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Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m

2012-10-20 by charlie midi gfa

jammi
 i think you are forgetiing about turbo synth , and soft synth

this was sound designers mate

 it too was a digidesign program,,

god bless rainer broadsen
and digidesign! i have for atari all mentioned

charles

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jammie" <jammie.emma@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m


>i have loads of 8bit waves for the prophet vs
>
> we are working on new pcm cards for the wavestation so in the near future 
> it will be possible to write new pcm data to the pcm card
>
> plus they are going to be 2-4mb switched in 512k banks
>
> get a dsm1 they are great same additive engine as the dss1 and it has 4 
> multitimbral so doing prophet vs sounds is easy
>
> but with samples so its more like a jd800/jd990 but with analog filters
>
> the dsm1 has 16 of the dss1 chips res is tied to ground but easy to cut a 
> trace add a 100ohm resister for current limiting and adding a pot  to a 5v 
> source this willgive good res but not self osc becuase you need 7v for 
> that
>
> i used on one of my dsm1 machines with a doepfer midi to cv controller you 
> get 16 midi cv outputs that can be set up to any midi cc control they are 
> 0-5 v cv,s
>
> the emax uses the same type of system but you have 32 partials but you 
> also get to do them on a table ppg style
>
> you choose various additive waveforms on this table then you set volume 
> envelopes for each cycle in the table and pitch envelopes and the you 
> interpolate from one single cycle to the other creating a spectral 
> variating waveform like as if you were scanning the ppg wavetables
>
> the emax then creates this as a multisample and then you loop it or what 
> ever to get good no clicking loops of this file you need to use the same 
> single cycle additive waveform
>
> for slot one and the end slot
>
> the digidesign designed a software program that copied this and it could 
> do it on a mac screen rather than use the tiny lcd
>
> it was called softsynth both for mac and atari
>
> then they did a better version called turbo synth both mac and atari
>
> i used to use it on the mirage as it did great wavetables like this and 
> made it easy for looping
>
> i create transwaves the same way for ensoniqs as they can sweep them like 
> the ppg
>
> i have done all the ppg
>
> the uwaveand wave which has 64 of them which also include the ppg but they 
> sound different becuase the uwave and xt use half cycle waves then they 
> compute the other half as a mirror image
>
> which is impossible to do with additive synthesis
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Jason Adkins
>  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:56 PM
>  Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>
>
>
>  Hi Jammie,
>
>  I have never used an Emax I think Francis Cote who post's on here has
>  an Emax or 2 so he'd be a good guy to talk to.
>  I'd love a DSS1 again but I havn't got the space now sadly (I used to
>  keep all my gear around a friends house at the time) those things are
>  f**king huge.
>  Can you do a similar trick with a wavestation/prophet VS?
>
>  J
>
>  On 20 Oct 2012, at 21:33, jammie wrote:
>
>  > and single cycle waves are the way to go with theses samplers the k3
>  > k5 k5000 ppg dss1 and the fz1 range all have additive sin synthesis
>  >
>  > but the neat trick on both the dss1 and the fz range is that you can
>  > link mix the additive waves to create a moving wavetable
>  >
>  > a bit like the emax spectral synth generation
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: jammie
>  > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>  > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:29 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > yes you can fit scsi its the card fitted to the fz20
>  >
>  > but you need a copy of the scsi floppy access software
>  >
>  > and charlie still needs to get a good working floppy drive
>  >
>  > the floppy emulator is cheaper than a replacement drive
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: Jason Adkins
>  > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>  > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:19 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>  >
>  > I think the FZ1/10m/20m is worth the effort the synth section sounds
>  > superb,my friend used to use that all the time,the only other synth/
>  > sampler I have used which had the a similar function was the Korg
>  > DSS-1 (just usiing a slider) although there are a few programs for
>  > the
>  > Atari which allow you to draw a waveform as does the Roland samplers
>  > and the Fairlight of course.
>  > I think a PPG and possibly the Kawai K5 could do additive drawing
>  > using a slider too.
>  > I know the FZ10m could be fitted with scsi because I saw one in a
>  > studio in Islington London and I asked the engineer if I could have a
>  > look around the back because he was loading sounds to it from a Jaz
>  > drive.
>  >
>  > J
>  >
>  > On 19 Oct 2012, at 00:18, charlie midi gfa wrote:
>  >
>  >> im sure the technicians will love me $$$ ,
>  >> and by now the prices of a
>  >> shugart to scsi adaptor has sky rocketed.....
>  >> so the raw image is it 1.68 Mb?
>  >> please go on jammie , do you use some of this technology personally?
>  >> i am interested adapting
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> charles
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> ----- Original Message -----
>  >> From: "Jason Adkins" <jason_ralf808@...>
>  >> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
>  >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:23 PM
>  >> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>> I don't agree,I think the FZ10m had a scsi option too.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> On 18 Oct 2012, at 19:43, jammie wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>>> its the floppy emulator image software that does a raw image it
>  >>>> cant
>  >>>> be read by anything except the fz1/fz10/fz20
>  >>>>
>  >>>> there is no other programs that can write the floppy image back to
>  >>>> the floppy becuase its a different speed
>  >>>>
>  >>>> only the fz20 had scsi and its useless with out the floppy as its a
>  >>>> floppy disk access program has to be loaded sop that the fz20 can
>  >>>> use the scsi
>  >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>  >>>> From: Jason Adkins
>  >>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>  >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:35 PM
>  >>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Isn't there a PC program that will image FZ1/10m/20m floppies?
>  >>>> Is your FZ10m fitted with SCSI?
>  >>>>
>  >>>> J
>  >>>>
>  >>>> On 17 Oct 2012, at 00:11, charlie midi gfa wrote:
>  >>>>
>  >>>>> so a little o.t.
>  >>>>> but
>  >>>>> anybody tell me what drive will work in a fz10m ,
>  >>>>> (cross reference the matsushita ju-255 )
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> i can't find suitable drive or a indentical one to repair the
>  >>>>> fz10m
>  >>>>>
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