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2010-07-19 by charles c
hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m? i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i could talk to about this ? charles
2010-07-19 by jammie
its easy you just need fzdump set the midi ports to your instruments and set load device from floppy to external midi not port and you can recieve and transmit its in the manual on how to do this
----- Original Message -----
From: charles c
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:27 AM
Subject: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m?
i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i could talk to about this ?
charles
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-07-19 by charlie midi gfa
well i want to know about the header because i am able to program,, and this would allow me to write my own program... i know i can use a program to catch the sysex and then moniter it during execution but , this is not an expert insight to our protocol.. i need accurate notes . thanks jammie charlie . ----- Original Message ----- From: "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping > its easy you just need fzdump set the midi ports to your instruments and set load device from floppy to external midi not port > > and you can recieve and transmit > > its in the manual on how to do this > ----- Original Message ----- > From: charles c > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:27 AM > Subject: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping > > > > hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m? > > i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i could talk to about this ? > > charles > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 - Release Date: 07/18/10 06:35:00
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2010-07-20 by jammie
you can download the full midi sysex spec of the fz10 i think i have it some where plus the full schematics
----- Original Message -----
From: charlie midi gfa
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
well i want to know about the header because i am able to program,, and this
would allow me to write my own program...
i know i can use a program to catch the sysex and then moniter it during
execution
but , this is not an expert insight to our protocol..
i need accurate notes .
thanks jammie
charlie
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jammie" <jammie.emma@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
> its easy you just need fzdump set the midi ports to your instruments and
set load device from floppy to external midi not port
>
> and you can recieve and transmit
>
> its in the manual on how to do this
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: charles c
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:27 AM
> Subject: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
>
>
>
> hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and
recieving data via midi to the fz10m?
>
> i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody
else i could talk to about this ?
>
> charles
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-07-20 by charlie midi gfa
i got the handshaking all figured out lee, i think , i got the cz handshaking done ,, just the same header i registered for my fz but larger! if you would only put down what your doing and program with me ON THE ATARI , all questions would be answered ,, well maYBE NOT! AT LEAST I'D HAVE ONE PROGRAMMING FRIEND.. THAnks lee charles
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping You may find the following useful - if you manage to figure out the handshaking -let me know! http://synthzone.com/midi/casio/fz1/fz.doc --- On Mon, 19/7/10, charles c <charles.copp@...> wrote: From: charles c <charles.copp@...> Subject: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 2:27 hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m? i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i could talk to about this ? charles [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
2010-07-20 by charlie midi gfa
NO I TRIED CONTACT ANDREAS AT IT BOUNCED A COUPLE DAYS AGO , PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU GET THRU BECAUSE THAT LINK IS UNVALID CHARLES CAPS ON CAPS OFF WHO CARES, READ AND ENJOY
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping Charles, I am just about to write to andreas.goransson3@... - he created the FXDUMP program - I have just tried the FZ_EX program which is for XP. http://hem.passagen.se/highpuls/index.htm I managed to get the sysx to the PC - but it will not go back again - which is a shame as I have downloaded some MOOG samples and all I can get is DATA ERROR. I am presuming that you are trying to work out the handshaking protocol for the FZ (I've just managed to get a FZ1 for �20 from ebay) - you might try Andreas - but I am writing to him anyway to see if I can get the idea of what the heck is going on. --- On Mon, 19/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote: From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 22:33 well i want to know about the header because i am able to program,, and this would allow me to write my own program... i know i can use a program to catch the sysex and then moniter it during execution but , this is not an expert insight to our protocol.. i need accurate notes . thanks jammie charlie . ----- Original Message ----- From: "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping > its easy you just need fzdump set the midi ports to your instruments and set load device from floppy to external midi not port > > and you can recieve and transmit > > its in the manual on how to do this > ----- Original Message ----- > From: charles c > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:27 AM > Subject: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping > > > > hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m? > > i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i could talk to about this ? > > charles > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 - Release Date: 07/18/10 06:35:00 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
2010-07-20 by Lee Borrell
Charles, I am just about to write to andreas.goransson3@... - he created the FXDUMP program - I have just tried the FZ_EX program which is for XP. http://hem.passagen.se/highpuls/index.htm I managed to get the sysx to the PC - but it will not go back again - which is a shame as I have downloaded some MOOG samples and all I can get is DATA ERROR. I am presuming that you are trying to work out the handshaking protocol for the FZ (I've just managed to get a FZ1 for £20 from ebay) - you might try Andreas - but I am writing to him anyway to see if I can get the idea of what the heck is going on. --- On Mon, 19/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:
From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 22:33
well i want to know about the header because i am able to program,, and this
would allow me to write my own program...
i know i can use a program to catch the sysex and then moniter it during
execution
but , this is not an expert insight to our protocol..
i need accurate notes .
thanks jammie
charlie
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jammie" <jammie.emma@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
> its easy you just need fzdump set the midi ports to your instruments and
set load device from floppy to external midi not port
>
> and you can recieve and transmit
>
> its in the manual on how to do this
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: charles c
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:27 AM
> Subject: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
>
>
>
> hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and
recieving data via midi to the fz10m?
>
> i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody
else i could talk to about this ?
>
> charles
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 - Release Date: 07/18/10
06:35:00
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-07-20 by Lee Borrell
You may find the following useful - if you manage to figure out the handshaking -let me know! http://synthzone.com/midi/casio/fz1/fz.doc --- On Mon, 19/7/10, charles c <charles.copp@...> wrote:
From: charles c <charles.copp@...>
Subject: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 2:27
hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m?
i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i could talk to about this ?
charles
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-07-20 by Lee Borrell
This maybe useful too: http://hem.passagen.se/highpuls/fz/fz_fx_syx.pdf LEE --- On Tue, 20/7/10, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
From: jammie <jammie.emma@...>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 20 July, 2010, 7:27
you can download the full midi sysex spec of the fz10 i think i have it some where plus the full schematics
----- Original Message -----
From: charlie midi gfa
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
well i want to know about the header because i am able to program,, and this
would allow me to write my own program...
i know i can use a program to catch the sysex and then moniter it during
execution
but , this is not an expert insight to our protocol..
i need accurate notes .
thanks jammie
charlie
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jammie" <jammie.emma@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
> its easy you just need fzdump set the midi ports to your instruments and
set load device from floppy to external midi not port
>
> and you can recieve and transmit
>
> its in the manual on how to do this
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: charles c
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:27 AM
> Subject: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
>
>
>
> hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and
recieving data via midi to the fz10m?
>
> i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody
else i could talk to about this ?
>
> charles
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
----
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 - Release Date: 07/18/10
06:35:00
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
----------------------------------------------------------
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3015 - Release Date: 07/19/10 06:36:00
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-07-21 by Summa
On 20 Jul 2010 at 15:31, charlie midi gfa wrote:
>
> NO I TRIED CONTACT ANDREAS AT IT BOUNCED A COUPLE DAYS AGO , PLEASE
> LET ME
> KNOW IF YOU GET THRU BECAUSE THAT LINK IS UNVALID
> CHARLES
> CAPS ON CAPS OFF WHO CARES, READ AND ENJOY
I care and this is your 2nd warning...
Thanx!
Summa
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http://www.summasounds.de/2010-07-21 by steve_the_composer
It looks like people here have given you some excellent docs. In case you want more about the FZ, you might try: http://www.buchty.net/casio/index.html . He has a copy of the FZ programmers reference there. I think it is less user friendly than the docs others have posted here, but it is available if you want it; it might have some details the other docs don't have. Good luck to you. Steve --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "charles c" <charles.copp@...> wrote:
> > hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m? > > i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i could talk to about this ? > > charles >
2010-07-21 by Lee Borrell
The Atari is suspended for now - and even the C64 I don't get near - too busy trying to even understand all the hardware PDF documents - I mailed Andreas - but seems his mail is out of date - so no help there. --- On Tue, 20/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:
From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 20 July, 2010, 23:15
i got the handshaking all figured out lee, i think , i got the cz
handshaking done ,, just the same header i registered for my fz but larger!
if you would only put down what your doing and program with me ON THE ATARI
, all questions would be answered ,, well maYBE NOT!
AT LEAST
I'D HAVE ONE PROGRAMMING FRIEND..
THAnks lee
charles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
You may find the following useful - if you manage to figure out the
handshaking -let me know!
http://synthzone.com/midi/casio/fz1/fz.doc
--- On Mon, 19/7/10, charles c <charles.copp@sympatico.ca> wrote:
From: charles c <charles.copp@...>
Subject: [CZsynth] fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 19 July, 2010, 2:27
hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and
recieving data via midi to the fz10m?
i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i
could talk to about this ?
charles
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Yahoo! Groups Links
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-07-21 by Lee Borrell
I came across that site - but didn't notice the doc- thanks for that. It's page 30 I am having problems with - that details the protocol - since the dox I have for the CZ have bypassed all the handshaking I am wondering if the same can be done for the FZ. --- On Wed, 21/7/10, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:
From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@prodigy.net>
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 1:56
It looks like people here have given you some excellent docs. In case you want more about the FZ, you might try: http://www.buchty.net/casio/index.html . He has a copy of the FZ programmers reference there. I think it is less user friendly than the docs others have posted here, but it is available if you want it; it might have some details the other docs don't have.
Good luck to you.
Steve
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "charles c" <charles.copp@...> wrote:
>
> hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m?
>
> i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i could talk to about this ?
>
> charles
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-07-21 by charlie midi gfa
no you and summa have been a great help , i have a day or two off work so i will roll the system back and find whats involved. my plan is to basically make the fz dump program , but for an atari computer . i guess you'd need a hard drive to store all the data on witht the atari , but i use the emulator on my pc to work out ideals then transfer to atari as for page thirty i would trust any thing some one has written unless you try it for your self. charles
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping I came across that site - but didn't notice the doc- thanks for that. It's page 30 I am having problems with - that details the protocol - since the dox I have for the CZ have bypassed all the handshaking I am wondering if the same can be done for the FZ. --- On Wed, 21/7/10, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote: From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 1:56 It looks like people here have given you some excellent docs. In case you want more about the FZ, you might try: http://www.buchty.net/casio/index.html . He has a copy of the FZ programmers reference there. I think it is less user friendly than the docs others have posted here, but it is available if you want it; it might have some details the other docs don't have. Good luck to you. Steve --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "charles c" <charles.copp@...> wrote: > > hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m? > > i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i could talk to about this ? > > charles > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
2010-07-21 by Summa
Hi Steve, their seems to be a problem with your mail address, I'm not able to answer your privat mail, got an "address failed" error... ...Summa On 21 Jul 2010 at 0:56, steve_the_composer wrote: > It looks like people here have given you some excellent docs. In > case you want more about the FZ, you might try: > http://www.buchty.net/casio/index.html . He has a copy of the FZ > programmers reference there. I think it is less user friendly than > the docs others have posted here, but it is available if you want > it; it might have some details the other docs don't have. > Good luck to you. > Steve > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "charles c" <charles.copp@...> > wrote: > > > > hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for > sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m? > > > > i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was > anybody else i could talk to about this ? > > > > charles > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ FS1R mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fs1r/ Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator FM-Synthesis mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fm- synthesis/ http://www.summasounds.de/
2010-07-22 by Lee Borrell
The protocol on page 30 is correct I think - trouble is it details the handshaking and "REMOTE" mode - but I have no idea what the Hex is for this - I think Steve's doc shows all the hex - so it is a matter of working thru it - when I tried a dump to MIDI ox it produces some bytes that do not show up as SYSx - it's all in the dox - but it is more complex than standard dumps,I think my brain may burst. :-) --- On Wed, 21/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:
From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 13:16
no you and summa have been a great help , i have a day or two off work so i
will roll the system back and find whats involved.
my plan is to basically make the fz dump program , but for an atari computer
.
i guess you'd need a hard drive to store all the data on witht the atari ,
but i use the emulator on my pc
to work out ideals then transfer to atari
as for page thirty i would trust any thing some one has written unless you
try it for your self.
charles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping
I came across that site - but didn't notice the doc- thanks for that. It's
page 30 I am having problems with - that details the protocol - since the
dox I have for the CZ have bypassed all the handshaking I am wondering if
the same can be done for the FZ.
--- On Wed, 21/7/10, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:
From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 1:56
It looks like people here have given you some excellent docs. In case you
want more about the FZ, you might try:
http://www.buchty.net/casio/index.html . He has a copy of the FZ programmers
reference there. I think it is less user friendly than the docs others have
posted here, but it is available if you want it; it might have some details
the other docs don't have.
Good luck to you.
Steve
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "charles c" <charles.copp@...> wrote:
>
> hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and
recieving data via midi to the fz10m?
>
> i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else
i could talk to about this ?
>
> charles
>
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Yahoo! Groups Links
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-07-22 by charlie midi gfa
they even have a flow chart diagram for the handshaking , just enlarge your buffer to handle the dump seems to work ok for me on the cz101 using a similar call/answer handshaking. try this to work page 41 of this little gem casio_data_structures.pdf i don't know which page 30 you are refferring to charles
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:43 AM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping The protocol on page 30 is correct I think - trouble is it details the handshaking and "REMOTE" mode - but I have no idea what the Hex is for this - I think Steve's doc shows all the hex - so it is a matter of working thru it - when I tried a dump to MIDI ox it produces some bytes that do not show up as SYSx - it's all in the dox - but it is more complex than standard dumps,I think my brain may burst. :-) --- On Wed, 21/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote: From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 13:16 no you and summa have been a great help , i have a day or two off work so i will roll the system back and find whats involved. my plan is to basically make the fz dump program , but for an atari computer . i guess you'd need a hard drive to store all the data on witht the atari , but i use the emulator on my pc to work out ideals then transfer to atari as for page thirty i would trust any thing some one has written unless you try it for your self. charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping I came across that site - but didn't notice the doc- thanks for that. It's page 30 I am having problems with - that details the protocol - since the dox I have for the CZ have bypassed all the handshaking I am wondering if the same can be done for the FZ. --- On Wed, 21/7/10, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote: From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 1:56 It looks like people here have given you some excellent docs. In case you want more about the FZ, you might try: http://www.buchty.net/casio/index.html . He has a copy of the FZ programmers reference there. I think it is less user friendly than the docs others have posted here, but it is available if you want it; it might have some details the other docs don't have. Good luck to you. Steve --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "charles c" <charles.copp@...> wrote: > > hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m? > > i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i could talk to about this ? > > charles > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
2010-07-23 by Lee Borrell
Yes I think it is the flowchart page - sometimes ADOBE numbers the page differently than the actual document as it includes the intro pages - so they can be up to 10 pages adrift of the actual page number - it may well be page 41 of the doc - yes it was a flowchart of handshaking - I know in principle what they are talking about,as the CZ was supposed to do it - but when I dump from the FZ to MIDI-ox it is preceded with 16bytes that are not coded as SYSx (ie no F0) - and when I try Andreas's program - 16 bytes get sent - and then there is a TIME OUT - so I presume the program is waiting for an ACK from the FZ - which it never gets - there is reference to "REMOTE MODE" which I noted it was in when the DUMP was being done - but I do not know how it got into that mode. --- On Thu, 22/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:
From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 22 July, 2010, 15:05
they even have a flow chart diagram for the handshaking ,
just enlarge your buffer to handle the dump
seems to work ok for me on the cz101 using a similar
call/answer handshaking.
try this to work
page 41 of this little gem
casio_data_structures.pdf
i don't know which page 30 you are refferring to
charles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping
The protocol on page 30 is correct I think - trouble is it details the
handshaking and "REMOTE" mode - but I have no idea what the Hex is for
this - I think Steve's doc shows all the hex - so it is a matter of working
thru it - when I tried a dump to MIDI ox it produces some bytes that do not
show up as SYSx - it's all in the dox - but it is more complex than standard
dumps,I think my brain may burst. :-)
--- On Wed, 21/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@sympatico.ca> wrote:
From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 13:16
no you and summa have been a great help , i have a day or two off work so i
will roll the system back and find whats involved.
my plan is to basically make the fz dump program , but for an atari computer
.
i guess you'd need a hard drive to store all the data on witht the atari ,
but i use the emulator on my pc
to work out ideals then transfer to atari
as for page thirty i would trust any thing some one has written unless you
try it for your self.
charles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping
I came across that site - but didn't notice the doc- thanks for that. It's
page 30 I am having problems with - that details the protocol - since the
dox I have for the CZ have bypassed all the handshaking I am wondering if
the same can be done for the FZ.
--- On Wed, 21/7/10, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:
From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 1:56
It looks like people here have given you some excellent docs. In case you
want more about the FZ, you might try:
http://www.buchty.net/casio/index.html . He has a copy of the FZ programmers
reference there. I think it is less user friendly than the docs others have
posted here, but it is available if you want it; it might have some details
the other docs don't have.
Good luck to you.
Steve
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "charles c" <charles.copp@...> wrote:
>
> hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and
recieving data via midi to the fz10m?
>
> i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else
i could talk to about this ?
>
> charles
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2010-07-23 by charlie midi gfa
lee you physically have to place (with your hands) the fz to device"midi" and then move pointer to " remote mode "on the fz once this is set it wants a remote midi code the ok midi then close midi codes make sure you're program is reading the bytes as they come in after each request or signal to the fz or else you'll bung the fz up causing data error. got mine dumping so far beta day #1 accomplished communication wait for day 2 charles
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping Yes I think it is the flowchart page - sometimes ADOBE numbers the page differently than the actual document as it includes the intro pages - so they can be up to 10 pages adrift of the actual page number - it may well be page 41 of the doc - yes it was a flowchart of handshaking - I know in principle what they are talking about,as the CZ was supposed to do it - but when I dump from the FZ to MIDI-ox it is preceded with 16bytes that are not coded as SYSx (ie no F0) - and when I try Andreas's program - 16 bytes get sent - and then there is a TIME OUT - so I presume the program is waiting for an ACK from the FZ - which it never gets - there is reference to "REMOTE MODE" which I noted it was in when the DUMP was being done - but I do not know how it got into that mode. --- On Thu, 22/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote: From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 22 July, 2010, 15:05 they even have a flow chart diagram for the handshaking , just enlarge your buffer to handle the dump seems to work ok for me on the cz101 using a similar call/answer handshaking. try this to work page 41 of this little gem casio_data_structures.pdf i don't know which page 30 you are refferring to charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:43 AM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping The protocol on page 30 is correct I think - trouble is it details the handshaking and "REMOTE" mode - but I have no idea what the Hex is for this - I think Steve's doc shows all the hex - so it is a matter of working thru it - when I tried a dump to MIDI ox it produces some bytes that do not show up as SYSx - it's all in the dox - but it is more complex than standard dumps,I think my brain may burst. :-) --- On Wed, 21/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote: From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 13:16 no you and summa have been a great help , i have a day or two off work so i will roll the system back and find whats involved. my plan is to basically make the fz dump program , but for an atari computer . i guess you'd need a hard drive to store all the data on witht the atari , but i use the emulator on my pc to work out ideals then transfer to atari as for page thirty i would trust any thing some one has written unless you try it for your self. charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping I came across that site - but didn't notice the doc- thanks for that. It's page 30 I am having problems with - that details the protocol - since the dox I have for the CZ have bypassed all the handshaking I am wondering if the same can be done for the FZ. --- On Wed, 21/7/10, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote: From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 1:56 It looks like people here have given you some excellent docs. In case you want more about the FZ, you might try: http://www.buchty.net/casio/index.html . He has a copy of the FZ programmers reference there. I think it is less user friendly than the docs others have posted here, but it is available if you want it; it might have some details the other docs don't have. Good luck to you. Steve --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "charles c" <charles.copp@...> wrote: > > hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and recieving data via midi to the fz10m? > > i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else i could talk to about this ? > > charles > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
2010-07-25 by charlie midi gfa
I am still having trouble with TIME OUT - the setting "REMOTE" is set - but this does not seem to be alterable - that is it stays on REMOTE - is there ever a point where it does not say that? ====when transfer occurs it says "executing" O right under remote no the "remote" always seems to be under my observations of the fz ==== I have tried sending the REMOTE CODE but not the OPEN code- and also - when dumping manually from the FZ "SAVE" (to MIDI) 16 bytes are sent - but I presume the FZ is waiting to be acknowledged from the PC- but I do not know what to send it - thus I presume is why it times out. ===it all can be done from the computer, right now i am only doing the computer side of things send or recive can be initiated from the computer so you don't need to use the fz after you set remote mode , and leave the cursor at the remote place(don't goaway from the remote mode ) =========== I was hoping there'd either be a direct dump from the FZ or a "dump request" command from the PC - as it is with the CZ - t here still seems to be the need for handshaking?? ====i think my last comment touched on this there are 4 modes load save merge verify there are 4 states full dump voice dump bank dump effect dump ================================ ==== i kinda clueless too because i send for an effect dump , it loops 16 times telling me its sending data i acknowledge the data , then near the end ...(.14 1/2 acknowledge,ok midi) it finally sends some data but like always get a different check sum within these 128 byte packets???? don't know for certain but got it sending and never error charles
2010-07-25 by Lee Borrell
I am still having trouble with TIME OUT - the setting "REMOTE" is set - but this does not seem to be alterable - that is it stays on REMOTE - is there ever a point where it does not say that? I have tried sending the REMOTE CODE but not the OPEN code- and also - when dumping manually from the FZ "SAVE" (to MIDI) 16 bytes are sent - but I presume the FZ is waiting to be acknowledged from the PC- but I do not know what to send it - thus I presume is why it times out. I was hoping there'd either be a direct dump from the FZ or a "dump request" command from the PC - as it is with the CZ - there still seems to be the need for handshaking?? --- On Fri, 23/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:
From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 19:22
lee you physically have to place (with your hands)
the fz to device"midi" and then move pointer to
" remote mode "on the fz
once this is set it wants a remote midi code
the ok midi then close midi codes
make sure you're program is reading the bytes as they come in after each
request or signal to the fz
or else you'll bung the fz up causing data error.
got mine dumping so far
beta day #1 accomplished communication
wait for day 2
charles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping
Yes I think it is the flowchart page - sometimes ADOBE numbers the page
differently than the actual document as it includes the intro pages - so
they can be up to 10 pages adrift of the actual page number - it may well be
page 41 of the doc - yes it was a flowchart of handshaking - I know in
principle what they are talking about,as the CZ was supposed to do it - but
when I dump from the FZ to MIDI-ox it is preceded with 16bytes that are not
coded as SYSx (ie no F0) - and when I try Andreas's program - 16 bytes get
sent - and then there is a TIME OUT - so I presume the program is waiting
for an ACK from the FZ - which it never gets - there is reference to "REMOTE
MODE" which I noted it was in when the DUMP was being done - but I do not
know how it got into that mode.
--- On Thu, 22/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:
From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 22 July, 2010, 15:05
they even have a flow chart diagram for the handshaking ,
just enlarge your buffer to handle the dump
seems to work ok for me on the cz101 using a similar
call/answer handshaking.
try this to work
page 41 of this little gem
casio_data_structures.pdf
i don't know which page 30 you are refferring to
charles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping
The protocol on page 30 is correct I think - trouble is it details the
handshaking and "REMOTE" mode - but I have no idea what the Hex is for
this - I think Steve's doc shows all the hex - so it is a matter of working
thru it - when I tried a dump to MIDI ox it produces some bytes that do not
show up as SYSx - it's all in the dox - but it is more complex than standard
dumps,I think my brain may burst. :-)
--- On Wed, 21/7/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:
From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 13:16
no you and summa have been a great help , i have a day or two off work so i
will roll the system back and find whats involved.
my plan is to basically make the fz dump program , but for an atari computer
.
i guess you'd need a hard drive to store all the data on witht the atari ,
but i use the emulator on my pc
to work out ideals then transfer to atari
as for page thirty i would trust any thing some one has written unless you
try it for your self.
charles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications
for sample/wave swapping
I came across that site - but didn't notice the doc- thanks for that. It's
page 30 I am having problems with - that details the protocol - since the
dox I have for the CZ have bypassed all the handshaking I am wondering if
the same can be done for the FZ.
--- On Wed, 21/7/10, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:
From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10m midi sysex header and data specifications for
sample/wave swapping
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 1:56
It looks like people here have given you some excellent docs. In case you
want more about the FZ, you might try:
http://www.buchty.net/casio/index.html . He has a copy of the FZ programmers
reference there. I think it is less user friendly than the docs others have
posted here, but it is available if you want it; it might have some details
the other docs don't have.
Good luck to you.
Steve
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "charles c" <charles.copp@...> wrote:
>
> hi group , i am wondering if there is any documentation for sending and
recieving data via midi to the fz10m?
>
> i know there is in the files sections , wondered if there was anybody else
i could talk to about this ?
>
> charles
>
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