Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

I have recreated some CZ patches (my own) on the VZ by hand. A few years ago, we discussed a project to map CZ voice architechture to the VZ voice architechture. If that could be done, it might be possible to write a program to automate the conversion process. Personally, I'd rather spend time creating new patches to take advantage of the VZ.

As for converting VZ patches to work on the CZ, I think that would be impossible for at least 90% of available VZ patches, either by sysex or by hand (or perhaps should I say "by ear).

--Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@...> wrote:
>
> Nope CZ and VZ series aren't compatible...
> 
> On 22 Oct 2009 at 17:28, charlie from PARRY wrote:
> 
> > will any of the vz1 sys ex work over to the cz101 ????
> > 
> > 
> > charles
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "cliffe123" <cliffe123@...>
> > To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:00 PM
> > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: VZ1 is still impressive.
> > 
> > 
> > > In terms of self morphing? I think I have and one example can be
> > found in
> > cliffs set-1, Op Mem A-3. This is generally a two patched voice
> > opmem. For
> > this I used mod wheel 1 and inside of it the A ENV BIAS should be
> > turned ON.
> > The single patch in normal mode to work for the op mem, example
> > MENU1, VALUE
> > 14 of AMP SENS, and SENSITIVITY=7 for M1 or modual-1 for that
> > particular mod
> > wheel tweeking.
> > >
> > > Another cool affect you can also try and this is just on the
> > normal patch
> > itself, patch name called HILLAGE LIKE on voice D-6 in cliffs set-2.
> > Play
> > any keys without taking ur fingers off or sort of glide through the
> > keys and
> > you'll notice that sweeping effect. (without the use of a mod wheel)
> > Anyway
> > study them and see what you can incorperate them with. Hope i've
> > answered
> > all your questions.........
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer"
> > <smw-mail@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Cliff and others, let me pick your brains on VZ patch editing
> > ideas. I
> > have recently been looking into the idea of doing long form
> > performances and
> > have been reeaxmining my VZ-8m patches/op-mems (from the early
> > 1990s, I
> > think) and tweaking them.  However, I suspect there are VZ
> > programming ideas
> > that others have played with (or that you might want to play with)
> > which
> > would lend themselves to long form perfomance.
> > > >
> > > > I have in mind the following criteria):
> > > > (1) single patches [combinable into op-mem](with up to 8 VZ
> > modules per
> > patch)
> > > > (2) that slowly change (such as timbre) over a long period of
> > time and
> > > > (3) which can be altered in realtime (CCs)
> > > >
> > > > Towards this end, I have tweaked some of my old patches to add
> > CC
> > control. For example, one patch previously used the standard mod
> > wheel CC to
> > take a smooth tone and morph it into a rhythmic patch (amp
> > modulation
> > controlling the sound). To this I added a definable CC that now
> > varies the
> > frequencing of the "lfo." I have done simliar things with other
> > effects.
> > > >
> > > > However, I have not yet tackled the long, sonically
> > self-morphing,
> > sustained type of patch. Have you? Could you? Do you have any
> > programming
> > ideas for this sort of thing? Also, if you have any patches that do
> > this
> > kind of thing, can you share them so I can take them apart to see
> > how they
> > are contructed? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > --Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "cliffe123" <cliffe123@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, I think it is kind of a hinderance in the begining and
> > im still
> > learning myself trying to feel my way around this VZ programming
> > obstacles.
> > Anyway just I couldn't seem to master the technique of how wendy
> > does hers
> > to make them a real gamelan sounds. Anyway I think you or anybody
> > might be
> > interested in hearing the new mp3 VZ ethno demo at:
> > http://www.cosmosynth.userpage.de/ Scrul down untill you see Ethno
> > soundset
> > for the VZ. This should be worth hearing worth hearing.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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