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RE: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor

2009-10-25 by Karl H. May

Hi Charles,
 
I'll have a look at home tonight and get back to you tomorrow.
 
Cheers, Karl
 
 

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From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of charlie from PARRY
Sent: Monday, 26 October 2009 9:48 AM
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor


  

hi carl , i was wondering if you have those drivers and would be kind
enough
to send to me for midi quest ,
i use the atari version(of midi quest) ,
and you guessed it , i can't get mine to work using midi quest ,i have
drivers but am missing the templates,

i am in the process of writing my own cz101 editor but its for use on
the
atari i mailily use for midi

but i wrote it using the atari emulator which runs on windows..

i know of couple good ones which work in the emulator that windows xp
can
power.

any how look forward to hear back from you !

charles

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl H. May" <kmay@...
<mailto:kmay%40brayecragg.com.au> >
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor

> Hi All,
>
> I have been trying without success for about 12 months to get an
> editor/librarian working for my CZ101 in Windows XP or 3.1. I use 3.1
> for midi sequencing on an old 486.
>
> I mainly want a librarian because I don't mind editing sounds on the
CZ
> itself.
>
> This is what I have found so far:
>
> 1. There is a freeware patch editor at ahermida@...
<mailto:ahermida%40erols.com> . It is called
> CZSysEditor. My recollection is that it will work under XP.
>
> 2. There is a freeware editor/librarian called Soundlib at
> www.sonicspot.com. It looks very good, but I haven't been able to get
it
> to work under either XP or 3.1. If anyone gets it to work, please post
> the steps they took to get it to work.
>
> 3. There is a file called cseo2install floating around. It is an
> editor/librarian. I haven't tried it. Google it.
>
> 4.I have tried the sys ex librarian in the sequencer I use,
Powertracks.
> It will get The CZ to dump data to it, but only 7 bytes. This is an
> incomplete dump.
>
> 5. Midi Ox may not work, because I believe it requires the synth to
> initiate the dump. I believe there is no facility in the CZ to
initiate
> a dump.
>
> 6. I have tried MidiQuest versions 4,6, and 10, and none of them work
> with my CZ.
>
> I have had dialogue with Michael Lambie at MidiQuest about it. He says
> MQ seems to work with some CZ's but not others. He doesn't know why,
but
> wonders whether the specs were changed during the production life. He
> says the CZ1 was a later synth with a more friendly sys ex
> implementation. He sent me some modified drivers which I haven't tried
> yet. He suspects the problem is with the delay timing, and he has sent
> me some info on how to change the delay timing which I haven't tried
> yet. If I get it to work, I'll post the steps. You can download a demo
> of MidiQuest from their site.
>
> If anyone gets a librarian working for the 101 under windows please
post
> the steps taken.
>
> For Apple users, I believe Sound Diver works.
>
> Cheers, Karl May
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of steve_the_composer
> Sent: Thursday, 15 October 2009 12:20 PM
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor
>
>
>
>
> Took a quick look in the sysex manual; no checksum that I could see.
> (Did I missed it?)
>
> I used the equivalent of "debug" to mine the CZ-5000 seqeuncer memory
> dump format. Obviously it is not a very high level tool, but it really
> depends what someone wants to do. It was sufficient to change values,
> see the results, and map the dump and internal memory structure. It
even
> yielded options that could not be entered through the CZ interface.
>
> For example, it is possible to set the number of internal voices to
zero
> on a track-by-track basis and have the sequencer tracks play the note
> data out solely through the CZ-5000 midi port.
>
> If someone has the time and ability to write a fully developed CZ
patch
> editor, I'd take some time to test it.
>
> Back to the original question: what are you wanting to do?
>
> --Steve
>
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> , Lee
> Borrell <templarser@...> wrote:
> >
> > In theory- you can edit a CZ file with MIDI-ox but it is perhaps not
> the recommended route - I can't recall if CZ's operate a checksum -
but
> if they did it means calculating it manually - and even if they do not
-
> then editing individual bytes is possible - but it means referring to
> the byte map ( I have it online but the site seems to be down for some
> reason) - this is why Charles and myself have been trying to find a
way
> to do an editor.
> >
>
>
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