Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

I am still having trouble with TIME OUT - the setting "REMOTE" is set - but this does not seem to be alterable - that is it stays on REMOTE - is there ever a point where it does not say that?
 
I have tried sending the REMOTE CODE but not the OPEN code- and also - when dumping manually from the FZ "SAVE" (to MIDI) 16 bytes are sent - but I presume the FZ is waiting to be acknowledged from the PC- but I do not know what to send it - thus I presume is why it times out.
 
I was hoping there'd either be a direct dump from the FZ or a "dump request" command from the PC - as it is with the CZ - there still seems to be the need for handshaking??

--- On Fri, 23/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:


From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 19:22


  



lee you physically have to place (with your hands)
the fz to device"midi" and then move pointer to
" remote mode "on the fz

once this is set it wants a remote midi code
the ok midi then close midi codes

make sure you're program is reading the bytes as they come in after each
request or signal to the fz
or else you'll bung the fz up causing data error.

got mine dumping so far

beta day #1 accomplished communication

wait for day 2

charles

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping

Yes I think it is the flowchart page - sometimes ADOBE numbers the page
differently than the actual document as it includes the intro pages - so
they can be up to 10 pages adrift of the actual page number - it may well be
page 41 of the doc - yes it was a flowchart of handshaking - I know in
principle what they are talking about,as the CZ was supposed to do it - but
when I dump from the FZ to MIDI-ox it is preceded with 16bytes that are not
coded as SYSx (ie no F0) - and when I try Andreas's program - 16 bytes get
sent - and then there is a TIME OUT - so I presume the program is waiting
for an ACK from the FZ - which it never gets - there is reference to "REMOTE
MODE" which I noted it was in when the DUMP was being done - but I do not
know how it got into that mode.

--- On Thu, 22/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:

From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 22 July, 2010, 15:05

they even have a flow chart diagram for the handshaking ,

just enlarge your buffer to handle the dump

seems to work ok for me on the cz101 using a similar
call/answer handshaking.

try this to work
page 41 of this little gem
casio_data_structures.pdf

i don't know which page 30 you are refferring to

charles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping

The protocol on page 30 is correct I think - trouble is it details the
handshaking and "REMOTE" mode - but I have no idea what the Hex is for
this - I think Steve's doc shows all the hex - so it is a matter of working
thru it - when I tried a dump to MIDI ox it produces some bytes that do not
show up as SYSx - it's all in the dox - but it is more complex than standard
dumps,I think my brain may burst. :-)

--- On Wed, 21/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:

From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 13:16

no you and summa have been a great help , i have a day or two off work so i
will roll the system back and find whats involved.

my plan is to basically make the fz dump program , but for an atari computer
.

i guess you'd need a hard drive to store all the data on witht the atari ,
but i use the emulator on my pc
to work out ideals then transfer to atari

as for page thirty i would trust any thing some one has written unless you
try it for your self.

charles

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping

I came across that site - but didn't notice the doc- thanks for that. It's
page 30 I am having problems with - that details the protocol - since the
dox I have for the CZ have bypassed all the handshaking I am wondering if
the same can be done for the FZ.

--- On Wed, 21/7/10, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:

From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 1:56

It looks like people here have given you some excellent docs. In case you
want more about the FZ, you might try:
http://www.buchty.net/casio/index.html . He has a copy of the FZ programmers
reference there. I think it is less user friendly than the docs others have
posted here, but it is available if you want it; it might have some details
the other docs don't have.
Good luck to you.
Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "charles c" <charles.copp@...> wrote:
>
> hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and
recieving data via midi to the fz10m?
>
> i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else
i could talk to about this ?
>
> charles
>

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