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Problems with sending patches to computer

2010-07-24 by anpitkam

Hi,

I bought a Casio CZ-101. What a great synth! I really like the sound. However, unfortunately I cannot send the patches I've made to computer. I'm sure I have connected everything correctly. I'm using M-Audio Midisport USB/MIDI-interface. I've tried the free Soundlib program. When I try to send my patches to computer, the sending stops after a few patches and the Casio displays something like "MIDI FULL ERROR" and switches to some patch.

I'm now wondering if there is something wrong with my CZ-101 or if it could be that the Midisport interface is somehow incompatible with the Soundlib program or something. I searched the archives and there was something that Soundlib (or some other similar program) simply works with some Casio CZ's and with some it doesn't.

Is there any freeware program that would let me do bulk dumps of patches easily? 

Please help if you know anything about this - I would greatly appreciate it.

Antti

Re: [CZsynth] Problems with sending patches to computer

2010-07-25 by Lee Borrell

If your 101 is saying MIDI full - that tends to suggest it is receiving data - which tends to suggest you have both cables plugged into the 101 - if there is a SOFT midi thru on soundlib then the dump from the 101 will be sent directly back to the 101 and it will think a dump is incoming.
 
It is usually suggested to connect BOTH cables to the CZ for handshaking purposes - however I am using MIDI-ox (free online) and using the handshake work-around that is supplied on my own page:
 
http://templarseries.atspace.com/cz.html
 
under SYSmanual/SYSXinfo - using the info there - I have no trouble with CZ dumps - using MIDI ox - I cannot tell you what SOUNDlib might or might not do - but if you wish to try it- see what happens if you only have the outgoing cable connected to the PC when dumping from the CZ  - if it fails to handshake and dump - then you may require the info above and try MIDI-ox.
 
LEE

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Date: Saturday, 24 July, 2010, 16:26


  



Hi,

I bought a Casio CZ-101. What a great synth! I really like the sound. However, unfortunately I cannot send the patches I've made to computer. I'm sure I have connected everything correctly. I'm using M-Audio Midisport USB/MIDI-interface. I've tried the free Soundlib program. When I try to send my patches to computer, the sending stops after a few patches and the Casio displays something like "MIDI FULL ERROR" and switches to some patch.

I'm now wondering if there is something wrong with my CZ-101 or if it could be that the Midisport interface is somehow incompatible with the Soundlib program or something. I searched the archives and there was something that Soundlib (or some other similar program) simply works with some Casio CZ's and with some it doesn't.

Is there any freeware program that would let me do bulk dumps of patches easily? 

Please help if you know anything about this - I would greatly appreciate it.

Antti









      

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Re: [CZsynth] Problems with sending patches to computer

2010-07-25 by Lee Borrell

I've just found that the handshake workaround is not in the dox on the hyperlink:
 
The doc I have is an email sent from Ken Whitley to machines@hyperreal.org
 
It suggests the following
 
 
Send F0 44 00 00 70 10 70 31 F7
 
101 sends : F0 44 00 70 30 <data> F7
 
If the CZ is not on CH1 then both 7x's must be the same channel (ie x=ch).
 
I will put the whole doc online at the previous hyperlink - along with an explanation - note that BOTH cables must be connected - to send the dump request and then to recieve the dump - with MIDI ox this means setting up TWO instances of the program - one to dump SYSx and one to recieve a manual dump - the version of the program sending the DATA must have the DEVICE OUT set to MPU401 etc - but the device in should not be selected - the one picking up the data should be the other way around - that is - DEVICE IN should be MPU401 and out not selected.

--- On Sat, 24/7/10, anpitkam <anpitkam@...> wrote:
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From: anpitkam <anpitkam@...>
Subject: [CZsynth] Problems with sending patches to computer
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 24 July, 2010, 16:26


  



Hi,

I bought a Casio CZ-101. What a great synth! I really like the sound. However, unfortunately I cannot send the patches I've made to computer. I'm sure I have connected everything correctly. I'm using M-Audio Midisport USB/MIDI-interface. I've tried the free Soundlib program. When I try to send my patches to computer, the sending stops after a few patches and the Casio displays something like "MIDI FULL ERROR" and switches to some patch.

I'm now wondering if there is something wrong with my CZ-101 or if it could be that the Midisport interface is somehow incompatible with the Soundlib program or something. I searched the archives and there was something that Soundlib (or some other similar program) simply works with some Casio CZ's and with some it doesn't.

Is there any freeware program that would let me do bulk dumps of patches easily? 

Please help if you know anything about this - I would greatly appreciate it.

Antti









      

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Re: [CZsynth] Problems with sending patches to computer

2010-07-25 by charlie midi gfa

that # 70 should be or'd with the midi channel 0-f
you intend to send/recieve midi data on !!!!!!!



charles
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From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Problems with sending patches to computer


I've just found that the handshake workaround is not in the dox on the
hyperlink:

The doc I have is an email sent from Ken Whitley to machines@...

It suggests the following


Send F0 44 00 00 70 10 70 31 F7

101 sends : F0 44 00 70 30 <data> F7

If the CZ is not on CH1 then both 7x's must be the same channel (ie x=ch).

I will put the whole doc online at the previous hyperlink - along with an
explanation - note that BOTH cables must be connected - to send the dump
request and then to recieve the dump - with MIDI ox this means setting up
TWO instances of the program - one to dump SYSx and one to recieve a manual
dump - the version of the program sending the DATA must have the DEVICE OUT
set to MPU401 etc - but the device in should not be selected - the one
picking up the data should be the other way around - that is - DEVICE IN
should be MPU401 and out not selected.

--- On Sat, 24/7/10, anpitkam <anpitkam@...> wrote:


From: anpitkam <anpitkam@...>
Subject: [CZsynth] Problems with sending patches to computer
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 24 July, 2010, 16:26






Hi,

I bought a Casio CZ-101. What a great synth! I really like the sound.
However, unfortunately I cannot send the patches I've made to computer. I'm
sure I have connected everything correctly. I'm using M-Audio Midisport
USB/MIDI-interface. I've tried the free Soundlib program. When I try to send
my patches to computer, the sending stops after a few patches and the Casio
displays something like "MIDI FULL ERROR" and switches to some patch.

I'm now wondering if there is something wrong with my CZ-101 or if it could
be that the Midisport interface is somehow incompatible with the Soundlib
program or something. I searched the archives and there was something that
Soundlib (or some other similar program) simply works with some Casio CZ's
and with some it doesn't.

Is there any freeware program that would let me do bulk dumps of patches
easily?

Please help if you know anything about this - I would greatly appreciate it.

Antti











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Re: [CZsynth] Problems with sending patches to computer

2010-07-25 by Lee Borrell

The dox are now online at templarseries.atspace.com/cz.html
 
They are marked defeating CZ handshake 1 &2.

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Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Problems with sending patches to computer
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Date: Sunday, 25 July, 2010, 14:42


  



I've just found that the handshake workaround is not in the dox on the hyperlink:
 
The doc I have is an email sent from Ken Whitley to machines@hyperreal.org
 
It suggests the following
 
 
Send F0 44 00 00 70 10 70 31 F7
 
101 sends : F0 44 00 70 30 <data> F7
 
If the CZ is not on CH1 then both 7x's must be the same channel (ie x=ch).
 
I will put the whole doc online at the previous hyperlink - along with an explanation - note that BOTH cables must be connected - to send the dump request and then to recieve the dump - with MIDI ox this means setting up TWO instances of the program - one to dump SYSx and one to recieve a manual dump - the version of the program sending the DATA must have the DEVICE OUT set to MPU401 etc - but the device in should not be selected - the one picking up the data should be the other way around - that is - DEVICE IN should be MPU401 and out not selected.

--- On Sat, 24/7/10, anpitkam <anpitkam@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: anpitkam <anpitkam@...>
Subject: [CZsynth] Problems with sending patches to computer
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 24 July, 2010, 16:26

  

Hi,

I bought a Casio CZ-101. What a great synth! I really like the sound. However, unfortunately I cannot send the patches I've made to computer. I'm sure I have connected everything correctly. I'm using M-Audio Midisport USB/MIDI-interface. I've tried the free Soundlib program. When I try to send my patches to computer, the sending stops after a few patches and the Casio displays something like "MIDI FULL ERROR" and switches to some patch.

I'm now wondering if there is something wrong with my CZ-101 or if it could be that the Midisport interface is somehow incompatible with the Soundlib program or something. I searched the archives and there was something that Soundlib (or some other similar program) simply works with some Casio CZ's and with some it doesn't.

Is there any freeware program that would let me do bulk dumps of patches easily? 

Please help if you know anything about this - I would greatly appreciate it.

Antti

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