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Re: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx file to the Casio CZ line

2011-05-31 by Lee Borrell

I managed to dump a D5 sysx - but I have so many to access I have not investigated it too much - it seemed there was no handshaking rubbish with Roland. My D5 has a couple of broken facia switches so I tend not to mess with it as it is a pain to access the menus.

--- On Tue, 31/5/11, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:

From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...>
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx file to the Casio CZ line
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 31 May, 2011, 1:01















 
 



  


    
      
      
      yeah that method is good for solo signals

but simply put , we are not fast like machines so a f7/over byte will mark

the eox



i got one written for my language and platform( cz101 librarian atari midi )



but should be same "settings"  for midi ox ,, man that was fun .. i got a

roland device lately so been talking to it too!



charles



----- Original Message -----

From: "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...>

To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 5:37 PM

Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx file to

the Casio CZ line



FO 44 00 00 70 30 F7 is "acknowledge." The CZ is saying, "Ï got a sysex

message that was intended for me." It implies, "If you have more, send it

now."



I this info is available in the CAsio CZ Midi Guide which someone  scanned

and which has been available on the internet for years. It might even be in

the FIles section.



The CZ handshaking protocol is a bit funky to work with. When developing CZ

midi, Casio developers did a no-no. They thought the F7 was supposed to mark

the end of a series of system exclsive messages. Everyone else doing midi

put the F7 at the end of each and every sysex command.



If you take a look at the CZ-5000 sequencer dump handshaking sequence, you

should see sysex flying back and forth between an initial F0 and a final F7.



Anyone designing software for the CZ line has to take this into account.

Software with generic sysex functionality like midi-ox or Cakewalk can try

to fool the CZ by adding some extra "OK; send more" byte sequences which in

my experience with the CZ-5000 stay in the CZ's midi in buffer until needed.



At least this is how I remember it being when I would send requests for

dumps from cakewalk to the CZ. I hope others can confirm this. (Apologies if

my memory is not 100%).



Steve



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Karl H. May" <kmay@...> wrote:

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> Thanks Lee. When I ask the cz101 to dump it's memory it responds with

> the sysex string FO 44 00 00 70 30 F7. What do I do in response to that?

> Many thanks, Karl May

> ________________________________

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> From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf

> Of Lee Borrell

> Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2011 1:28 AM

> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx

> file to the Casio VZ1

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> My site appears to be back online:

> http://templarseries.atspace.com/cz.html

> The details are in CZinfo and manual and DEFEATING HANDSHAKING links -

> those details I have used with the 101 and 230s and they do work - it is

> just a matter of getting your head around it.As was said here - if there

> is a dump from keyboard protocol - use that - if not (as with the CZ101)

> then you have to prompt the keyboard from the MIDI in socket by sending

> a "Send SYSx" code - and wait for the reception from the midi out.With

> MIDI ox I use TWO instances of the program at once - first set up one

> version to ONLY receieve on from the OUT socket of the keyboard and set

> it up ready to get SYSX manually.

> Use the other version to ONLY transmit (in the devices dialogue) and

> send the prompt from this instance of the program,and the other instance

> will pick up the SYSx code from the 101. From there,dump it as a SYSx

> file to the PC and from then on you can send it back to the keyboard

> with no further messing about - it will accept the SYSx without any

> handshaking. Hope that helps.

>

> --- On Mon, 30/5/11, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...

> <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net> > wrote:

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> From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...

> <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net> >

> Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx file

> to the Casio VZ1

> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Monday, 30 May, 2011, 16:00

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> Your setup will be based on (1) your internal VZ settings and (2) your

> midi connections between the VZ and your PC. I believe that once you

> have those set up correctly, you just go into sysex mode in midi-ox and

> trigger the bulk dump from the VZ itself. I suppose you could trigger

> the dumps from midi-ox by inputting the correct sysex command, but (1)

> that's more work and (2) it would depend on your internal VZ settings.

>

> Oh. You asked about the cz-101. Silly me; I saw that the thread was

> about the VZ!!!

>

> Never Mind.

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> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ,

> "Karl H. May" <kmay@> wrote:

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> > Can someone please upload the midi ox settings to save and load cz101

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> > sounds. Thanks, Karl May

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> > ________________________________

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> > From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

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> > Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2011 11:30 PM

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> > To: CZsynth@...m <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>

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> > Subject: [CZsynth] Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx file to

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> > I have just uploaded a guide on how to transmit and receive syx file

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> > your VZ-1 using Midiox. These are my settings. It works great for me!

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> > The file is in the "VZ - DOCs" folder.

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> > If it helps just let me know.

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