AVR-Chat

----- Original Message ----
From: Leon <leon355@btinternet.com>
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2008 2:59:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: HOLY SHIT BATMAN!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Parham" <obparham@jpl. nasa.gov>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroup s.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 7:29 PM
Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: HOLY SHIT BATMAN!

>> "Microchip has a proven reputation for enabling low-risk product
>> development, lower total system cost, faster time to market and
>> outstanding customer service for thousands of diverse customer
>> applications worldwide spanning the automotive, communications,
>> computing, consumer and industrial control markets. We expect to
>> apply these same strengths to Atmel's business while continuing
>> to deliver their full range of microcontrollers, and intend to
>> make the integration process as seamless as possible for you."
>
> I read "... a proven reputation for enabling low-risk product
> development" to mean no more new, interesting niche parts like
> the 32-bit AVR's unless someone like GM or IBM asks for it.
> Further, I would expect the current wide range of parts to be
> trimmed down with all but the ten top selling parts vanishing
> within six months. Very sad.
>
> It sounds like Microchip can't stand the competition so they've
> teamed up with the takeover gorilla, ON Semi, to eliminate it.

Microchip's policy has always been to keep parts in production. Unlike 
Atmel, they don't drop older parts when something bigger and better comes 
along, leaving customers in the lurch.

I think it's the case that every device that Microchip has ever made is 
still available.

Leon

    


      

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From: "harmon,jr sicat" <hcsicat@yahoo.com>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: HOLY SHIT BATMAN!


> Just curious, Leon i've been reading your messages and something keeps 
> popping up my mind.
> Are you working for Microchip?

No, but I don't like to see them being slagged off. They make perfectly good 
products. I actually use PICs more these days than AVRs, because they are 
easier to get hold of and Microchip's support is much better than Atmel's, 
and their tools are better.

The wider range of devices means that a closer fit to a particular 
application is generally possible, than with the AVR, in  terms of number of 
pins and features, reducing cost.

Leon

> board (could've even made it smaller!) which can be tacked inside ham 
> radio equipment with double-stick tape or what have you.
> 
> I do like the AVR architecture better than the Microchip 
> architecture.
> 
> Zack
>

From: Zack Widup <w9sz@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: HOLY SHIT BATMAN!
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 1:56 PM






On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Leon wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "harmon,jr sicat" <hcsicat@yahoo. com>
> To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroup s.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: HOLY SHIT BATMAN!
>
>
>> Just curious, Leon i've been reading your messages and something keeps
>> popping up my mind.
>> Are you working for Microchip?
>
> No, but I don't like to see them being slagged off. They make perfectly good
> products. I actually use PICs more these days than AVRs, because they are
> easier to get hold of and Microchip's support is much better than Atmel's,
> and their tools are better.
>
> The wider range of devices means that a closer fit to a particular
> application is generally possible, than with the AVR, in terms of number of
> pins and features, reducing cost.
>
> Leon
>
>

I have nothing against PIC's either. To my knowledge, Atmel does not make 
anything comparable to the PIC 10F200. A 6-pin SMD microcontroller will 
fit in some timy places. I made a Morse code keyer on a 1/2 inch square 
board (could've even made it smaller!) which can be tacked inside ham 
radio equipment with double-stick tape or what have you.

I do like the AVR architecture better than the Microchip 
architecture.

Zack
 














      

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From: stevech11 <stevech@san.rr.com>
Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: HOLY crap BATMAN!
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 3:34 AM







What I've read is that this is a hostile take over attempt, because
Atmel's board previously rejected the offers from the two companies in
pursuit (neither of which actually have the assets to consummate the
deal, per the reports). 

Atmel has been struggling, financially, with turmoil on the board.
With the depressed US markets, the Atmel shareholders may either want
to wait for recovery (they are all under water), or they want a fire
sale to cash-out. For the latter, the dirty trick tactics of going
public with this offer is a disgusting attack by greedy people looking
to kill competition and fatten the wallets of the company-pairs'
executives and shareholders. Then they leave yet another train wreck
behind them.

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroup s.com, Zack Widup <w9sz@...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Leon wrote:
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "harmon,jr sicat" <hcsicat@... >
> > To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroup s.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: HOLY SHIT BATMAN!
> >
> >
> >> Just curious, Leon i've been reading your messages and something
keeps
> >> popping up my mind.
> >> Are you working for Microchip?
> >
> > No, but I don't like to see them being slagged off. They make
perfectly good
> > products. I actually use PICs more these days than AVRs, because
they are
> > easier to get hold of and Microchip's support is much better than
Atmel's,
> > and their tools are better.
> >
> > The wider range of devices means that a closer fit to a particular
> > application is generally possible, than with the AVR, in terms of
number of
> > pins and features, reducing cost.
> >
> > Leon
> >
> >
> 
> I have nothing against PIC's either. To my knowledge, Atmel does
not make 
> anything comparable to the PIC 10F200. A 6-pin SMD microcontroller
will 
> fit in some timy places. I made a Morse code keyer on a 1/2 inch
square 
> board (could've even made it smaller!) which can be tacked inside ham 
> radio equipment with double-stick tape or what have you.
> 
> I do like the AVR architecture better than the Microchip 
> architecture.
> 
> Zack
>

 














      

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