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Re: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor

2009-10-21 by Lee Borrell

Could you give me a clue as to how to use this thing?
 
The docs say to tag a shortcut to Jsynth.jar - but no such file exists.
 
Half the files are not registered - and I presume I need to install something else in order to run it. It is exactly because of this type of format that I do not use "open source" or what I call "comes in bits" programs.
 
All I want is a simple EXE that runs as soon as you double click. It was due to Vbasic's capacity to create  "comes in bits" programs that they failed to work when I transported them between OS or even between machines with the same platforms.
 
I am guessing that Jsynth is incompatible with WIN98 and seeing as all my synths are tied to a 98 machine that makes things kind of awkward. Although I have a MIDI compatible XP machine - Jsynth doesn't seem to be just a matter of starting it up. Anyone who creates programs that require from me more than a double click to get it running are failing in their task to create a good program.
 
Any clues?

--- On Wed, 14/10/09, korgpolyex800 <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:


From: korgpolyex800 <korgpolyex800@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 14 October, 2009, 19:59


  



I think you should consider developing a driver for JsynthLib which is an open source project to provide librarian and patch editing functions for ANY synth that has MIDI/sysex.

I designed/created/ sell the hardware/software upgrade for the Korg Poly-800 (www.hawk800. com) and I now have a librarian/patch editor working for my upgrade kit based on JsynthLib. It's not quite ready for release yet so it's not posted on the web site - yet.

Writing the code for the driver was hard going at first because JsynthLib is based on Java and I had not written any Java for some years. But now that I've gone through the pain of that, I am enjoying adding the editing functions to the code. All of the slider, knobs, switches, etc that you would have to create in a purpose built program are already implemented as widgets so with JsynthLib you just have to focus on the sysex code for each synth. Getting basic librarian patch save/load functions is really quite easy.

I would imagine that creating a librarian for any CZ would be relatively easy and the editor wouldn't be too hard after that.

Since JsynthLib is Java based, it runs on any platform. That's a very nice thing.

Mike.

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups .com, Lee Borrell <templarser@ ...> wrote:
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> In theory- you can edit a CZ file with MIDI-ox but it is perhaps not the recommended route - I can't recall if CZ's operate a checksum - but if they did it means calculating it manually - and even if they do not - then editing individual bytes is possible - but it means referring to the byte map ( I have it online but the site seems to be down for some reason) - this is why Charles and myself have been trying to find a way to do an editor.
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> There are a couple of options - use a retro emulator such as STEEM to mimic and old machine that has an editor.
> Get an editor that runs on your system.
> Write your own editor.
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> Obviously the preferred one is the 2nd one - unless someone has already done it- then it means learning one of the PC languages such as VB or C etc etc.
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> I guess most musos are after a plug and play option - and exe file that allows sysx transfer and editing - to date I have not found a viable one that has not got bugs. Which is why I was planning on writing my own - I have got as far as transferring the internal memory of a DX100 to a commodore machine and breaking down the CZ sysx code to begin planning a program - either way - that is not for the PC - I believe there was a program called UNISYN which Bernard was working on -not sure where that is at.
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> I can send anyone the programs I have which are PC-based for the CZ - I think one is DOS based - and the other runs in windows - I have not used it extensively to say if it is any good. I am pretty sure I got it from the files section of this forum.
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> From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@.. .>
> Subject: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Wednesday, 14 October, 2009, 2:15 AM
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> What do you want to do? If you just want to edit a sysex dump, I think you could use midi-ox. --Steve
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