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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: AVRdude - initialization failed

2004-12-17 by wbounce

Those are the 5 pins you need. On my cable I have the following Grnd wrote: > I use it. I do not have a 16 but a 128 so some thing may be different. > First double check the continuity of your cable end to end for each wire. My most recent problem with this error came from my gro

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Re: [AVR-Chat] AVRdude - initialization failed

2004-12-17 by Dingo

Yes, Avrdude is a great program (faster than anything else I've used) but you do need to tell it which partcular board or programmer you are using. You also need to tell it which AVR you are using, which port on your PC etc. As it is a command line app I suggest you use a makefil

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: AVRdude - initialization failed

2004-12-17 by Larry Barello

You have to make sure AvrDude knows about your PARTICULAR cable wiring. If you look in "avrdude.conf" the required information should be really obvious. Avrdude is very nice in that way. There are lots of parallel cable programmers out there and for some reason they all seem to u

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Re: [AVR-Chat] AVRdude - initialization failed

2004-12-17 by Kenna

I use it. I do not have a 16 but a 128 so some thing may be different. First double check the continuity of your cable end to end for each wire. My most recent problem with this error came from my ground wire coming loose because the board was in a different orientation Second Ch

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Re: [AVR-Chat] AVRdude - initialization failed

2004-12-17 by Reza

--- Jose wrote: > > Does anybody use AVRdude software? I installed it > and tried to > program an ATmega16 using a PPI programmer. But > AVRdude shows the > following error message: > > avrdude: AVR device not responding > avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1 > Double check conn

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Re: AVRdude - initialization failed

2004-12-17 by Jose

Since I am using a parallel programmer, and I already used it with AEC ISP software to program AT89S8252, I am sure it works fine (it just a cable that connects MISO, MOSI, SCK, RST and GND to the parallel port). I checked continuity from the DB25 connector to the ATmega16 progra

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Re: AVRdude - initialization failed

2004-12-17 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Jose" wrote: > ... this is my first AVR board > I have no clue about the cause > of this failure. So, this is your first use of AVRdude, your Parallel Port Interface and the AVR target board. You have not used any of these successfully before. An

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AVRdude - initialization failed

2004-12-17 by Jose

Does anybody use AVRdude software? I installed it and tried to program an ATmega16 using a PPI programmer. But AVRdude shows the following error message: avrdude: AVR device not responding avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1 Double check connections and try again, or use -F to

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RES: [AVR-Chat] RESET circuits

2004-12-17 by Edson L. Bestvina

David I use mega8 and not was necessary external brown out. (the device work every day and never "crashed") Edson -----Mensagem original----- De: David Kelly [mailto:dkelly@hiwaay.net] Enviada em: sexta-feira, 17 de dezembro de 2004 12:10 Para: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Assunto: [

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RE: [AVR-Chat] RESET circuits

2004-12-17 by Larry Barello

The internal BOD work great. The only reason to use external one is to be able to route reset signals to other chips, or, to get an interrupt of impending doom so you can do something intelligent before the power crashes (I wish Atmel had THAT feature...) -----Original Message---

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RESET circuits

2004-12-17 by David Kelly

Any advice as to whether the onboard reset and brownout circuitry is good enough by itself? Or is it necessary to use outside assistance? Specifically ATmega32, 64, 128. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================

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RES: [AVR-Chat] matrix keyboard

2004-12-17 by Edson L. Bestvina

Mr. Gomes See attached files. Edson -----Mensagem original----- De: vifra gomez [mailto:fravifra@yahoo.com.mx] Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de dezembro de 2004 20:32 Para: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Assunto: [AVR-Chat] matrix keyboard hello..any one can help me please.. i have a ma

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Re: [AVR-Chat] matrix keyboard

2004-12-17 by Svenn Dahlstrøm

Se app.note AVR243, on www.atmel.com http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/app_notes.asp?family_id=607 Svenn :-) > > hello..any one can help me please.. > > i have a matrix kaeyboard with 12 outs.. > and the keyboard its 4*4 ,,,how to connect to a avr.. > > and some code..please.. >

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-17 by wbounce

How about using a speaks and tones. An AVR chip could more than handle that. -----Original Message----- From: Bernd Felsche [mailto:bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:52 PM To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for anal

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Re: [AVR-Chat] More efficient and space saving code

2004-12-17 by Dave VanHorn

At 10:24 PM 12/16/2004, Tony Vandiver wrote: >The real savings if you've got more than one place that this is done is >that you could just initialize the pertinent data in each location : > > > TSM_Curr2Ptr: > > ldi counter,5 ;a register such as r17 > > > > ldi xl,low(TSM_Data_Cu

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Re: [AVR-Chat] More efficient and space saving code

2004-12-17 by Tony Vandiver

The real savings if you've got more than one place that this is done is that you could just initialize the pertinent data in each location : > TSM_Curr2Ptr: > ; ldi counter,5 ;a register such as r17 > > ldi xl,low(TSM_Data_Curr) ;Setup origin > ldi xl,high(TSM_Data_Curr) > > ldi

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Bernd Felsche

On Friday 17 December 2004 02:22, Dave VanHorn wrote: > At 01:04 PM 12/16/2004, Craig Limber wrote: > >Controlling R/C servos is incredibly easy using the AVR's 16 bit > >timer. I have a blurb on a web page if that's any use to you. > >http://members.shaw.ca/climber/avrpwm.html >

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Bernd Felsche

On Friday 17 December 2004 02:24, Bruce Parham wrote: > Looks like all you need is a simple mini-servo with a disk > attached to the rotary output. The Futaba web site lists a That's the basic idea, except I'm thinking more in terms of a "needle" instead of wheel so that the rela

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Re: [AVR-Chat] matrix keyboard

2004-12-16 by Dennis Kazar

You may not need the pullups. According to ace Atmel FAE if you configure as inputs, the internal pullup resistors "may be sufficient." D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave VanHorn" To: ; Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] matrix keyboard > >

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Re: [AVR-Chat] More efficient and space saving code

2004-12-16 by John Samperi

At 09:05 AM 17/12/04 +1100, you wrote: > >This reaffirms my fading feeling of being a genius :-)) Hmmmm...not such a genius :-(( ldi xh,high(TSM_Data_Curr) ;xh not xl ldi yl,low(TSM_Data_Ptr) ;Setup destination ldi yh,high(TSM_Data_Ptr) ;yh not yl OK feeling dejected again......

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Re: [AVR-Chat] matrix keyboard

2004-12-16 by Dave VanHorn

At 05:31 PM 12/16/2004, vifra gomez wrote: >hello..any one can help me please.. > >i have a matrix kaeyboard with 12 outs.. >and the keyboard its 4*4 ,,,how to connect to a avr.. > >and some code..please.. I can't really figure what you mean here.. Normally you'll have some numbe

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Jim Wagner

The lag time is quite long but it worked for me. Jim On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:28:38 -0500 Dave VanHorn wrote: > > > > > > > At 04:07 PM 12/16/2004, Jeffrey Engel wrote: > > > >Here's an on-line demo using an R/C servo that I > >stumbled across while looking for something else. > >

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matrix keyboard

2004-12-16 by vifra gomez

hello..any one can help me please.. i have a matrix kaeyboard with 12 outs.. and the keyboard its 4*4 ,,,how to connect to a avr.. and some code..please.. thank you.. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? La mejor conexión a internet y 25MB extr

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Re: [AVR-Chat] More efficient and space saving code

2004-12-16 by John Samperi

At 10:51 PM 16/12/04 +1100, you wrote: >Last time I looked, LDS and STS were 2 words each so the original >routine was 21 words... ;-) And your new routine is only 10 words so >it looks like a worthwhile saving... :-) > This reaffirms my fading feeling of being a genius :-)) I'm

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Jeffrey Engel

Dave, When I 'researched' it, there was a significant delay between control movement and response but seemed pretty good other than that. You probably weren't the only person checking it out. Jeff Engel --- Dave VanHorn wrote: > > At 04:07 PM 12/16/2004, Jeffrey Engel wrote: > >

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Dave VanHorn

At 04:07 PM 12/16/2004, Jeffrey Engel wrote: >Here's an on-line demo using an R/C servo that I >stumbled across while looking for something else. > >He even has a goofy-looking green pointer hooked to >it! > >http://www.ace-lab.com/SCADA/robot.html Cool! Servo wars. Apparently I

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Jeffrey Engel

Here's an on-line demo using an R/C servo that I stumbled across while looking for something else. He even has a goofy-looking green pointer hooked to it! http://www.ace-lab.com/SCADA/robot.html HTH, Jeff Engel ===== Happiness is - positive intake manifold pressure. _____________

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Dave VanHorn

At 01:04 PM 12/16/2004, Craig Limber wrote: >Controlling R/C servos is incredibly easy using the AVR's 16 bit >timer. I have a blurb on a web page if that's any use to you. > >http://members.shaw.ca/climber/avrpwm.html Ok, but in this case, you aren't using the servo's drive elec

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Re: Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Craig Limber

Controlling R/C servos is incredibly easy using the AVR's 16 bit timer. I have a blurb on a web page if that's any use to you. http://members.shaw.ca/climber/avrpwm.html The high torque microservos tend to use the most current. The "standard" servos often use the least when movin

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Ken Holt

I thought I might chime in here re LED brightness: The newer "ultra" bright LEDs, in the 3-7000 mcd range and can be seen in most daylight conditions when placed in a dark background or hooded arrangement. They are still moderately expensive for the very good ones, about a buck f

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Re: /PEN pin on ATMEGA128 (2)

2004-12-16 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Maddox" wrote: > > ... PEN ... is for SPI > > programming ... > Disagree, I tied the /PEN > pin high ... and I program > it with the AVRISP ... This is getting tiresome. From what I've read here, not even looking at the data sheet, it is pre

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Re: [AVR-Chat] More efficient and space saving code

2004-12-16 by Andrew Lim

Hey Les, Thanks for pointing out. Its surely a shorter code from John...hahaha... Thanks again. Good job John !! Regards, Andrew Les Grant wrote: Hi John, Last time I looked, LDS and STS were 2 words each so the original routine was 21 words... ;-) And your new routine is only 10

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: /PEN pin on ATMEGA128 (2)

2004-12-16 by Paul Maddox

Les, > Wrong. PEN stands for Programming Enable and it is for SPI > programming - not parallel. Please check the data sheet (page 7 of > rev I). It is only used on a power-on-reset. Disagree, I tied the /PEN pin high (via a resistor, yeah I know) and I program it with the AVRISP

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Re: [AVR-Chat] /PEN pin on ATMEGA128

2004-12-16 by Les Grant

From page 7 of the data sheet: "PEN is a programming enable pin for the SPI Serial Programming mode. By holding this pin low during a Power-on Reset, the device will enter the SPI Serial Programming mode. PEN has no function during normal operation." Note that it is only sensed d

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: /PEN pin on ATMEGA128 (2)

2004-12-16 by Les Grant

On 13 Dec 2004 at 1:12, Lasse Madsen wrote: > Hi Ridho, > > Tie PEN to your supply (high) no need for a series resistor that's just a > waist of money. Correct. > PEN stand for Parallel Programming Enable if you're not going to use this > FORGET ABOUT IT! Tie it high and don't li

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Re: [AVR-Chat] More efficient and space saving code

2004-12-16 by Les Grant

Hi John, Last time I looked, LDS and STS were 2 words each so the original routine was 21 words... ;-) And your new routine is only 10 words so it looks like a worthwhile saving... :-) Regards, Les. On 10 Dec 2004 at 15:43, John Samperi wrote: > > At 06:52 PM 9/12/04 -0800, you w

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Bernd Felsche

On Thursday 16 December 2004 16:27, Gert Mueller wrote: > >That's why I wouldn't move it very often, nor far, > >most of the time. > >The load against which it'd move would be close to zero. > >Any idea of the current draw if the position isn't changing? > >That's the sort of inf

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Gert Mueller

>That's why I wouldn't move it very often, nor far, >most of the time. >The load against which it'd move would be close to zero. >Any idea of the current draw if the position isn't changing? >That's the sort of information I'm looking for. The idle current of common R/C servos is

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by David D. Rea

It's another yahoogroup - just go to http://groups.yahoo.com/ and search for "msp430" - I picked the one with the most members (over 2000) figuring it'd be the most active... Best Regards, Dave On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 22:27, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > David D. Rea wrote: > > > Whoops..

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Re: AW: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by David Kelly

On Dec 15, 2004, at 6:58 PM, Bernd Felsche wrote: > Any idea of the current draw if the position isn't changing? > That's the sort of information I'm looking for. If your pulse timing varies or the servo is worn or cheap then it will "hunt" while not moving and consume a lot of c

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Kathy Quinlan

David D. Rea wrote: > Whoops...thought this was posted in my MSP430 forum! My bad! > > ifdef "Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?" > #define MSP430 AVR > endif > > :) > > Dave Lol is ok mate, would you share the link to the MSP list ? as I would like to join one da

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by David D. Rea

Whoops...thought this was posted in my MSP430 forum! My bad! ifdef "Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?" #define MSP430 AVR endif :) Dave On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 22:16, David D. Rea wrote: > > LED's are in use at the moment, but useless under nominal lighting > > con

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by David D. Rea

> LED's are in use at the moment, but useless under nominal lighting > conditions. Bright daylight. There are a variety of very bright daylight-visible LEDs on the market. Some output hundreds of mcd in only tens of milliamps. Consider this option - arrange six high output bi-col

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Jeffrey Engel

Make that 'plastic'. . . Jeff --- Jeffrey Engel wrote: > The pointer could be something simple made from > pastic, like a disk with the 'needle' drawn on with > a > marker. Naturally, once you're convinced it will > work > you could fab up something more elegant. ===== Happiness

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Jeffrey Engel

Bernd; IIRC, the RC servos take a 0.5ms to 1.5ms pulse input at about TTL levels. If you're really strapped for power, you could always power it down until the reading needs to change. The pointer could be something simple made from pastic, like a disk with the 'needle' drawn on

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Re: AW: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Bernd Felsche

On Thursday 16 December 2004 00:27, Gert Mueller wrote: > those servos draw quite a lot of current - especially while they move, That's why I wouldn't move it very often, nor far, most of the time. The load against which it'd move would be close to zero. Any idea of the current d

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Bernd Felsche

On Thursday 16 December 2004 01:51, Mike Murphree wrote: > Bernd Felsche said: > > I'm considering all sorts of low-power options for providing an > > analogue indication (moving needle or bar). Typical ammeters draw > > current and the quantity I want to indicate isn't directly

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by David Kelly

On Dec 15, 2004, at 10:19 AM, Leon Heller wrote: > I think that the Kawasaki Hayabusa motorbike uses servo motors for the > speedo and rev counter. When the ignition is switched on and the bike > does a > self-test, both sets of needles rotate rapidly for a few seconds. The Hayab

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Radio servo for analogue indicator?

2004-12-16 by Bernd Felsche

On Thursday 16 December 2004 00:16, KEN HUNT wrote: > wrote: > > I'm considering all sorts of low-power options for providing an > > analogue indication (moving needle or bar). Typical ammeters > > draw current and the quantity I want to indicate isn't directly > > available as a

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