to make my litlle friend;) 
what is the ems vcs3? never heard of it. is there a webpage of it ?

-phonophobie