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Re: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor

2009-10-25 by charlie from PARRY

thanks!!!!

i forgot to mention there are always cd's on ebay of editors and sounds for
these classic synthesizers

charles



----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl H. May" <kmay@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor


> Hi Charles,
>
> I'll have a look at home tonight and get back to you tomorrow.
>
> Cheers, Karl
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of charlie from PARRY
> Sent: Monday, 26 October 2009 9:48 AM
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor
>
>
>
>
> hi carl , i was wondering if you have those drivers and would be kind
> enough
> to send to me for midi quest ,
> i use the atari version(of midi quest) ,
> and you guessed it , i can't get mine to work using midi quest ,i have
> drivers but am missing the templates,
>
> i am in the process of writing my own cz101 editor but its for use on
> the
> atari i mailily use for midi
>
> but i wrote it using the atari emulator which runs on windows..
>
> i know of couple good ones which work in the emulator that windows xp
> can
> power.
>
> any how look forward to hear back from you !
>
> charles
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karl H. May" <kmay@...
> <mailto:kmay%40brayecragg.com.au> >
> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have been trying without success for about 12 months to get an
> > editor/librarian working for my CZ101 in Windows XP or 3.1. I use 3.1
> > for midi sequencing on an old 486.
> >
> > I mainly want a librarian because I don't mind editing sounds on the
> CZ
> > itself.
> >
> > This is what I have found so far:
> >
> > 1. There is a freeware patch editor at ahermida@...
> <mailto:ahermida%40erols.com> . It is called
> > CZSysEditor. My recollection is that it will work under XP.
> >
> > 2. There is a freeware editor/librarian called Soundlib at
> > www.sonicspot.com. It looks very good, but I haven't been able to get
> it
> > to work under either XP or 3.1. If anyone gets it to work, please post
> > the steps they took to get it to work.
> >
> > 3. There is a file called cseo2install floating around. It is an
> > editor/librarian. I haven't tried it. Google it.
> >
> > 4.I have tried the sys ex librarian in the sequencer I use,
> Powertracks.
> > It will get The CZ to dump data to it, but only 7 bytes. This is an
> > incomplete dump.
> >
> > 5. Midi Ox may not work, because I believe it requires the synth to
> > initiate the dump. I believe there is no facility in the CZ to
> initiate
> > a dump.
> >
> > 6. I have tried MidiQuest versions 4,6, and 10, and none of them work
> > with my CZ.
> >
> > I have had dialogue with Michael Lambie at MidiQuest about it. He says
> > MQ seems to work with some CZ's but not others. He doesn't know why,
> but
> > wonders whether the specs were changed during the production life. He
> > says the CZ1 was a later synth with a more friendly sys ex
> > implementation. He sent me some modified drivers which I haven't tried
> > yet. He suspects the problem is with the delay timing, and he has sent
> > me some info on how to change the delay timing which I haven't tried
> > yet. If I get it to work, I'll post the steps. You can download a demo
> > of MidiQuest from their site.
> >
> > If anyone gets a librarian working for the 101 under windows please
> post
> > the steps taken.
> >
> > For Apple users, I believe Sound Diver works.
> >
> > Cheers, Karl May
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of steve_the_composer
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 October 2009 12:20 PM
> > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Took a quick look in the sysex manual; no checksum that I could see.
> > (Did I missed it?)
> >
> > I used the equivalent of "debug" to mine the CZ-5000 seqeuncer memory
> > dump format. Obviously it is not a very high level tool, but it really
> > depends what someone wants to do. It was sufficient to change values,
> > see the results, and map the dump and internal memory structure. It
> even
> > yielded options that could not be entered through the CZ interface.
> >
> > For example, it is possible to set the number of internal voices to
> zero
> > on a track-by-track basis and have the sequencer tracks play the note
> > data out solely through the CZ-5000 midi port.
> >
> > If someone has the time and ability to write a fully developed CZ
> patch
> > editor, I'd take some time to test it.
> >
> > Back to the original question: what are you wanting to do?
> >
> > --Steve
> >
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> , Lee
> > Borrell <templarser@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > In theory- you can edit a CZ file with MIDI-ox but it is perhaps not
> > the recommended route - I can't recall if CZ's operate a checksum -
> but
> > if they did it means calculating it manually - and even if they do not
> -
> > then editing individual bytes is possible - but it means referring to
> > the byte map ( I have it online but the site seems to be down for some
> > reason) - this is why Charles and myself have been trying to find a
> way
> > to do an editor.
> > >
> >
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