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Re: Teenagers should write code.

2004-09-07 by Kathy Andrea Quinlan

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn wrote: > At 11:27 PM 9/6/2004, stevech wrote: > I was just surprised that I hadn't made the connection before. Dave, you just needed to realise that you had teenagers first ;) Kat.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] FPGA's

2004-09-07 by Reza

Hi; I am no hardware designer, but I tried long before using Xilinx XC95144XL CPLD's. the only thing you need to start using it, is a xilinx cable programmer, which is something like AVR ISP cable, the ISE WebPack synthesys tool (which can be freely downloaded from Xilinx web sit

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: FPGA's

2004-09-07 by Ken Holt

Digilent is the maker of the Spartan-3 development board that I use. tfcsd wrote: > try > http://www.digilentinc.com/ > > Kathy Andrea Quinlan wrote: > >>--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Andrea Quinlan" >> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>I want to play with FPGA's, so I am

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: FPGA's

2004-09-06 by Mike Murphree

On Sep 6, 2004, at 11:11 AM, Kathy Andrea Quinlan wrote: > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Andrea Quinlan" > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I want to play with FPGA's, so I am looking for a dev kit. I do not >> want to spend $1,000's but want something that will let me learn. >>

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Teenagers should write code.

2004-09-06 by Dave VanHorn

I just had one of those moments... :) I came to the realization that the cooperative multitasking model that I've used as the core of my applications for years, is nothing more than how a teenager behaves. When any chore is due: (system call to transmit a byte) First, find any po

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: FPGA's

2004-09-06 by tfcsd

try http://www.digilentinc.com/ Kathy Andrea Quinlan wrote: --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com , "Kathy Andrea Quinlan" wrote: Hi all, I want to play with FPGA's, so I am looking for a dev kit. I do not want to spend $1,000's but want something that will let me learn. any recomendat

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Re: [AVR-Chat] FPGA's

2004-09-06 by Ken Holt

RE FPGA development - we just bought the Spartan-3 Starter Kit (Xilinx) for about $100 and it is a great part, and cheap, and you can get going on it fairly quickly. The development board comes with a BGA 256 part, but we'll be using a PQ208. PCI and many other cores are free, an

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Re: [AVR-Chat] FPGA's

2004-09-06 by Mike Murphree

On Sep 6, 2004, at 9:38 AM, wrote: > I don't know much about them, but we use Xilinx dev boards to teach > VHDL etc at work (a uni, but I do the analogue labs.) I had a quick > look at their website and found the Spartan II PCI development system. > It's 250USD on their site. Sof

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Re: [AVR-Chat] FPGA's

2004-09-06 by Cosmin Buhu

Try here http://www.fpga4fun.com/ . Site not working (at least from here), I remember they have a board with PCI too. See the Google cache: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:fPdIzq_htsoJ:www.fpga4fun.com/+&hl=en Cosmin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Andrea Quinlan"

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RE: [AVR-Chat] FPGA's

2004-09-06 by r_reeves@blueyonder.co.uk

I don't know much about them, but we use Xilinx dev boards to teach VHDL etc at work (a uni, but I do the analogue labs.) I had a quick look at their website and found the Spartan II PCI development system. It's 250USD on their site. Software I don't know about, but I *think* the

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RE: [AVR-Chat] FPGA's

2004-09-06 by Brian Fairchild

try http://www.burched.biz/ , based in .au -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Andrea Quinlan [mailto:kat-yahoo@kaqelectronics.dyndns.org] Sent: 06 September 2004 15:17 To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AVR-Chat] FPGA's Hi all, I want to play with FPGA's, so I am looking

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Re: [AVR-Chat] FPGA's

2004-09-06 by Steven Chang-Lin Yu

unh, i think FPGA is never cheaper then 1000, are you a uni student? perhaps you can borrow one of the development kit from your uni to play with it?

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Re: FPGA's

2004-09-06 by Kathy Andrea Quinlan

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Andrea Quinlan" wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to play with FPGA's, so I am looking for a dev kit. I do not > want to spend $1,000's but want something that will let me learn. > > any recomendations ? OK after looking at the sugestions and doi

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Re: [AVR-Chat] FPGA's

2004-09-06 by erikc

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Andrea Quinlan" To: Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 15:17 Subject: [AVR-Chat] FPGA's > Hi all, > > I want to play with FPGA's, so I am looking for a dev kit. I do not > want to spend $1,000's but want something that will let me learn. >

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FPGA's

2004-09-06 by Kathy Andrea Quinlan

Hi all, I want to play with FPGA's, so I am looking for a dev kit. I do not want to spend $1,000's but want something that will let me learn. any recomendations ? Things I would like: Ability to do designs with PCI. Ability to impliment IP cores. Any sugestions ? Pref australian

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Re: AVR butterfly and the 4 Mbit dataflash

2004-09-05 by kk5vh

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Alex Gibson wrote: > Does bascom support the atmega169 yet ? > > Alex Bascom supports the atmega169 in beta version 1.11.7.5 . But I get a butterfly to hang on the hardware SPI initialize command. I keep wondering if I am doing something wrong and

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Re: [AVR-Chat] AVR butterfly and the 4 Mbit dataflash

2004-09-05 by Alex Gibson

kk5vh wrote: > Has anybody gotten the dataflash to work using Bascom on the > butterfly? > > How about using Assy or C? > > I would think it was simple but that has not yet been proven. > > Thanks > John KK5VH Does bascom support the atmega169 yet ? Alex

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Re: [AVR-Chat] AVR butterfly and the 4 Mbit dataflash

2004-09-03 by James Wagner

Quite a few use C or assy. Have not heard of any Bascom users. Jim, KA7EHK On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:24:04 -0000 "kk5vh" wrote: > > > > > Has anybody gotten the dataflash to work using Bascom on > the > butterfly? > > How about using Assy or C? > > I would think it was simple but th

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AVR butterfly and the 4 Mbit dataflash

2004-09-03 by kk5vh

Has anybody gotten the dataflash to work using Bascom on the butterfly? How about using Assy or C? I would think it was simple but that has not yet been proven. Thanks John KK5VH

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Why use the ADC pre-scalar bits

2004-09-02 by John Samperi

At 11:52 PM 9/1/04 -0500, you wrote: >That's the fun part. >Atmel gives us no guidance here. >What worries me, is that you might get one result on one chip, and another on another chip, with a different date code. Or, it might be consistent.. > How's the raging headache going Dav

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Why use the ADC pre-scalar bits

2004-09-02 by James Wagner

My hunch, and its JUST that, is that a prescale of 2 with a 16MHz processor clock, would be a major problem. Again, a hunch, I would not expect much better than a few bits "accuracy" if that. The rule I have used, without any substantiation or validation, is that every doubling o

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Re: Why use the ADC pre-scalar bits

2004-09-02 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Craig Limber wrote: > ... how much accuracy do I lose? > ... with an 8 MHz clock and a > prescale of 2? I ... am only > interested in 8 bit readings but > want a high sample rate. I don't have the ATmega128 data sheet with me, but this is fairly w

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Problem with Atmega128 reset line

2004-09-02 by Brian Dean

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 05:14:11AM -0000, Yang Wang wrote: > Thanks for the reply. Do we have to pull up the PEN pin? I didn't > connect it to anything, and it was high as I measured when the > program was running, so it looks like it has an internal pull-up. But > I think this i

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Why use the ADC pre-scalar bits

2004-09-02 by Dave VanHorn

At 03:23 PM 9/1/2004, Craig Limber wrote: >> If its too fast, you will loose accuracy. > >Thanks for the quick responses! I guess the next question is how >much accuracy do I lose? For example, what kind of variation could >I expect with an 8 MHz clock and a prescale of 2? I have

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Why use the ADC pre-scalar bits

2004-09-01 by Craig Limber

> If its too fast, you will loose accuracy. Thanks for the quick responses! I guess the next question is how much accuracy do I lose? For example, what kind of variation could I expect with an 8 MHz clock and a prescale of 2? I have the results left justified and am only interest

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Why use the ADC pre-scalar bits

2004-09-01 by Dave VanHorn

At 01:21 PM 9/1/2004, Erik Loose wrote: >Not to be too picky, but since my last name is Loose, I like to see the word >used correctly. You "lose" accuracy - "loose" is an adjective. ;) Sorry, I'm fighting a screaming headache today.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Why use the ADC pre-scalar bits

2004-09-01 by James Wagner

The ADC clock needs to be in a fairly narrow range if the accuracy specs are to be met. If its too slow, the sample-hold cap will loose some of its charge and the converter won't work right. If its too fast, you will loose accuracy. But, since the processor clock can vary over a

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Why use the ADC pre-scalar bits

2004-09-01 by Erik Loose

Not to be too picky, but since my last name is Loose, I like to see the word used correctly. You "lose" accuracy - "loose" is an adjective. ;) Erik -----Original Message----- From: Dave VanHorn [mailto:dvanhorn@dvanhorn.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 11:04 To: AVR-Chat@

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Why use the ADC pre-scalar bits

2004-09-01 by Dave VanHorn

At 11:56 AM 9/1/2004, Craig Limber wrote: >Hi there; > >I was just browsing the docs on the AVR ADC. I was wondering if anyone >could tell me why I would want to use a ADC prescalar other than 2 >(the mimimum)? Does it affect the accuracy or noise? Thanks. The adc clock has to be

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Why use the ADC pre-scalar bits

2004-09-01 by Craig Limber

Hi there; I was just browsing the docs on the AVR ADC. I was wondering if anyone could tell me why I would want to use a ADC prescalar other than 2 (the mimimum)? Does it affect the accuracy or noise? Thanks. Craig

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Re: Problem with Atmega128 reset line

2004-09-01 by Yang Wang

Thanks for the reply. Do we have to pull up the PEN pin? I didn't connect it to anything, and it was high as I measured when the program was running, so it looks like it has an internal pull-up. But I think this is probably going to be worth of a try. This is what I found on the

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Back to basics - math questions

2004-08-30 by Mark Jordan

I'm dealing with two-complement math using 16bit registers. Please take a look at my routines and tell me if I'm doing anything wrong or if there is a better way of doing it: --------- Adding two signed numbers is: add numl, fatl adc numh, fath --------- For subtracting two signe

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Back to basics - math questions

2004-08-30 by James Wagner

There are several Atmel app notes on multi-byte math. I think there are examples in both assy and C. Jim On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:31:12 -0300 "Mark Jordan" wrote: > > > > > > I'm dealing with > two-complement math using 16bit registers. >

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Re: [AVR-Chat] PORTA input problems

2004-08-28 by Jack Valmadre

Replaced the chip with a new one and everything worked fine. Sorry about that. Jack. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave VanHorn To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com ; AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] PORTA input problems At 06:

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Re: AVRStudio / PonyProg questions

2004-08-28 by Lee

I'm using Studio4.9, but that appears to be the answer. Thanks for the help. Lee --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Astria Nur Irfansyah" wrote: > Maybe you havent set the assembler options. You are using > AVR Studio 3 right? Just set the options from the > [Project] [Project Set

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Re: [AVR-Chat] AVRStudio / PonyProg questions

2004-08-28 by Astria Nur Irfansyah

Maybe you havent set the assembler options. You are using AVR Studio 3 right? Just set the options from the [Project] [Project Settings...] menu, and change the code generation output file format from "Object format for AVR Studio" to "Intel HEX". A HEX file will be created upon

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Problem with Atmega128 reset line

2004-08-28 by Ivan Vernot

The pull-up should be fine. Personally I would still use a 'reset chip' (like the MC34064) to give a bit more margin for noise etc, but the 1K should still work. Something to check though is that Pin 1 (PEN) should be pulled up also. HTH Ivan Vernot realtimedesigns ----- Original

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Re: [AVR-Chat] PORTA input problems

2004-08-28 by Dave VanHorn

At 06:41 PM 8/27/2004, Jack Valmadre wrote: >I checked the voltage on the pins and they were all 4.87-4.98V, the same as >the outputs. >Activating pull-ups didn't make any difference. >This code: > sensors = PINA; > sensors &= 0xF0; >didn't compile any differently to: > sensors =

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Problem with Atmega128 reset line

2004-08-28 by Brian Dean

On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 06:24:37PM -0000, Yang Wang wrote: > Can we connect the reset line and +5V line with a 1k pull-up > resistor, to keep the reset line high? Yes, that should be fine. I normally use a 10K pull-up, but 1K should work. You don't usually want to to tie the line

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Re: [AVR-Chat] AVRStudio / PonyProg questions

2004-08-28 by John Samperi

At 10:04 PM 27/08/04 -0000, you wrote: > >Hi all. I've finally got AVRStudio working Glad it works now. What was the problem? >What file type is usually generated by the AVR >assembler in AVRStudio that can be used by PonyProg? I guess it would be the .hex file which is generated

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Re: [AVR-Chat] PORTA input problems

2004-08-27 by Jack Valmadre

I checked the voltage on the pins and they were all 4.87-4.98V, the same as the outputs. Activating pull-ups didn't make any difference. This code: sensors = PINA; sensors &= 0xF0; didn't compile any differently to: sensors = PINA & 0xF0; Jack. ----- Original Message ----- From:

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: PID Controller ...

2004-08-27 by Larry Barello

I used the basic ideas for a large robot built for a high school competition, last year. WOrks great. I wrote my functions all in C. I only used his flow chart and math. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Mucha [mailto:dave_mucha@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:09

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Re: [AVR-Chat] PORTA input problems

2004-08-27 by Dave VanHorn

At 04:46 PM 8/27/2004, Jack Valmadre wrote: >I forgot to mention that I tested pins 0-3 on PORT A as outputs and they >worked fine. >I have also tried connecting an LED to the output of the comparator where it >would usually be connected to the Atmel and it went on/off as expecte

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Re: [AVR-Chat] PORTA input problems

2004-08-27 by Jack Valmadre

I forgot to mention that I tested pins 0-3 on PORT A as outputs and they worked fine. I have also tried connecting an LED to the output of the comparator where it would usually be connected to the Atmel and it went on/off as expected. Jack. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack

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PORTA input problems

2004-08-27 by Jack Valmadre

Hi, I have the outputs of a quad comparator (LM339) connected to PORT A of an AT90S8535 on pins 0-3. I can read pins 0 and 1 fine, but 2 and 3 are constantly read as low. I tried moving this to pins 4-7 and the opposite happened, so I could read from pins 6 and 7 but not 4 and 5.

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AVRStudio / PonyProg questions

2004-08-27 by Lee

Hi all. I've finally got AVRStudio working and I'm planning on using PonyProg to download the code into an ATMEga32 using a parallel interface. i didn't see any files in my target directory with the extensions that are listed in PonyProg. What file type is usually generated by th

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Unsubscribe me please

2004-08-27 by amr elnady

please unsubscribe me from this group --- Jose wrote: > If I use the internal 2.56V reference, how the AREF > pin should be > connected? Can connect a capacitor between AREF and > GND? > Thanks in advance. > > Jose > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and I

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Problem with Atmega128 reset line

2004-08-27 by Lasse Madsen

Hi Yang .. If you look at the ATm128 datasheet over the Reset line you will find no reason why the mentioned thing should occur… A badly designed power supply comes to mind … try adding a large capacitor to your +5V and at least 100nF to Reset .. Regards Lasse Madsen -----Origina

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Problem with Atmega128 reset line

2004-08-27 by Yang Wang

Hi all, Can we connect the reset line and +5V line with a 1k pull-up resistor, to keep the reset line high? Out of the 8 circuit boards with the same schematics I am building, 6 of them work in this way, while the other two do not. For these two problematic ones, the reset line i

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Re: PID Controller ...

2004-08-27 by Dave Mucha

Hi Guys, very interesting site. Makes me think motor control is super simple as the program is so short. Has anyone actually made something from those schematics and software ? Dave --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie Heath" wrote: > Try this link: http://elm-chan.org/works

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